YAGT: OMG I love guns

[irishScott]

My eyes - the goggles do nothing!!! That thing makes a Chiappa Rhino look elegant.

Really?

I'll admit it's function over form, but worse than a Rhino? Come on, at worst it's the Glock of pocket revolvers. 😛

 

[corwin]

Mine came with one of each. A 17 and a 19 round. Haven't found any extras though, but I haven't seriously looked in a couple months either.

Funny but the ones on Bud's show they come with either 15 or 17 round mags, none of them note 19...don't know that I care for that big honking bumper on the bottom of them, I'll have to get some of the 17's

 

[shortylickens]

Ugly, mostly compact and mostly striker fired guns...I HATE striker fired guns

Actually ruger has a variety of weapons and so does S&W.
In fact most rugers are hammer fired, not striker. Its just that the hammer isnt jutting outside like a big useless dick.

I guess if you NEED an external hammer go for Berettas.

 

[shortylickens]

Think I just found my new carry gun. Only thing turning my off from the LCR was its lack of external hammer, that has been fixed as of today.

The newly released Ruger LCRx:
http://www.gunnuts.net/2013/12/18/ruger-lcrx/

http://www.ruger.com/products/lcr/models.html

I just noticed they now have 357's, 22's and 22 magnums. I dont recall those being around originally, only the 38.

 

[HumblePie]

Funny but the ones on Bud's show they come with either 15 or 17 round mags, none of them note 19...don't know that I care for that big honking bumper on the bottom of them, I'll have to get some of the 17's

I think the 15 is for the T-100's not the T-120's.

I switched my grip out to the hogue fingre rubber olvermold grip for the full CZ75b frame. Works just fine and just feels great to shoot. As you noted a nice smooth trigger on the damn thing and very light in SA mode.

I'll tell you it shoots point of aim exactly 10m out like a frikking laser.

 

[corwin]

I think the 15 is for the T-100's not the T-120's.

I switched my grip out to the hogue fingre rubber olvermold grip for the full CZ75b frame. Works just fine and just feels great to shoot. As you noted a nice smooth trigger on the damn thing and very light in SA mode.

I'll tell you it shoots point of aim exactly 10m out like a frikking laser.

HAHA...

Probably a misprint like them picturing the T120 for the T100...now I'll be looking for different grips, never cared for the finger grooves myself but I'm sure there's planty of other options out there

 

[phucheneh]

I really, really like the Hogue grips on the full-size. I think they're worth a try for the money. Probably $20-25 if you can find them at a gun shop...a whopping 15 bucks online. Every other option that I know of is a lot more money.

VZ's are supposed to be excellent but are about $75. Similar pricing for the aluminum and grip tape 'competition' style.

Lots of wood grips out there starting at about 50-60 for a known brand/maker, up to well over 100 for custom-made extra-spiffy stuff. And maybe like $40 for some eBay ones...they are legit hand-made stuff, IIRC out of Thailand. Unsurprisingly, I've heard reports ranging from 'these are awesome' to 'good but needed tweaking' to 'total crap.' I'm sure it's an issue of quality control...not every Thai person is a master grip artisan, I'm guessing. 😀

On a secondary note: I'll give ya ten bucks or something for the stockers. I understand if you want to keep them as extras. I was just cursed with the shoddy bulky plastic grips, and have decided I'd rather carve my own than pay $75+ for what I actually want. Right now I'm rocking said stockers, HEAVILY slimmed and hand-stippled with a soldering iron. :awe: I'm kinda proud of them, but I think one's gonna crack eventually.

 

[BladeVenom]

Flower power, http://www.flowershell.com/ Shotgun shells filled with flower seeds. Put some bang into your gardening.

 

[phucheneh]

That is kind of genius. In the 'making money' sense of the word...their product is easy/cheap to make, and people will probably pay plenty for it, if only just for shits and giggles.

On a functional level....LOL. Assuming the goal is to get intact seed driven into the ground without digging, you're not exactly going to cover a lot of area. A bag of seed and a gardening spade will be a lot cheaper and not much slower.

But again...the whole 'humorously absurd' angle... 'HEY! I want me some fucking carnations growing over there, dammit! *BLAM*

...goddamn right!' For some reason, this bit from ATHF immediately comes to mind (prolly NSFW).

Also, I realized that I meant to post pics of my awesome* custom grips! Since there are a couple of us chatting about them there Turkey guns, anyway. For reference, here is what I purchased from Academy for $350:

Now, with approximately zero dollars invested, it has become:

If anyone has any questions about disassembly, assembly, minor tweaks, or whatever on these firearms, feel free to ask. I'm no 'expert,' but once you dick with something for a good while, you can't help but learn some things that would've been GREAT to know earlier on in your experimentations.

I highly endorse painting the dots on the rear sites if you've got the plain white stuff. A good sight picture puts the dots in a row, and if you're like me, three white dots can kind of confuse your eyes in some situations. Very easy to dab some red paint on the rears, and they then become much less distracting but still easy to see.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[phucheneh]

Maybe $0 is a mild exaggeration. I generally had any supplies I needed on hand, but they're not 'free'. No parts or labor were purchased, though.

The whole story, kinda: Loved the gun when I got it, but immediately noticed one thing that made it look 'not right.' They coated the barrel/chamber. Stripped that and polished it up. Then I was looking into grips, but didn't feel like actually ordering anything, so I just started sanding the stock ones to get rid of the extra width and take the pointy diamond texture down a notch. Eventually, I got them down to the bare minimum needed to still fit right, and today, I did the 'stippling' with a hot soldering iron to mimic the typical 'grip tape' texture used on a lot of polymer frames.

The flat areas were largely stripped and polished by hand. I was originally going to do the whole frame, but there is a LOT of abrasion needed to get down to the shiny metal, and I could not find a process (air and electric rotory tools, blasting, chemical stripping) that would make it easier on me without causing collateral damage. So I settled on just doing the 'easy' areas and had to recoat the rest of the frame. This is how I found that all enamels are not created equal...VHT 'caliper paint' with a good bake time: bulletproof. But I didn't like the color. So I baked on a generic black enamel...and it's shit. Gonna redo that. Maybe give in and let a pro Duracoat it at some point.

This has very much just been my 'toy' gun, to keep me from fucking with anything more expensive. Yet it remains the most reliable and accurate handgun I've ever owned. Aside from a Colt OP with a 6" barrel.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[corwin]

I really, really like the Hogue grips on the full-size. I think they're worth a try for the money. Probably $20-25 if you can find them at a gun shop...a whopping 15 bucks online. Every other option that I know of is a lot more money.

VZ's are supposed to be excellent but are about $75. Similar pricing for the aluminum and grip tape 'competition' style.

Lots of wood grips out there starting at about 50-60 for a known brand/maker, up to well over 100 for custom-made extra-spiffy stuff. And maybe like $40 for some eBay ones...they are legit hand-made stuff, IIRC out of Thailand. Unsurprisingly, I've heard reports ranging from 'these are awesome' to 'good but needed tweaking' to 'total crap.' I'm sure it's an issue of quality control...not every Thai person is a master grip artisan, I'm guessing. 😀

On a secondary note: I'll give ya ten bucks or something for the stockers. I understand if you want to keep them as extras. I was just cursed with the shoddy bulky plastic grips, and have decided I'd rather carve my own than pay $75+ for what I actually want. Right now I'm rocking said stockers, HEAVILY slimmed and hand-stippled with a soldering iron. :awe: I'm kinda proud of them, but I think one's gonna crack eventually.

Hmm...I've honestly never replaced the grips on any of my guns before but now I'm considering it, not that these rubber ones feel bad, they actually feel kinda nice, but just starting to look and there's some colored ones on fleabay that might just match the desert tan cerakote for $35...just don't know if I'll like them any better than the rubber ones on there now....If I do replace them though I'd be happy to send the rubber ones on to you, I'm not one to switch things around all the time and don't really see a need for extras

 

[gorobei]

Really?

I'll admit it's function over form, but worse than a Rhino? Come on, at worst it's the Glock of pocket revolvers. 😛

rhino looks good to me.

 

[NutBucket]

I'd love to buy a Rhino but its too expensive IMHO. I'd rather drop the money for a Model 29.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Is there any benefit to the Rhino design other than looking futuristic and . . . interesting? It would seem to me to be heavier and no better functionally than any normal DA revolver.

EDIT: Interesting - I had no idea it fired from the bottom of the cylinder to reduce recoil. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/10/chris-dumm/gun-review-chiappa-firearms-rhino/ I think it probably fits into the "interesting but not for me" category, but I'm glad there is method to its (aesthetic) madness.

 

[corwin]

Is there any benefit to the Rhino design other than looking futuristic and . . . interesting? It would seem to me to be heavier and no better functionally than any normal DA revolver.

Heavier would be a good thing for a tiny .357mag revolver😉

 

[NutBucket]

The design of the Rhino puts the center-line of the barrel much lower...almost right in line with the wrist. That way there is much less muzzle flip when fired.

 

[gorobei]

Is there any benefit to the Rhino design other than looking futuristic and . . . interesting? It would seem to me to be heavier and no better functionally than any normal DA revolver.

lower bore axis means no muzzle rise, in the majority of video reviews the people indicate that the recoil pushes straight back and feels subjectively much milder than a traditional revolver.

also the frame is ar16 type aluminum, so relatively lighter.

the barrel is an insert type threaded into the frame and capped with a threaded tensioning nut/sleeve. double tensioned barrels were reported to have accuracy benefits on the old dan wesson interchangable revolvers(something about rigidity and vibration nodes).

 

[Bird222]

Anybody shot a 10mm? How was the recoil? How does it compare to a 9mm?

 

[HumblePie]

I want one of the larger rhino's for a revolver, but I ain't shelling out $1000 for a revolver any time soon. Just not worth that much. The fact that it fires from the bottom cylinder and not the top is what makes it a nice idea that actually works. They are charging what they are because they have the patent on that idea for now. So no one else can do a bottom cylinder firing revolver.

The rhino 40D and 50D are the size I want for the gun. Maybe the 60D. The 70D just looks over balanced, but who knows. The little 10D and 20D look fugly to me.

For reference, here would be the one I wouldn't mind getting.

http://www.chiappafirearms.com/product/2443

 

[phucheneh]

Cowboy Bebop (or some random appropriate anime; I don't watch that terrible shit) called, it wants its gun design back.

Anybody shot a 10mm? How was the recoil? How does it compare to a 9mm?

Well, are you aware of the origins of the cartridge? .40S&W is a weaker version of 10mm. .40 [needlessly] kicks a hell of a lot more than 9mm. 10mm has significantly more energy than .40. Or .45. Closest analog is probably .357 (10mm still being the punchier of the two).

I wouldn't recommend it for anything but ha-ha's at the range.

 

[gorobei]

Cowboy Bebop (or some random appropriate anime; I don't watch that terrible shit) called, it wants its gun design back.

bebop featured a jericho 941, you know that gun your canik is based on.

 

[phucheneh]

bebop featured a jericho 941, you know that gun your canik is based on.

See part in parentheses.

I could've said 'the blonde transvestite from Final Fantasy called; he wants his sword back.' Whatever expresses that that Chippabortion looks like something a Japanese preteen would doodle. What an awful thing that is.

 

[corwin]

See part in parentheses.

I could've said 'the blonde transvestite from Final Fantasy called; he wants his sword back.' Whatever expresses that that Chippabortion looks like something a Japanese preteen would doodle. What an awful thing that is.

Trigun would be a better comparison...