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bigredguy

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Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Tomato
So how old are the two of you?

me 21 her 20

Damn. You two are really young. When did you get engaged?

back in october so like 8-9 months ago

Another nosy question: Have you two had much experience with other people before getting engaged?


She had been very few relationships and i have been in very few that lasted a while. Which i know is stupid for us to get engaged so young, but we have known each other since like junior high. We been friends for a really really long time.
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: nietsni3
maybe she (of the OP) was trying to make him come visit her.

i already was planning on visiting her (not thinking so now) so i don't know why this tactic would work.
 

txxxx

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Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Tomato
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Tomato
So how old are the two of you?

me 21 her 20

Damn. You two are really young. When did you get engaged?

back in october so like 8-9 months ago

Another nosy question: Have you two had much experience with other people before getting engaged?


She had been very few relationships and i have been in very few that lasted a while. Which i know is stupid for us to get engaged so young, but we have known each other since like junior high. We been friends for a really really long time.

I think she's just not sure of the relationship - kinda not suprising given the lack of past partners she has to comapre to. Hence insecure reactions when drunk.
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: lnguyen
damn... i'm sure it'll be hard.. but damn... not marriage material :(

Probably true, but i have to wonder if it really wasn't anything more then a ploy to get me to promise not to drink if she didn't. While that might be grasping for straws, i am not going to make an serious move until we can talk it out, or atleast try to.
 

PingSpike

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I think I speak for everyone when I say:

Kill her and then yourself. :D

Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: lnguyen
damn... i'm sure it'll be hard.. but damn... not marriage material :(

Probably true, but i have to wonder if it really wasn't anything more then a ploy to get me to promise not to drink if she didn't. While that might be grasping for straws, i am not going to make an serious move until we can talk it out, or atleast try to.

I can understand that train of thought...but if thats the really the case then you have a whole other problem with her on your hands. Any woman who would threaten something as serious as cheating to try and manipulate you has some serious issues and isn't relationship material either. Thats almost as bad as an unfaithful woman.
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
I think I speak for everyone when I say:

Kill her and then yourself. :D

Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: lnguyen
damn... i'm sure it'll be hard.. but damn... not marriage material :(

Probably true, but i have to wonder if it really wasn't anything more then a ploy to get me to promise not to drink if she didn't. While that might be grasping for straws, i am not going to make an serious move until we can talk it out, or atleast try to.

I can understand that train of thought...but if thats the really the case then you have a whole other problem with her on your hands. Any woman who would threaten something as serious as cheating to try and manipulate you has some serious issues and isn't relationship material either. Thats almost as bad as an unfaithful woman.

I know, but it has been an issue in our relationship and she is very passionate about it because her father is an alcoholic and she sees him drinking himself to death. That in no means makes it ok to pull this crap, but... i dunno...i guess i see that as an out for this bullsh!t and i am just hoping.
 

alkemyst

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Based on your discussion I believe she is 'asking' to explore her options. The absolute only time to say 'i could have done something but didn't" is to invoke a response from the other the other person.

Usually it's the beginning of the end, but also can be a new beginning. My money would go on stating 'why don't we see what other people are like', if sex gets brought up reply 'whatever happens happens, I am not looking for sex...just to meet new people.'

It's pretty obvious sex will happen, but it's one of those things you both have to be able to deal with. No questions on what happened later. She or he will say the sex was terrible, we didn't do it often, they were ugly, not fun, etc...
 

StageLeft

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Tough Love: This is easy. Your fiancee is a ranging whore who deserves nothing but the curb. Of course, if you're like most guys, you'll take it like a bitch and think that there is something worth salvaging with this trampish rubbish who is your fiancee.

I don't know you, so maybe you will do the right thing, and I don't know her - maybe she's on new meds and they're not working well - but based upon your first post this girl is a ho. It's plainly evident.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: bigredguy
Judging by the responses here i am guessing everyone is also recommending not making plans to go see her in 2 months when she is done with school.
Uh YEAH you could say that!
The only problem is her saying she won't drink that much again was only supported by budgetary constraints. So if she had money or someone giving her drinks then she would drink.
Exactly. If she had the money right now my cousin in England would be giving her a pearl neckless as you sit at home on ATOT.

I would recommend getting drunk yourself, calling her up, and saying some things you WON'T regret. The only tragedy here is that you're not more pissed than you should be. I hope you don't do what a lot of guys would do and try to carry on a relationship with a dime store hooker like your fiancee is. Anyway good luck!
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Tough Love: This is easy. Your fiancee is a ranging whore who deserves nothing but the curb. Of course, if you're like most guys, you'll take it like a bitch and think that there is something worth salvaging with this trampish rubbish who is your fiancee.

I don't know you, so maybe you will do the right thing, and I don't know her - maybe she's on new meds and they're not working well - but based upon your first post this girl is a ho. It's plainly evident.

Well in my defense when she asked what happens if she did get drunk again. My response " See you next life" If she cheats on me that's it, once a cheater always a cheater. There is no forgiveness, no working it out.
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Judging by the responses here i am guessing everyone is also recommending not making plans to go see her in 2 months when she is done with school.
Uh YEAH you could say that!
The only problem is her saying she won't drink that much again was only supported by budgetary constraints. So if she had money or someone giving her drinks then she would drink.
Exactly. If she had the money right now my cousin in England would be giving her a pearl neckless as you sit at home on ATOT.

I would recommend getting drunk yourself, calling her up, and saying some things you WON'T regret. The only tragedy here is that you're not more pissed than you should be. I hope you don't do what a lot of guys would do and try to carry on a relationship with a dime store hooker like your fiancee is. Anyway good luck!

I would rather get drunk and do things i wouldn't regret and then call her.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Tough Love: This is easy. Your fiancee is a ranging whore who deserves nothing but the curb. Of course, if you're like most guys, you'll take it like a bitch and think that there is something worth salvaging with this trampish rubbish who is your fiancee.

I don't know you, so maybe you will do the right thing, and I don't know her - maybe she's on new meds and they're not working well - but based upon your first post this girl is a ho. It's plainly evident.

Well in my defense when she asked what happens if she did get drunk again. My response " See you next life" If she cheats on me that's it, once a cheater always a cheater. There is no forgiveness, no working it out.
All that means is "When you cheat on that dude in England and you feel guilty about it the next morning, remember not to tell me, because I'll dump you." :(
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: bigredguy
So my fiancee is going to cambridge for 2 months as part of a summer program. I got a call from her on the fourth talking about doing something with some dude. She was really trashed and i couldn't understand her. So she call me again on sunday, the fifth, and explains that she was so drunk that its possible she would have done something but didn't. She then went on to say that if she got that drunk again that she was most likely to go do something with the first person who hit on her. My response was don't drink like that again, she said that wasn't an option. But not to worry because she didn't have the budget to drink like that again. So her reason for not cheating on me is money? WTF.

Cliff notes: Fiancee in UK gets really drunk doesn't cheat but says next time she most likely will. But not to worry because drinks are too expensive to drink like that again.

I was planning on going to visit her at the beginning of september for like 2 weeks, but now i am not sure. I don't want to buy a plane ticket and take time off from work and get there and find out she got really drunk again.

What would you do? How would you feel? Any advice?
ditch the skank
 

bigredguy

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: bigredguy
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Tough Love: This is easy. Your fiancee is a ranging whore who deserves nothing but the curb. Of course, if you're like most guys, you'll take it like a bitch and think that there is something worth salvaging with this trampish rubbish who is your fiancee.

I don't know you, so maybe you will do the right thing, and I don't know her - maybe she's on new meds and they're not working well - but based upon your first post this girl is a ho. It's plainly evident.

Well in my defense when she asked what happens if she did get drunk again. My response " See you next life" If she cheats on me that's it, once a cheater always a cheater. There is no forgiveness, no working it out.
All that means is "When you cheat on that dude in England and you feel guilty about it the next morning, remember not to tell me, because I'll dump you." :(

True, but i believe that we have enough history to tell me. I may of course be very wrong, after all i did ask her to marry me in the first place. That and she will almost certainly call me next time she is drunk (if anything out of habit) and if so that pretty much means she did or is about to cheat and its over. Like i said i am just clinging to hope that we can work it out. I guess only time will tell.
 

flexy

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What would you do? How would you feel? Any advice?

she says she might very well cheat on you...

no....how long would it take you to realize...ehrm...knock on your head...bang it on the table......etc..etc......

read that again..and think again ..... and you need advice ??

Edit:

Tell her you might cheat on her too. This would make the whole thing..hmm...a bit spicier :)

Edit2:

*Really* cheat on her :) [since she obviously doesnt give a f*** and that would be what she'd do too
 

Bonesdad

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Originally posted by: bigredguy
So my fiancee is going to cambridge for 2 months as part of a summer program. I got a call from her on the fourth talking about doing something with some dude. She was really trashed and i couldn't understand her. So she call me again on sunday, the fifth, and explains that she was so drunk that its possible she would have done something but didn't. She then went on to say that if she got that drunk again that she was most likely to go do something with the first person who hit on her. My response was don't drink like that again, she said that wasn't an option. But not to worry because she didn't have the budget to drink like that again. So her reason for not cheating on me is money? WTF.

Cliff notes: Fiancee in UK gets really drunk doesn't cheat but says next time she most likely will. But not to worry because drinks are too expensive to drink like that again.

I was planning on going to visit her at the beginning of september for like 2 weeks, but now i am not sure. I don't want to buy a plane ticket and take time off from work and get there and find out she got really drunk again.

What would you do? How would you feel? Any advice?



Make her the EX fiance....maybe you can hit it with her when she gets engaged to the next guy...
 
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yeah i have been in situations where things have gone probably too far on my end or by my girl when drunk, but if anything we felt horrid about it and it never happened again...to say it was def. going to happen is riduckulus
 

bigredguy

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Isn't it possible that she only said it our of anger to something and never really meant any of it and that she isn't going to cheat and i might just be throwing away the greatest thing in my life because of what might happen?
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: bigredguy
Isn't it possible that she only said it our of anger to something and never really meant any of it and that she isn't going to cheat and i might just be throwing away the greatest thing in my life because of what might happen?
Possible, but why would you want to marry somebody as stupid as that?
Like i said i am just clinging to hope that we can work it out.
Oh damn it. I knew it. She's not marriage material. Stay with her and get your rocks off a few more times maybe, then dump her like that guy in England did after he had his way with her. Tough times call for tough measures. I'd like to think that most guys would have the self-respect to dump a bitch if she pulls that line as their GF, but as their fiancee? Bloody hell!

Everyone here tells you to drop her, but like a sucker you're actually thinking there is something to salvage from this tramp-wreck!