YACT Which would you rather have?

[thirdeye]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
oooo thats a tough call, i love both cars... i heard from my brother that the rx8 didnt shift as smoothly as some other cars, so i'd probably go with the GT (plus there's nothin like a nice big v8!)

Well you heard wrong about that, when my transmission wasn't broken it was one of the smoothest gear boxes I've ever experienced. Only thing like it is the S2k's gearbox.

 

[sandman018]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
RX8 will do 0-60mph in about 7 seconds. The '05 Mustang GT will do 0-60mph in about 5 seconds. There is no fvcking way an RX8 would dust a Mustang GT.

while I am do doubt a RX8 can dust a Mustang, but can a GT do it under 5???? i drove an previous gen Mustang GT (auto no less) and it doesn't feel that fast.

RX8

0-60mph: 6 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.5 @ 95.6mph

Mustang GT Convertible

0-60mph: 5.2 seconds (coupe does it in 5.1 seconds)
1/4 miles: 13.8 @ 100.9mph

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Mustang GT could stomp the RX8 assuming equal drivers.

who cares, my evo will dust them both


edit: voted for the stang though, gotta love the looks

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: sandman018

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
RX8 will do 0-60mph in about 7 seconds. The '05 Mustang GT will do 0-60mph in about 5 seconds. There is no fvcking way an RX8 would dust a Mustang GT.

while I am do doubt a RX8 can dust a Mustang, but can a GT do it under 5???? i drove an previous gen Mustang GT (auto no less) and it doesn't feel that fast.

RX8

0-60mph: 6 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.5 @ 95.6mph

Mustang GT Convertible

0-60mph: 5.2 seconds (coupe does it in 5.1 seconds)
1/4 miles: 13.8 @ 100.9mph

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Mustang GT could stomp the RX8 assuming equal drivers.

who cares, my evo will dust them both


edit: voted for the stang though, gotta love the looks

So would my STi! Can't touch the Evo or STi with either of those cars, especially when it comes to handling and braking.

I wouldn't even waste my time or gasoline racing an RX8 with the STi.

 

[sandman018]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

So would my STi! Can't touch the Evo or STi with either of those cars, especially when it comes to handling and braking.

I wouldn't even waste my time or gasoline racing an RX8 with the STi.

heh, especially not with the gas prices lately:roll:

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I have a question then. Assuming the Mustang GT goes for about 27k right now, how much do you think I can get a used Mustang GT for in say 3-6 months? (After the 06 mustang comes out?)

No one has any idea?

 

[AMDZen]

I'd say the mustang, but not if your going to buy a convertable. Convertable's make sports cars into pieces of sh!t, unless they are designed from the ground up as a convertable. After 3 years, it will rattle like crazy, and will handle like sh!t too.

If you have to have a convertable, buy a car thats designed to be a convertable. S2000 is my favorite. Otherwise I'd buy the mustang non convert

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus


So would my STi! Can't touch the Evo or STi with either of those cars, especially when it comes to handling and braking.

I wouldn't even waste my time or gasoline racing an RX8 with the STi.

for a car that is supposed to be "fast" the RX-8 certainly is not.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: acemcmac
Current mustang owner votes RX8 hands down.

3) the 05 Mustang is needlessly heavy

nah, not really, its 3400lbs, not too bad for a pony car. the Charger and GTO is 4000 and 3600 respectively. the new BMW 330 is 3400 too.

the WS6 weighed 3200 LBS, had a 6 speed and put out OVER 350HP stock. The new mustang is a disgrace compared to the last F-bodies.

Try 3500lbs.

Also try 320 HP, it was 350 lb/ft

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I have a question then. Assuming the Mustang GT goes for about 27k right now, how much do you think I can get a used Mustang GT for in say 3-6 months? (After the 06 mustang comes out?)

No one has any idea?

It's difficult to say. Ford is still marking up new Mustang GTs and GT convertibles in this part of the country. I haven't seen any used '05s on car lots and those who've advertised them are asking new or near new prices for them.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I have a question then. Assuming the Mustang GT goes for about 27k right now, how much do you think I can get a used Mustang GT for in say 3-6 months? (After the 06 mustang comes out?)

No one has any idea?

mid to lower twenties. It'll take a while for GT's to come down, especially with all of the hype around them. You can take that to the bank.

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: acemcmac
Current mustang owner votes RX8 hands down.

3) the 05 Mustang is needlessly heavy

nah, not really, its 3400lbs, not too bad for a pony car. the Charger and GTO is 4000 and 3600 respectively. the new BMW 330 is 3400 too.

the WS6 weighed 3200 LBS, had a 6 speed and put out OVER 350HP stock. The new mustang is a disgrace compared to the last F-bodies.

Try 3500lbs.

Also try 320 HP, it was 350 lb/ft

Try underrated so it wouldnt sabatoge corvette sales since it was 50% the price OTD

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I have a question then. Assuming the Mustang GT goes for about 27k right now, how much do you think I can get a used Mustang GT for in say 3-6 months? (After the 06 mustang comes out?)

No one has any idea?

mid to lower twenties. It'll take a while for GT's to come down, especially with all of the hype around them. You can take that to the bank.

So I'd be better off just buying new if I could afford it, correct?

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
RX8 will do 0-60mph in about 7 seconds. The '05 Mustang GT will do 0-60mph in about 5 seconds. There is no fvcking way an RX8 would dust a Mustang GT.

while I am do doubt a RX8 can dust a Mustang, but can a GT do it under 5???? i drove an previous gen Mustang GT (auto no less) and it doesn't feel that fast.

RX8

0-60mph: 6 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.5 @ 95.6mph

Mustang GT Convertible

0-60mph: 5.2 seconds (coupe does it in 5.1 seconds)
1/4 miles: 13.8 @ 100.9mph

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Mustang GT could stomp the RX8 assuming equal drivers.

Is all of your driving in 1/4 mile increments? I'm not disputing that the mustang is faster, but if it has to slow down more for corners.... well... did you ever see the TG.. ariel atom vs hiabusa?

good cars are made in the corners, not in the quarters

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: acemcmac

Originally posted by: Cuda1447

Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I have a question then. Assuming the Mustang GT goes for about 27k right now, how much do you think I can get a used Mustang GT for in say 3-6 months? (After the 06 mustang comes out?)

No one has any idea?

mid to lower twenties. It'll take a while for GT's to come down, especially with all of the hype around them. You can take that to the bank.

So I'd be better off just buying new if I could afford it, correct?

I can't advse that anyone buy a Mustang. I've had too may problems with Ford service, not honoring TSB issues, lying to me, crapy interior quality, poorly thought out design (if the car can corner, give me some FVCKING bolsters to hold me while I'm cornering) and PISS POOR automatic transmissions. Mabye you'd have good luck with a manual... the engines are definitley reliable enough, but with everything all new in 05, I still think it's too soon to tell.

oh, not to mention that talking to a Ford shop about their car's electronics bears as much fruit as asking dell technical support about the bridges that need to be connected to unlock your 865 to 875p :roll:

 

[Quixfire]

I would choose the Mustang not because I'm a Ford fan boy but because I prefer the styling of the car to the RX-8. Now if you are basing your choice on quality I would assume the Mazda might be the better choice but I have seen the warranty numbers on either car to make an educated choice.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
Is all of your driving in 1/4 mile increments? I'm not disputing that the mustang is faster, but if it has to slow down more for corners.... well... did you ever see the TG.. ariel atom vs hiabusa?

good cars are made in the corners, not in the quarters

Fact is most driving is stop and go. But the new Mustang GT has the best brakes of any stock Mustang and it has a better chassis which has much improved handing. Try driving one if you don't believe me. Is it as nimble as an RX8? Probably not but the power more than makes up for its weight disadvantage. I guess if you were going to autocross the car the RX8 would be a better choice. Otherwise, the Mustang still wins.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I can't advse that anyone buy a Mustang. I've had too may problems with Ford service, not honoring TSB issues, lying to me, crapy interior quality, poorly thought out design (if the car can corner, give me some FVCKING bolsters to hold me while I'm cornering) and PISS POOR automatic transmissions. Mabye you'd have good luck with a manual... the engines are definitley reliable enough, but with everything all new in 05, I still think it's too soon to tell.

oh, not to mention that talking to a Ford shop about their car's electronics bears as much fruit as asking dell technical support about the bridges that need to be connected to unlock your 865 to 875p :roll:

I've owned 2 Mustang GTs. I agree with you about the seats, the seats in the new Mustang are horribly underbolstered. The auto trannys are supposed to be leaps and bounds better than the previous generation auto transmissions (which are notoriously bad). Both my Mustangs were 5 spds though and they were bulletproof as were the engines.

I never had a problem with Ford service on the rare occassions I took my cars there though. Maybe I had a good one. I usually took it to Autosport Performance in Escondido though. They specialize in Mustangs and they really know what they're doing.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Quixfire
I would choose the Mustang not because I'm a Ford fan boy but because I prefer the styling of the car to the RX-8. Now if you are basing your choice on quality I would assume the Mazda might be the better choice but I have seen the warranty numbers on either car to make an educated choice.

well technically a ford fanboy could go both ways on this..
Mazda does have HEAVY ties to Ford...

 

[Quixfire]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Quixfire
I would choose the Mustang not because I'm a Ford fan boy but because I prefer the styling of the car to the RX-8. Now if you are basing your choice on quality I would assume the Mazda might be the better choice but I have seen the warranty numbers on either car to make an educated choice.

well technically a ford fanboy could go both ways on this..
Mazda does have HEAVY ties to Ford...

True enough but I would still take the Mustang over the RX-8 because of style.

Reliability in a car doesn't make the wife hot.

 

[stan394]

05 Mustang GT, hands down

 

[eLiu]

i like the look of the mustang more than that of the mazda...i'd get the mustang

 

[ShowdOWN]

my pick would be for the rx8.

reason: first hand knowledge of an unreliable car. im not saying that they are all bad, but my brother in law has a Mustang GT deluxe. it had to be in the shop twice already since the beginning of the year. his transmission was making all sorts of weird noises and then one day his car wouldnt start up, so he had to have it towed to the dealership. i think that is enough of a reason for me not to buy a ford.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: HumblePie
I duno. I've been dusting stock 05 GT's in my stock RX8 so far. I've dusted a stock 03 Mach 1 as well with no problem.

Will an RX8 dust a mustang if it isn't driven by a retard? Yep. Just don't let others know this or they might get pony envy.

The RX-8 runs about a 14.8 @95 mph.

The Mustang runs about a 13.9 @103 mph.

There is no way that a RX-8 is going to beat the Mustang if the drivers are anywhere near the same. The trap speed and ET are much different.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Also try 320 HP, it was 350 lb/ft

The LS1 F-bodys had underrated HP figures from the factory. GM said they put out from 305-320 hp, but when people dyno'd them they were putting out over 300 hp to the wheels. A guy near me had a stock WS6 that put out 309 rwhp. Their actual power output is closer to 350-360 hp.

Also, if you look at their trap speed and the car's weight and run it through a HP calculator, it would confirm the actual HP figure.

 

[MasterAndCommander]

'stang, but I"m biased off course

Really both are fine cars - I had considered both, and a 350z, but I got the dealio on the pony and I'm addicted to the "throw-you-back-to-your-seat" feeling when you gun it. Don't think you could get that feeling in the RX w/o boost...but if that's not important to you, then RX is great too.

Here's a good review of all 3:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=104196