YACT: Holy Hell in a handbasket. Update: Compression check done. Results; Dismal. Update: Engine is alive.

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: BUTCH1If it has hydraulic lifters don't freak out when you first get it started if runs like crap, it takes a bit for the pressure to build up.

But all that tickin' is a mighty fine soundtrack

That was nothing compared to the sound it made when the #4 intake valve seat fell into
#4 cylinder, while it was running of course! Car had to be towed home, rebuilt head put
on and #4 piston had to be changed, it got the crap beat out of it before I got a chance to
shut her down..

 

[doggyfromplanetwoof]

Lol! Holy sh!t man. lol.

 

[exdeath]

This is why computers and knock sensors are a good thing

Rings and ring lands look ok? Would be a shame to bolt it all up and still have compression problems. (edit: nm, saw the comment on the cylinder walls still being clean and crosshatched)

You want a economy Toyota engine that is built like a tank and will last forever and a day?

5S-FE

Not a performance engine, but made of iron and the crank in that thing can hold up a sky scraper :laugh: 145 ft/lbs should pull that Tercel quite nicely!

I had the oil pump sprocket in my 95 Camry round out on the keyed hole on the sprocket and spin in place and off axis until it slipped the timing belt enough to stop it from starting again. (think it was my fault, I had replaced all the front seals a week before and probably didn't tighten that one enough).

Never even saw any drop in oil pressure or had any problems at all. Got a new sprocket and it's good as new. Revs smooth and pulls hard (for 130 HP anyway) all the way to 6200 even with 160k miles on it with factory plugs, cap, injectors, etc. :heart: Toyota

I've seen other peoples cars with that engine where the oil dip stick would be bone dry and the engine was still running fine...

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: exdeath
This is why computers and knock sensors are a good thing

Rings and ring lands look ok? Would be a shame to bolt it all up and still have compression problems. (edit: nm, saw the comment on the cylinder walls still being clean and crosshatched)

You want a economy Toyota engine that is built like a tank and will last forever and a day?

5S-FE

Not a performance engine, but made of iron and the crank in that thing can hold up a sky scraper :laugh: 145 ft/lbs should pull that Tercel quite nicely!

I had the oil pump sprocket in my 95 Camry round out on the keyed hole on the sprocket and spin in place and off axis until it slipped the timing belt enough to stop it from starting again. (think it was my fault, I had replaced all the front seals a week before and probably didn't tighten that one enough).

Never even saw any drop in oil pressure or had any problems at all. Got a new sprocket and it's good as new. Revs smooth and pulls hard (for 130 HP anyway) all the way to 6200 even with 160k miles on it with factory plugs, cap, injectors, etc. :heart: Toyota

I've seen other peoples cars with that engine where the oil dip stick would be bone dry and the engine was still running fine...

Might be a good idea to change out those plugs even if it's running fine, the longer you wait the harder it will be to remove them.
Here is a good site about plugs w/pics. scroll to
bottom and see tip#2.

 

[Regs]

I thought I was having a bad day. Thanks Eli!

If you're ever in need of a hydro plane give me a call.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: exdeath
This is why computers and knock sensors are a good thing

Rings and ring lands look ok? Would be a shame to bolt it all up and still have compression problems. (edit: nm, saw the comment on the cylinder walls still being clean and crosshatched)

You want a economy Toyota engine that is built like a tank and will last forever and a day?

5S-FE

Not a performance engine, but made of iron and the crank in that thing can hold up a sky scraper :laugh: 145 ft/lbs should pull that Tercel quite nicely!

I had the oil pump sprocket in my 95 Camry round out on the keyed hole on the sprocket and spin in place and off axis until it slipped the timing belt enough to stop it from starting again. (think it was my fault, I had replaced all the front seals a week before and probably didn't tighten that one enough).

Never even saw any drop in oil pressure or had any problems at all. Got a new sprocket and it's good as new. Revs smooth and pulls hard (for 130 HP anyway) all the way to 6200 even with 160k miles on it with factory plugs, cap, injectors, etc. :heart: Toyota

I've seen other peoples cars with that engine where the oil dip stick would be bone dry and the engine was still running fine...

Toyota has many engines that are complete tanks, to the point of stupidity. But that's what makes them a Toyota!

The bottom end in most Toyota engines is so overbuilt that it is insane. My humble 3E 1.5L can take up to 10PSI of boost on stock internals - and it isn't known for being one of Toyota's engineering marvels.

:thumbsup:

 

[Eli]

Well, I got the remanufactured head on.

pic of head

It started right up and seems to run great. I let it warm up and took it for a quick spin. Letting it cool off now, then I'm going to look at the plugs and check the compression just for reference.

I need to take care of the lean condition. I'm pretty sure the main jet is lean, so I'm going to richen the idle mixture up and try and stay off the gas until I can get a jet kit.

I sure do hope it ends up being reliable. I'm driving 150 miles a day for work now... That's pretty scary.

 

[Eli]

Compression check is in:

Cylinder #1: 160PSI
Cylinder #2: 160PSI
Cylinder #3: 160PSI
Cylinder #4: 165PSI

wewt.

Plug porcelain is still white though. Damnit. I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to drive it lean.

I took it for a few runs, both WOT and never going past 2/3rds.. and yeah, still lean.

I can get it very rich while idling, but it doesn't appear that the idle jet affects anything past... idle. Even cruising in 4th at 35mph and my plugs were still white. Damn.

I'm going to check and double check for intake manifold leaks, but this sucks.

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: Eli
Compression check is in:

Cylinder #1: 160PSI
Cylinder #2: 160PSI
Cylinder #3: 160PSI
Cylinder #4: 165PSI

wewt.

Plug porcelain is still white though. Damnit. I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to drive it lean.

Hook up the EGR valve and see if it helps. Yea, I know the EGR feeds crap back into the
motor but it's designed to run with it hooked up..

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: Eli
Compression check is in:

Cylinder #1: 160PSI
Cylinder #2: 160PSI
Cylinder #3: 160PSI
Cylinder #4: 165PSI

wewt.

Plug porcelain is still white though. Damnit. I'm not sure what to do. I don't want to drive it lean.

Hook up the EGR valve and see if it helps. Yea, I know the EGR feeds crap back into the
motor but it's designed to run with it hooked up..

Easier said than done. :Q

Let me see if I can go find all the pieces.. LOL.

 

[iamwiz82]

Weak fuel pump? How is the fuel filter?

 

[nweaver]

you might need different jets for your altitude...call Webber and see if they know/will swap some jets for you.

Oh, and yeah, the idle screw doesn't adjust much above idle...but you gave me a good chuckle.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: nweaver
you might need different jets for your altitude...call Webber and see if they know/will swap some jets for you.

Oh, and yeah, the idle screw doesn't adjust much above idle...but you gave me a good chuckle.

I'm at Sea level.

I half-ass hooked the EGR back up. I think it's pretty much recirculating all the time, but as long as that keeps me from burning sh!t up, I'll call it good until I can get some new jets.

As soon as the engine cools off, I'll check the plugs.

It's dieseling pretty bad... even with the idle mixture richened up. Hmm.

 

[Eli]

Checked the plugs again. They definitely look much better, although they're still a tad white... but have some nice tan deposits on them now.

The EGR seems to be the ticket, at least until I can get some new jets.

Oh, and you all have ADD. Nobody ever replies, but they look.

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: Eli
Oh, and you all have ADD. Nobody ever replies, but they look.

cue, "ya need more blinker fluid." or, "you're not double clutching when you should be." or, "sounds like vapor lock."

on a more serious note, is it the fuel line itself?

honestly you are on a whole different level than what is usually talked about here.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: amish

Originally posted by: Eli
Oh, and you all have ADD. Nobody ever replies, but they look.

cue, "ya need more blinker fluid." or, "you're not double clutching when you should be." or, "sounds like vapor lock."

on a more serious note, is it the fuel line itself?

honestly you are on a whole different level than what is usually talked about here.

Doubt it, fuel filter is pretty new. I have a fuel pressure regulator dialed in to about 2.5PSI, just to ease stress on the carburetor.

2.5PSI is recommended for "Off Road" applications, or 3.0PSI otherwise.

I guess I could set it to 3.0PSI, but I don't think that will affect A/F ratio... unless by running a lower pressure, the float bowl isn't filling all the way up.

 

[CrackRabbit]

Just a thought, is the new carb a wider barrel or have a much higher flow than the old one? Maybe you need some type of restrictor or something.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
Just a thought, is the new carb a wider barrel or have a much higher flow than the old one? Maybe you need some type of restrictor or something.

It is, but that can be dealt with with jet adjustments.

The stock carburetor is a single barrel, 34mm.. or maybe 36mm.

The Weber is a double barrel, one 32mm one 36mm. The thing is, though, that this is supposed to be a bolt on kit. It shouldn't be lean out of the box... but that appears to be the case.

 

[JulesMaximus]

How about pics of this monster Corolla?

 

[nakedfrog]

Have you gone back to stock plugs?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Have you gone back to stock plugs?

Yes, forgot to mention that.. The plugs are stock now, lol...

 

[NuroMancer]

I've been reading cause its interesting, but you know way more then I do about mechanics it appears, so I couldn't really contribute

 

[nakedfrog]

Have you checked to see if Monster Cable© offers plug wires for your vehicle?

 

[nakedfrog]

Um... I assume you already made sure the jet is completely free of debris?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Um... I assume you already made sure the jet is completely free of debris?

There better not be any debris in there, the carb has like 1,000 miles on it.. lol.

Yea, it's been lean since I put it on.

I can't find any intake manifold leaks, so it definitely appears to be the carb.