Question x86 and ARM architectures comparison thread.

[mikegg]

AMD killed every merchant ARM Si vendor to date, and another head on the trophy rack would be good fun for mr. Norrod.

AMD already lost to ARM for the biggest cloud company in the world back in mid 2020.

 

[adroc_thurston]

AMD already lost to ARM for the biggest cloud company in the world back in mid 2020.

That's not merchant Si.
This is thirdworldism for hyperscalers (bad).
Which ARM itself will be ending 2027-onwards.

 

[poke01]

Oh no it was a thing.
Apple also tried dGPUs.

Must have been well hidden. You think the prototypes will ever be seen in public like AirPower eventually came be known.

 

[mikegg]

That's not merchant Si.
This is thirdworldism for hyperscalers (bad).
Which ARM itself will be ending 2027-onwards.

What?

 

[adroc_thurston]

Must have been well hidden

Never left the validation bench.

You think the prototypes will ever be seen in public like AirPower eventually came be known.

AirPower had an actual pre-prod attempts.
Real-real Airpower prototypes were far more dingy.

What?

ARM will become a merchant Si vendor because that's the only way to make money in this business.
IP licensing sucks. It's why pretty much all smaller licensing players (both CPU and graphics) died out over the past 10 years.

Neoverse was just a free crack sample for hyperscalers. Soon, they'll have to pay Actual Real Money for their server Si.

 

[mikegg]

ARM will become a merchant Si vendor because that's the only way to make money in this business.
Neoverse was just a free crack sample for hyperscalers.

Even if they do, which I doubt, it doesn't change that ARM was more popular on AWS than AMD in 2020 already.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Even if they do, which I doubt

it's in QC vs ARM discovery lmao.

it doesn't change that ARM was more popular on AWS than AMD in 2020 already.

Free crack is popular.
Crack you have to pay for is ???
Well you know.

 

[OneEng2]

That's cope, Apple tried to make 4T setups work and failed horribly.
That's why Mac Pro (yes it's a thing. yes it's a real market) is orphaned.

I think it is common for people to believe that if Company A is doing it, it is EASY for company B to do it too.

To your point, obviously, this is not true.

DC - see my post on first page. ARM is already 50%+ of all hyperscaler deployments. Much higher than 50% on AWS actually. So no, it's not getting decimated.

Lets be clear, they aren't doing ARM because it is better, they are doing it because it is cheap. They also have the resources to put code CTM to enhance performance in a hardware specific way (like a game console can).

This has nothing to do with architecture and everything to do with economies of scale in a massively large company. This is pure vertical integration in action. "I'm big enough to make my own computer, processor, and OS, so why buy it from someone?".

 

[igor_kavinski]

"I'm big enough to make my own computer, processor, and OS, so why buy it from someone?".

This is what M$ is dreaming about too. Their QC partnership plan was actually to put hardware out there and get their new OS in the hands of consumers. Once the wrinkles have been ironed out, they can release their own CPU and get closer to being Apple 2.0 and having a partner is just to make sure their employees can learn (or steal, depending on how you see it) the secrets to controlling all aspects of the hardware platform.

I think this also explains QC's Linux enablement efforts because they would be stupid to fully trust M$. The whole industry knows how M$ burned Sega and Nokia.