WTF, how much meat do Americans eat?

[lxskllr]

@lxskllr health effects from eating meat, and incoming meat shortage bullshit are 2 different things. The USDA is trying to soften the impact of the drought, citing all sorts of stuff.

They pulled some ideas from Johns Hopkins and ran with it, along with global warming, women in poverty, evil meat industry representatives, overpopulation, and destroying the environment.

I think both things are true but for different reasons. In terms of the drought buy meat while its still cheap(The opposite of what they say), and in terms of health we probably eat too much meat. It shouldn't be used as justification to convince people to eat less meat before the drought hits as that is rather disingenuous by my standards.

I can't find the article with a quick look, unless you're talking about that 313pg pdf. I'm not up to reading all that. I have my own views of meat consumption, and honestly am not interested in changing, or being an activist one way or the other.

Speaking in general terms, the government shouldn't be bending truth to further goals. If some of the claims are speculative, they should be listed as such, and sources should be cited supporting their position. If it's especially controversial, links supporting the most popular alternate view would be nice also.

As stated, I didn't read their exact presentation, but it makes sense to me to cut down eating meat while it's still cheap. That gives people time to adapt, and it's less of a shock when you have to cut down from necessity. Gorging on meat for a year, and then cutting way back due to cost leaves people feeling deprived, angry, and unknowledgeable on how to handle it. If they've already started cutting back while it's cheap, the shock will be greatly reduced, and they'll realize it isn't the end of the world. They've had time to prepare, and have seen first hand meat isn't required for every meal. Maybe they'll just say "Fuck it. That was easy. I think I'll change it to 'Meat Monday', and only eat meat once a week.". Alternately, they may realize that a huge slab of animal isn't required for a meal, and will take would would have been consumed in one day, and stretch it out over a few days.

Point is, it's better to be proactive, than reactive. That applies to everything, and not just food. People, and Americans in particular need to start thinking beyond the next quarter. We fuck ourselves over and over in three month increments, and to have a better life, that needs to stop.

 

[CPA]

I find it funny too that some people would freak out. I's just one day lol. If I had to do it I easily could. I like meat as much as the next person but I'm also able to not eat it if I have to for some reason.

I find it funny that so many people care about how much meat we eat.

 

[HeXen]

Smoking can make low grade meat muuuuuuuuch better. Ever wonder how BBQ got started by the blacks in the south?

it helps, sure, but is no substitute. well maybe for some, i however do not like cheap meats and smoking it only makes it digestible at best. Their just junk, if i were homeless or starving, sure i'd choke it down, but if i'm gonna actually purchase it, i'm very picky and may spend well over 10 minutes picking something out.i also don't like pork. homo meat if you ask me but thats just my opinion.

this is my bible
http://meat.tamu.edu/beefgrading.html

 

[surfsatwerk]

it helps, sure, but is no substitute. well maybe for some, i however do not like cheap meats and smoking it only makes it digestible at best. Their just junk, if i were homeless or starving, sure i'd choke it down, but if i'm gonna actually purchase it, i'm very picky and may spend well over 10 minutes picking something out.i also don't like pork. homo meat if you ask me but thats just my opinion.

this is my bible
http://meat.tamu.edu/beefgrading.html

False

 

[LumbergTech]

I eat dairy and eggs. I'd have a hard time going vegan. My favorite foods are liberal vegetarian, but if you removed dairy; especially cheese, I'd get tired of it quick. I like Tex-Mex, and Indian. Those are both conducive to removing meat, and still tasting good.

You can make a lot of tasty vegan stuff, but its a royal pain in the ass to keep it enjoyable over the long term. It can be done, but most people dont have the patience to put the extra time in to cook that much.

 

[SagaLore]

You can make a lot of tasty vegan stuff, but its a royal pain in the ass to keep it enjoyable over the long term. It can be done, but most people dont have the patience to put the extra time in to cook that much.

Disagree. You apparently have not had the variety that Indian and Mediterranean foods provide. 😛

 

[disappoint]

and beef and pork has this shit


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ractopamine

Looks like somebody didn't read their own link.

Ractopamine has been shown to be absorbed, distributed and eliminated rapidly in pigs, cattle, laboratory animals and primates.[citation needed] It is excreted mainly via urine and feces in the original form or its metabolites.

 

[sdifox]

Looks like somebody didn't read their own link.

used propely it does exit the animal completely, problem is they are given this stuff close to slaughter date, leaving dangerous quantities in the meat.

It has not been approved as safe for human consumption, thus it should not be in the food we consume.

 

[HeXen]

False

prove it

 

[heymrdj]

Sitting at IHOP eating the super breakfast sampler with add on meat and pancakes.
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[Zenmervolt]

Electronic futures :/

They're scraping for historical references of people using futures contracts, which is true, but their use wasn't actually widespread in the market until Enron. For all purposes the way we use them today was 100% started by Enron.

Bull. Shit.

Futures were used as hedging instruments for large portfolios well before Enron, you just don't hear about it because in those cases the portfolios were properly managed. While Enron certainly provides an example of the misuse of futures contracts in an unbalanced portfolio, Enron's use of futures was relatively small and the company's failure was a result of the web of "shell" sub-entities they created to funnel losses away from the main corporate entity.

As for futures trading not being "widespread in the market" before Enron, that's so incredibly ignorant that I'm not really sure where to start in on it. I mentioned the CBOT in my previous post for a reason. Because it has been very large and very active for a long time. If you're honestly intending to imply that the CBOT wasn't doing much trading until after Enron, you're delusional.

As far as your reference to "electronic futures" goes, I'm really quite unsure what you're talking about. Technically the term "electronic futures" would refer to futures contracts on electronics (e.g. an agreement to buy or sell X number of radios for $Y on date Z). But I don't think that's what you meant. If you intended to mean "electronically-traded futures" (e.g. buying and selling futures with computer-initiated trades rather than traditional open-outcry trading in the pits), then the distinction is irrelevant. The trades themselves (and the underlying contracts) are identical whether initiated on computers or in the pits.

ZV

 

[Ken g6]

I eat tofu

D😀😀:

tempeh

Never tried this.

beans

I happen to really like navy bean soup...with ham. 😀

veggie patties / crumbles / etc

Never tried these much either.

There was one meatless lunch/dinner meal I ate when I went to school at Boulder: something called a Flatiron burger. It had guacamole and almonds, among other things I don't remember, on an English muffin. You should get more avocado in your diet.

 

[surfsatwerk]

prove it

You proved it by posting.

 

[HeXen]

lol, kids are funny

 

[disappoint]

I've recently discovered Felafel. Well I always knew about it just never ate it much. What I mean is I've recently become addicted to it.

 

[Poulsonator]

There was one meatless lunch/dinner meal I ate when I went to school at Boulder: something called a Flatiron burger. It had guacamole and almonds, among other things I don't remember, on an English muffin. You should get more avocado in your diet.

Love, love, love avocados. Fortunately, I love just about all fruits and vegetables, so it wasn't a problem giving up meat.

 

[lxskllr]

I've recently discovered Felafel. Well I always knew about it just never ate it much. What I mean is I've recently become addicted to it.

They're the shit. Parking lot gourmet. It doesn't get much better :^)

 

[Tim]

I eat a lot sometimes.

 

[Gintaras]

LOL Fail. Ever heard of mercury in fish? How do you think the joker went cuckoo for cocoa puffs?

Too much mercury in your brains...
In Japan more than 30,000 people are 100 or more years old.
What do you think, most japanese do eat?

MERCURY - it's not bad for them, it's bad FOR YOU....