WTF, how much meat do Americans eat?

[OverVolt]

High protein intake reduces lifespan =/

A protein restricted diet can increase lifespan. It should be common sense these days.

It has nothing to do with the incoming meat shortage. They can't afford to feed the current flock, so they are killing them off, right? So what happens a couple months from now? Prices are going to be insane for meat. They're trying to mitigate it.

 

[nerp]

I cook like Michael Samuelson, so I eat exactly the right amount of everything all the time.

 

[techs]

I cook like Michael Samuelson, so I eat exactly the right amount of everything all the time.

Obscure reference is obscure.

 

[pelov]

High protein intake reduces lifespan =/

A protein restricted diet can increase lifespan. It should be common sense these days.

That isn't necessarily true. Although a high meat intake has been shown to lower lifespan, there have been some good studies showing increased protein consumption to actually have potential health benefits as well. It seems somewhat paradoxical, but it's sensible if you consider that there's a lot of protein sources that don't have to be meat and that those sources are usually very good for you, beans, oats, etc.

 

[HeXen]

i don't every buy meat due to prices. too rich for my blood. Once in a great while i'll get a steak at a restaurant, but usually its something like McD double cheeseburger. At home i have no meats whatsoever, prices are redunkulous. not that i don't crave it constantly.

 

[sdifox]

i don't every buy meat due to prices. too rich for my blood. Once in a great while i'll get a steak at a restaurant, but usually its something like McD double cheeseburger. At home i have no meats whatsoever, prices are redunkulous. not that i don't crave it constantly.

whut? Meat is too cheap, that is the problem.

 

[jupiter57]

Beef.
Lots & lots of Beef!

Everyone here, spread the word, we all need to double our Beef intake immediately!
Please.

Beef prices are falling, so stock up, & consume more than ever before.

My hobby depends on all of you!
:biggrin:

 

[zerocool84]

My dad ate red meat every day of his life and he lived to the rightful age of 38.

 

[destrekor]

Let's see: I cannot stand veggies - and, while I still eat grains, I also fully believe in the notion that carb and grain-heavy diets are NOT good.

So, that leaves products produced by animals, and the animals themselves.

Also, I don't touch fish/seafood. Hell no.

What's a guy to eat, then, if one wishes to, as much as possible, live a heavily-modified version of the Paleo diet?
I need my dead animals dammit!

 

[MrMuppet]

High protein intake reduces lifespan =/

A protein restricted diet can increase lifespan. It should be common sense these days.

Huh? 😵

Shouldn't it be the opposite if anything? Protein is king.

DailyMail: Body builder protein powder 'could increase life expectancy by 10 years'

 

[destrekor]

High protein intake reduces lifespan =/

A protein restricted diet can increase lifespan. It should be common sense these days.

It has nothing to do with the incoming meat shortage. They can't afford to feed the current flock, so they are killing them off, right? So what happens a couple months from now? Prices are going to be insane for meat. They're trying to mitigate it.

A high protein intake (specifically: high meat) will only be harmful to lifespan if you're a lazy fuck.

If you do what the body adapted to do, which is strenuous work from time to time, a QUALITY protein-rich diet will do you some real good. Of course, most of animals we have today are fed a grain-rich diet, which is just as bad for them as it is for us. The meat we should consume is essentially grass-fed and thus rich in ALA, DHA, and/or EPA (Omega 3s). As you take great pains to limit unnecessary saturated fat and trans-fat intake, go out of your way to consume a variety of Essential Fatty Acids, and utility all these chemicals in the repair of damaged tissue (which comes about from rigorous activity), you'll be improving myriad "health variables" that improve your overall outlook. Lipid profiles, quality of circulation, muscle/fat ratio, CNS health and activity, etc. (these are simplified and very broad categories for the sake of argument here, I don't feel like finding a host of research sources).

Something I forgot to cover, as pointed to in the link provided by the poster above, Essential Amino Acids are another crucial aspect to keeping the body in healthy condition.

Like everything, a certain amount of moderation is necessary -- and there is no miracle diet (diet: your average nutritional intake - not a restriction-based weight-loss diet) that will produce a healthy body without any kind of physical effort. While some people can get away with minimal exercise and "eating whatever the hell I wanted", some of this is simply luck of the draw, and often they simply ended up eating a fairly decent mix more often than not.

 

[surfsatwerk]

High protein intake reduces lifespan =/

A protein restricted diet can increase lifespan. It should be common sense these days.

It has nothing to do with the incoming meat shortage. They can't afford to feed the current flock, so they are killing them off, right? So what happens a couple months from now? Prices are going to be insane for meat. They're trying to mitigate it.

High protein diet makes you awesome. An awesome life is better than a lame life no matter how long you linger around.

 

[HeXen]

whut? Meat is too cheap, that is the problem.

lol, do you buy the spare tire meats or what? i only buy (err, would buy) top grade meats and is what i was reffering too. i thought only fast foods and missionaries purchased that rubberized bunk crap.😀 that stuff isn't fit for a microwave let alone a smoker.

 

[lxskllr]

No its really not, if the market was actually setting prices fairly, prices would have already been hiked. Its not going to peak until December. So in the meantime they do stuff like this.

The article pulls out all the dirty tricks. I mean really, did you read it? It tries to persuade you with

- greenhouse gas emissions
- overpopulation
- poor women
- climate change/global warming
- And those evil meat industry tycoons



Nevermind that its because wall street is eating dirt on their August delivery futures contracts for corn.

What you really should be doing is eating as much meat as you can for now, until prices REALLY get hiked.

High protein intake reduces lifespan =/

A protein restricted diet can increase lifespan. It should be common sense these days.

It has nothing to do with the incoming meat shortage. They can't afford to feed the current flock, so they are killing them off, right? So what happens a couple months from now? Prices are going to be insane for meat. They're trying to mitigate it.

What's going on here? You refute my statement that it's a good idea to eat less meat, then you give a reason why it's a good idea to eat less meat. Am I missing some kind of sarcasm here?

 

[AMCRambler]

I skip breakfast most days. Usually just have a cup or two of coffee. If do have some thing i do a banana or sometimes a donut or bagel. Lunch I usually eat a salad, sometimes with chicken. Dinner most nights meat with salad or vegetables on the side. Except on pasta night. So far I still got lead in the pencil and piss in the vinegar so I guess its working. And I do love a good steak.

Rest of the world cant afford it so they dont eat it as much. Probably why Europeans are so frail and small.

 

[bfdd]

lol wut? I eat meat or animal product everyday and I won't stop any time soon though I don't see the harm in the recommendation

 

[zerocool84]

lol, do you buy the spare tire meats or what? i only buy (err, would buy) top grade meats and is what i was reffering too. i thought only fast foods and missionaries purchased that rubberized bunk crap.😀 that stuff isn't fit for a microwave let alone a smoker.

Smoking can make low grade meat muuuuuuuuch better. Ever wonder how BBQ got started by the blacks in the south?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Futures contracts were invented by Enron as an investment tool :/

Enron: Founded in 1985.

First structured futures market: Dōjima Rice Exchange, futures trading started ca. 1710.

So, basically, what you're claiming is that officials from Enron traveled more than 250 years into the past in order to invent futures contracts? Or maybe they only traveled back to 1864 when the CBOT opened and established the first structured futures market in the United States?

Hell, Aristotle has writings where he discusses things that are essentially futures contracts (see Politics and Aristotle's discussion of the story of a man named Thales).

ZV

 

[wirednuts]

i dont mind eating chicken or turkey every day... but red meat? yea i can see why theyre asking us to cut back! it takes 3 days to digest ground beef (3 days to get it all out of your system). most people dont even digest it fully, thats where the nasty farts and slimey shits come in. the stuff is pretty gross! but i do like it and i still eat it, but just once or so a week.

i HATED growing up in the fat generation. all the girls were cows! i wasnt attracted to them because i was so skinny (we didnt have money so we ate light foods... i complained about it as a kid but now i am extremely thankful i dont have bad habits).

sucks though because as a kid i didnt know that everyone was fat and i was the few normal ones. i used to get made fun of for being skinny. ugh...

 

[nanette1985]

When I eat meat, I eat meat leftovers for the rest of the week.

 

[SWScorch]

I'm not going to get involved in the meat/no meat debate, but I will say that whenever I cook for just myself, I tend to cook vegetarian just because it's easier. For those f you wondering what the heck someone can eat that is vegetarian, I humbly submit the following items:

bean & rice burritos
pasta with sauce
PB&J sandwiches
falafel
vegetable stir fry
and things of that nature.

 

[sdifox]

lol, do you buy the spare tire meats or what? i only buy (err, would buy) top grade meats and is what i was reffering too. i thought only fast foods and missionaries purchased that rubberized bunk crap.😀 that stuff isn't fit for a microwave let alone a smoker.

yes your top grade beef is still too cheap. The cattle industry is destroying a lot of forest.

 

[DrPizza]

Sure, I can go a meal without meat. Let's see... pizza with mushrooms okay? Does fish count as meat? The Catholics don't count it as meat...

 

[OverVolt]

Enron: Founded in 1985.

First structured futures market: Dōjima Rice Exchange, futures trading started ca. 1710.

So, basically, what you're claiming is that officials from Enron traveled more than 250 years into the past in order to invent futures contracts? Or maybe they only traveled back to 1864 when the CBOT opened and established the first structured futures market in the United States?

Hell, Aristotle has writings where he discusses things that are essentially futures contracts (see Politics and Aristotle's discussion of the story of a man named Thales).

ZV

Electronic futures :/

They're scraping for historical references of people using futures contracts, which is true, but their use wasn't actually widespread in the market until Enron. For all purposes the way we use them today was 100% started by Enron.

Just like short selling was supposedly

invented in 1609 by Dutch merchant Isaac Le Maire, a sizeable shareholder of the Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (VOC).[2] Short selling has been a target of ire ever since

Which doesn't have much to do with modern short selling

In another well-referenced example, George Soros became notorious for "breaking the Bank of England" on Black Wednesday of 1992, when he sold short more than $10 billion worth of pounds sterling.

Ouch 😛 The next closest example they had was tulip mania and the East India Company. :/

@lxskllr health effects from eating meat, and incoming meat shortage bullshit are 2 different things. The USDA is trying to soften the impact of the drought, citing all sorts of stuff.

They pulled some ideas from Johns Hopkins and ran with it, along with global warming, women in poverty, evil meat industry representatives, overpopulation, and destroying the environment.

I think both things are true but for different reasons. In terms of the drought buy meat while its still cheap(The opposite of what they say), and in terms of health we probably eat too much meat. It shouldn't be used as justification to convince people to eat less meat before the drought hits as that is rather disingenuous by my standards.

 

[Boztech]

High protein intake reduces lifespan =/

A protein restricted diet can increase lifespan. It should be common sense these days.

It has nothing to do with the incoming meat shortage. They can't afford to feed the current flock, so they are killing them off, right? So what happens a couple months from now? Prices are going to be insane for meat. They're trying to mitigate it.

Caloric moderation increases lifespan, not protein moderation specifically, and you need to put "increased lifespan" into context. It does not necessarily equate to optimal health and quality of life.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fasting-longevity-lifespan/

There is no "common sense" when it comes to human nutrition, even the hard science is barely out of the weeds in that area of study unfortunately. Modern, Western society has been sorely misinformed especially for the past 60 years. Worse yet, behaviorally people are extremely peculiar when it comes to diet. Rarely do they ever act in their best interest even when they actually are aware of what that is.