WSAD or arrow keys?

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LtPage1

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Originally posted by: ironcrotch
only newbs use the arrow keys..

because theyre dumb, and its inefficient to reach across the keyboard for jump/reload/etc.
 

Gurck

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ESDF. I don't understand why anyone (much less a majority) would use wasd; esdf is where your hand rests normally when typing and it feels so much more natural there.
 

BobDaMenkey

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I use ESDF because I hate having my hands off of homerow. And I can't use WASD with my ring finger being the forward movement. Most of the people in my LAN party crew use ESDF. There's one or two that are WASD, and a guy with a pink cold cahtode in his Antec Super Lanboy that uses the arrows. That poor soul.
 

mercanucaribe

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I use WASD because I'm used to it. I tried getting used to ESDF in Tribes 2 and failed. I don't understand why the default is WASD when it doesn't match home row. How did WASD come about?
 

5ayle

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I knew a guy that used
S-left strafe
D- crouch
F- right strafe
Left click - forward
Right click backward

I tried it for a while it wasn't bad
now i'm ESDF for life!
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: RockHydra11
WASD Sucks!!!

Even IF they had a legitimate project, I wouldn't buy it just because the advertisments are retarded.

Whoever thought of that (either the product or advertising campaign) needs a slap in the face.
 

Evadman

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I always remap everything. About 5 years ago, I switched entirely tot he numberpad, and use my left hand there.
 

TwiceOver

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WASD because my hands feel too crammed together with the mouse in the right and the arrows on the left. Also easier access to a greater number of keys.
 

RadioHead84

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ESDF for the win. I dont know why i use ESDF and i saw that afew others have used it to. I think that quake 2 or some early version FPS used ESDF becuase that is what i learned circle strafing on and never looked back. Granted i can use WSDF its not that big of a change but the arrows deff suck.

my usual controls are
Shift - Walk
Crtl- Duck
EDSF as u know
Space - Jump(I tried using mouse2 for this becuase its suppose to be better but i have been using it for so long that i cant switch now)
R- Reload
A- Use
q- Flashlight, or prone
z,x,c,- He nade, smoke nade, flash nade, or prone, or commands..depnds on game.
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: Gurck
ESDF. I don't understand why anyone (much less a majority) would use wasd; esdf is where your hand rests normally when typing and it feels so much more natural there.

While I admittedly use WASD because it's what I learned, it actually does make a bit more sense than ESDF (at least on my ergonomic keyboard). For starters, I can reach control, caps lock, and tab with my pinky with considerably less effort in the WASD position. At the same time, my ability to reach t, g, and b with my pointer finger is not significantly impaired (my pointer is longer and more versatile than my pinky). This is advantageous because it makes using the entire left side of the keyboard much more comfortable. As games become more and more complicated, simply being able to comfortably use the entire side of the keybaord becomes much more important.

Also, when I lay my hand flat and keep my center three fingers on ESDF, my pinky rests on the junction between shift, control, and windows. But when I do the same with WASD, my pinky rests firmly on control, making its role a bit less ambiguous. I would argue that this is a good thing because it standardizes controls and, as we all know, trying to switch off with somebody who uses controls different from your own is very irritating.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: 5ayle
I knew a guy that used
S-left strafe
D- crouch
F- right strafe
Left click - forward
Right click backward

I tried it for a while it wasn't bad
now i'm ESDF for life!

That almost makes sense. But how do you shoot? With W E R?
 

Mo0o

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WASD, ESDF sounds promising but from a quick feel the contrl, shift and tab are too far for me to be comfortable. Maybe I just have to get use to it. But in the end, WASD is defualt and its just less hassle since i dont have to remap anything
 

RadioHead84

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Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: Gurck
ESDF. I don't understand why anyone (much less a majority) would use wasd; esdf is where your hand rests normally when typing and it feels so much more natural there.

While I admittedly use WASD because it's what I learned, it actually does make a bit more sense than ESDF (at least on my ergonomic keyboard). For starters, I can reach control, caps lock, and tab with my pinky with considerably less effort in the WASD position. At the same time, my ability to reach t, g, and b with my pointer finger is not significantly impaired (my pointer is longer and more versatile than my pinky). This is advantageous because it makes using the entire left side of the keyboard much more comfortable. As games become more and more complicated, simply being able to comfortably use the entire side of the keybaord becomes much more important.

Also, when I lay my hand flat and keep my center three fingers on ESDF, my pinky rests on the junction between shift, control, and windows. But when I do the same with WASD, my pinky rests firmly on control, making its role a bit less ambiguous. I would argue that this is a good thing because it standardizes controls and, as we all know, trying to switch off with somebody who uses controls different from your own is very irritating.



What you say could be true for you. I dont have any trouble reaching..that could be becuase i have been doing it for so long but still. I also feel that using EDSF lets you use more buttons beucase it has the standard letter buttons on all sides.
 

Mojoed

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Originally posted by: Gurck
ESDF. I don't understand why anyone (much less a majority) would use wasd; esdf is where your hand rests normally when typing and it feels so much more natural there.

:thumbsup:
 

notfred

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here's what I use, it's different than anything I've ever seen anyone else use:

QWER

Q: back
W: strafe left
E: strafe right
R: duck
space: jump
T: reload
Tab: use/activate
Left click: fire
alt: alt fire
right click: forward

You can leave your hand on QWER with your thump on Space, and hardly ever have to move it. I find that a m ore comfortable than WASD. Actually, I started using that key combo before anyone was using WASD, it's jsut what I came up with myself a long time ago. I also play with the mouse reversed.
 

SaturnX

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Originally posted by: fs5
I used to use ESDF but then I just switched to WASD because every damn fps is configured for WASD. If your remap to ESDF then you have to remap the keys E and F were mapped to

Same here... WSAD works just as well.

--Mark
 

JoeKing

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WASD

it's fairly universal so when I play on someone elses computer I don't have to spend 5 mins reconfiguring keys. I can just start pwning people from the start :D
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: RadioHead84
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: Gurck
ESDF. I don't understand why anyone (much less a majority) would use wasd; esdf is where your hand rests normally when typing and it feels so much more natural there.

While I admittedly use WASD because it's what I learned, it actually does make a bit more sense than ESDF (at least on my ergonomic keyboard). For starters, I can reach control, caps lock, and tab with my pinky with considerably less effort in the WASD position. At the same time, my ability to reach t, g, and b with my pointer finger is not significantly impaired (my pointer is longer and more versatile than my pinky). This is advantageous because it makes using the entire left side of the keyboard much more comfortable. As games become more and more complicated, simply being able to comfortably use the entire side of the keybaord becomes much more important.

Also, when I lay my hand flat and keep my center three fingers on ESDF, my pinky rests on the junction between shift, control, and windows. But when I do the same with WASD, my pinky rests firmly on control, making its role a bit less ambiguous. I would argue that this is a good thing because it standardizes controls and, as we all know, trying to switch off with somebody who uses controls different from your own is very irritating.
What you say could be true for you. I dont have any trouble reaching..that could be becuase i have been doing it for so long but still. I also feel that using EDSF lets you use more buttons beucase it has the standard letter buttons on all sides.
Same, keep in mind keyboards are made with the intent of control, shift, caps & tab being accessible with your pinkey. A quick bit of experimentation showed me I have an easier time hitting those keys with my hand on esdf than I have hitting 5, 6, t, g & b with my hand on wasd.