Woz calls out apple for being arrogant with screen size!

[waggy]

I WANTED a bigger screen. the S3 was smaller then what i was actually wanting (the note).

But the S3 is great. i wouldn't want to go to a smaller device at all.

 

[bearxor]

To prove my point... I just took some photos of me using the Samsung Galaxy S3 with my right hand.

Sure. Looks good. No one should have a problem doing the activities you pictured on a large screen phone. It's mainly activities involving the top 1/3rd of the phone that I have a problem with. Like pulling down the notification shade, tapping the address bar in Chrome, or anything that would require interaction on the opposite side of the screen that my thumb was at. Those were some things I found difficult to do on a 4.65" screen.

But again, if you feel perfectly home at doing it, more power to you. All I'm saying is that just because it feels perfectly great and natural to you, doesn't make it the absolute rule. You do. I don't. They're opinions. They're allowed to be different.

 

[kaerflog]

Then those one handed idiots are not using their smartphones properly. Its a multi touch screen. I use two hands on all my phones. IP4, droid razr, SGS2, SGS3. Hell, I used two hands on my 2005 tmobile moto-razr. Only *******s use one hand. What, are one handed people gifted? Are they the chosen ones? puhlease. Everyone uses two hands on their smartphones. My niece is a quadraplegic and she uses two hands on her ipod touch.

This got to be the dumbest post.
So you resort to calling people that like to use their phone 1-handed idiots ???
Is there a right or wrong way to use your smartphone ??
WTF ?? People that are saying they like their phones 1-handed isn't saying they do that 100% of the time.
There are many instants where you have to use your phone 1-handed.
If I holding or carrying someone with one hand and someone text me or whatever. I can reach in my pocket and use the phone with just 1-hand.
The subway is another example where you're holding on with one hand and using your other hand to interact with your phone.

 

[kaerflog]

lol @ everyone simply using their own personal opinion about screen size as fact. Not everyone wants a 4.8 inch screen and not everyone wants a 4.0 inch screen

Apple should be making a larger screen phone but at the same time Android OEMs should be making small screen flagship phones

So fucking true !!!!!

 

[kaerflog]

To prove my point... I just took some photos of me using the Samsung Galaxy S3 with my right hand.

Top 3 photos and 1st photo on the bottom shows me doing random tasks.

Then I have a photo of me holding my car keys to show you how small/average my hands are.

The last photo shows you what camera I was using for this test. Sony NEX-5N mirrorless camera
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What does your picture proof ?? Nothing.
Nobody doubt that you can comfortably use your phone 1-handed.
Whats comfortable or easy for you might not be for others.
You guys act like people like us who like smaller phones have never had big phones. Most of us all have had bigger phones but we much rather have smaller size phones.
I have in my possession right now, 3gs, ip4, HD2, SG2, One S, SG3.
I like carrying around the One S the most.
BTW, your hands are bigger than mine.

 

[badb0y]

Then those one handed idiots are not using their smartphones properly. Its a multi touch screen. I use two hands on all my phones. IP4, droid razr, SGS2, SGS3. Hell, I used two hands on my 2005 tmobile moto-razr. Only *******s use one hand. What, are one handed people gifted? Are they the chosen ones? puhlease. Everyone uses two hands on their smartphones. My niece is a quadraplegic and she uses two hands on her ipod touch.

 

[Zaap]

On the Galaxy S3, using one hand... I can unlock the screen, text a message, dial a phone number, facebook, browse the web, read/type my emails, take photos with the camera, etc. with no effort at all.

The only time I really use 2 hands is to pinch-to-zoom on web pages, use landscape keyboard to type, play games, and to take better photos by holding it with both hands.

My hands are small/average size; I don't know how people can complain about this. Have you guys not tested the Galaxy S3 in person? Are y'all intimiated by the 4.8" screen size?

It's not difficult to use the Galaxy S3 with one hand if that's such a big deal.

Remember- you're talking to a lot of people that love to exaggerate everything into some huge battle to fight tooth and nail over. So in ANY conceivable way that Android has an advantage or is different you'll get the same folks pretending that it's automatically an impossible 'handicap' to be overcome.

It's simple. Whatever it is, just fill in the blank from the choices below and rant away:

"OMG!!!111!!!1 How can anybody cope with ___________________!!!!???!!

A. the hardship of having to change a removable battery
B. all that confusing hardware choice, instead of one device for everyone
C. those confusing widget things
D. GINORMOUS screens too big for my dainty little hands
E. access to the file system... what am I, a rocket scientist or something?
F. standard cables that cost a few bucks each
G. the horrible terrors of endless customization instead of one OS look for everyone
H. those dreadful SD card things
I. anything that isn't 'exactly how Apple would do it'

 

[Deeko]

edit: eh....nm

 

[kaerflog]

It's not difficult to use the Galaxy S3 with one hand if that's such a big deal.

Remember- you're talking to a lot of people that love to exaggerate everything into some huge battle to fight tooth and nail over. So in ANY conceivable way that Android has an advantage or is different you'll get the same folks pretending that it's automatically an impossible 'handicap' to be overcome.

It's simple. Whatever it is, just fill in the blank from the choices below and rant away:

"OMG!!!111!!!1 How can anybody cope with ___________________!!!!???!!

A. the hardship of having to change a removable battery
B. all that confusing hardware choice, instead of one device for everyone
C. those confusing widget things
D. GINORMOUS screens too big for my dainty little hands
E. access to the file system... what am I, a rocket scientist or something?
F. standard cables that cost a few bucks each
G. the horrible terrors of endless customization instead of one OS look for everyone
H. those dreadful SD card things
I. anything that isn't 'exactly how Apple would do it'

And you're so damm ignorant that everything to you is Apple vs Android.
Funny you just assume that any one of us that prefer a smaller phone prefer iPhones.
Some of us have been saying over and over that the SG2 size is the preferred choice.
Wait, the SG2 is an Apple device ??

 

[Deeko]

On the Galaxy S3, using one hand... I can unlock the screen, text a message, dial a phone number, facebook, browse the web, read/type my emails, take photos with the camera, etc. with no effort at all.

The only time I really use 2 hands is to pinch-to-zoom on web pages, use landscape keyboard to type, play games, and to take better photos by holding it with both hands.

My hands are small/average size; I don't know how people can complain about this. Have you guys not tested the Galaxy S3 in person? Are y'all intimiated by the 4.8" screen size?

Intimidated? Really? That's where you're going?

 

[Obsoleet]

I have tiny hands, 'dainty' to my fellow Android users.

I can use any phone including the GS3 without issue with one hand.
What I cannot do, is hold a strong grip on it and use it with one hand. I can with the iPhone5. That presents a security risk where I live. Which is a place where real shit happens as opposed to clownville suburbia. Phones are snatched daily out of hands and I'd prefer to have a decent grip on it during 1 handed use.

That said, is it worth that just to give up the grandiose magnificence that is the GS3 and use an iPhone?

Oh hell no.
Android users- solution: turn those dainty hands into fists.

I think basically what Eug is saying is we don't actually know how strong the demand is for phones that have a 4.3+ inch screen because they don't make flagship phones with less than a 4.3 inch screen. Does the Galaxy well do so well because of its huge screen, or because its a flagship phone that is heavily marketed by carriers and samsung?

Both.
But in regards to the screen comparison. If you send anyone, and I mean anyone even an i-Fan into a store that carries both like BestBuy and looks at both phones, they will choose the GS3 every time. Even if they don't say it, they are sinking inside looking at the glory of the GS3 compared to the very sad looking iPhone5.
Truth.

So Android users, how big is too big? I am genuinely interested in this answer.

Please respond.

I can offer the definitive answer on this for all of us Android users:
Anything that doesn't fit comfortably in your pocket.

Comfort will be subjective per person and skinny vs man jeans, but I stand by the answer. For me the GS3 is as big or just about as big as I would personally want, but more screen + less bezel is ALWAYS welcomed. I have 0 interest in the NoteI/II, but many do.

 

[Obsoleet]

dp

 

[Zaap]

And you're so damm ignorant that everything to you is Apple vs Android.
Funny you just assume that any one of us that prefer a smaller phone prefer iPhones.
Some of us have been saying over and over that the SG2 size is the preferred choice.
Wait, the SG2 is an Apple device ??

IE: B. all that confusing hardware choice, instead of one device for everyone
So get an SG2 and shut up already.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

IMO it is the sweet spot for the general public, even if it might not be for some AnandTech geeks.

TBH the Galaxy Nexus is a tad too big. Not being able to reach the top left corner with your thumb is annoying.

<-- GN owner

 

[WelshBloke]

TBH the Galaxy Nexus is a tad too big. Not being able to reach the top left corner with your thumb is annoying.

<-- GN owner

How often do you need to reach the top left corner?

 

[Obsoleet]

TBH the Galaxy Nexus is a tad too big. Not being able to reach the top left corner with your thumb is annoying.

<-- GN owner

I can reach the top left corner with my thumb on any phone. But I'm left handed.

 

[bearxor]

But in regards to the screen comparison. If you send anyone, and I mean anyone even an i-Fan into a store that carries both like BestBuy and looks at both phones, they will choose the GS3 every time. Even if they don't say it, they are sinking inside looking at the glory of the GS3 compared to the very sad looking iPhone5.
Truth.

Wait... So if I'm reading this right... Every BestBuy has iPhone 5's in stock! And I've been looking in the wrong place all this time! I need to take my wife she wants to upgrade. I'll let you know if she leaves with a GS3 instead.

 

[ControlD]

Our Best Buy has display models but none in stock. I would guess that is somewhat common.

 

[Chiropteran]

I've said this before and I still believe it is true.

Samsung can't make a smaller phone than the galaxy S3 with the exact same specs (except size). It's an impossibility, hardware takes up space. Those of you who want the top of the line fastest possible phone with everything but you also want it with a 3" screen are kidding yourself, that will never happen because it is physically impossible.

So, Samsung does what is possible, makes the s3 mini with reduced specs, and it's rejected by the small phone fans. Admit it, you guys aren't actually small phone fans at all, you just want the absolute best everything and you want it as tiny as possible.

A simple thought experiment. Take a given small (4") phone with the most amazing specs ever. Now make a 5" version, exact same hardware, except the manufacture now has some extra space to fill.

They can make it thinner, using the larger overall area to compensate.

The can use the space and add a larger battery, giving greatly increase battery life.

They can add a more powerful CPU, given larger thermal and spacing budget.

They can add an additional cellular device, allowing better reception/speeds/or more possible carriers.

But whatever they do, they get attacked by the small phone fans. "Why is the small phone thinker? Why is the small phone battery weaker? Why is the small phone slower? Why is the small phone unable to support technology/carrier X?"


Only Apple avoids this, because they don't offer more than one size. If they did, the larger size would have advantages in spec or price, I am certain of it.

 

[badb0y]

I've said this before and I still believe it is true.

Samsung can't make a smaller phone than the galaxy S3 with the exact same specs (except size). It's an impossibility, hardware takes up space. Those of you who want the top of the line fastest possible phone with everything but you also want it with a 3" screen are kidding yourself, that will never happen because it is physically impossible.

So, Samsung does what is possible, makes the s3 mini with reduced specs, and it's rejected by the small phone fans. Admit it, you guys aren't actually small phone fans at all, you just want the absolute best everything and you want it as tiny as possible.

A simple thought experiment. Take a given small (4") phone with the most amazing specs ever. Now make a 5" version, exact same hardware, except the manufacture now has some extra space to fill.

They can make it thinner, using the larger overall area to compensate.

The can use the space and add a larger battery, giving greatly increase battery life.

They can add a more powerful CPU, given larger thermal and spacing budget.

They can add an additional cellular device, allowing better reception/speeds/or more possible carriers.

But whatever they do, they get attacked by the small phone fans. "Why is the small phone thinker? Why is the small phone battery weaker? Why is the small phone slower? Why is the small phone unable to support technology/carrier X?"


Only Apple avoids this, because they don't offer more than one size. If they did, the larger size would have advantages in spec or price, I am certain of it.

Apple has one of the fastest smartphones on the market right now and it's 4'....

 

[MrX8503]

I was thinking that same thing. It's difficult to fit cutting edge hardware in a small phone. Makes the iphone 5 all the more impressive.

 

[dguy6789]

I've said this before and I still believe it is true.

Samsung can't make a smaller phone than the galaxy S3 with the exact same specs (except size). It's an impossibility, hardware takes up space. Those of you who want the top of the line fastest possible phone with everything but you also want it with a 3" screen are kidding yourself, that will never happen because it is physically impossible.

Nonsense. Droid Razr M has the same SOC as the Galaxy S3 and is about the size of an iPhone 4S.

 

[WelshBloke]

I was thinking that same thing. It's difficult to fit cutting edge hardware in a small phone. Makes the iphone 5 all the more impressive.

Ummm, how much bigger do you think a top of the line SOC is compared the a low end one?

The only thing that needs to be bigger in a big screen phone is the screen.

 

[Chiropteran]

Nonsense. Droid Razr M has the same SOC as the Galaxy S3 and is about the size of an iPhone 4S.

Oh, so there is a small phone with all the features people want already out?

Then what are people complaining about?

edit: did the homework-

http://smartphones.techcrunch.com/compare/245-358/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-vs-Motorola-DROID-RAZR-M

The Raxr M weighs 7 grams less. For those 7 grams, you give up a few things.

1GB RAM instead of 2GB

No NFC

2000mAh battery instead of 2100mAh

No image stabilization

No HDMI output

No Gyroscope

No GPU (i don't see how this could be true, but it's on the comparison page)

Standby time 408 hours vs 800 hours

8GB internal storage vs 16GB (or more)

No microSDHC

540X960 res instead of 1280 X 720

Some of those sound a little odd, I'm not sure of the reliability of the site quoted, but it's what I found on google in a few minutes.

The point is though, you give up features and specs to go to a smaller phone, in this case a phone that is only slightly smaller so the specs are only slightly worse.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Yep I'm not sure why Android manufacturers decide to start skimping on features as screen size is reduced. It's not as if they have to remain in some sort of specific spec:screen size proportion.