I see you spouting your political drivel all the time, yet when I bring up a fact which isn't convenient to your story, you get defensive.
I'm curious as to what type of environment you grew up in. Did you really grow up in a diverse area or were you a privileged white kid who feels the need to compensate? Playing the political crusader probably makes you feel like you have a place in life now but you're really just a worthless, clueless kid.
Phokus
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Reading 91ttz's posts, i'm almost sure he wishes we could get back to the good ol' days when 'genetically superior whites' ruled over them 'uncivilized negroes' with slavery and jim crow laws. He's basically your typical ATOT conservative, but not afraid to hide his racism or keep it thinly veiled, unlike other ATOT posters here.
Not at all.
They're a lot more politically correct than me. They went to mostly white schools and didn't have the real life experience with blacks that I did. I went to a public, mostly black school in a bad area, and experienced the harsh realities of the world.
I find that many white people are trying too hard to be politically correct when they have no real experience with what they're talking about. Meanwhile, I speak from experience and since those experiences don't fit in with the fairy tale stories they're taught, they get angry.
Wrong.
The only "good ol' days" that I'm familiar with involve hanging out with the kids (many of which were black) in my town. We'd play, we'd fight, we'd build forts, we'd get in trouble, we'd do all the things that kids do.
I never had the luxury of growing up in an exclusive, all white area with liberal teachers who pump your head full of fairy tales.
Also, I'm not republican. I know that it would make it very convenient for you to fit everyone you don't like into a republicans.txt file, but the truth is that I don't share many of their views. I'm not religious, I don't mind if gays get married, I support the legalization of drugs, I think that Bush and Palin are religious nutjobs, and I think that whole party is doomed.
I am someone who is a free thinker and I use my own experiences as my guide. You won't find me subscribing to an entire platform that one political party chooses as its own. Personally, I don't see how anyone can believe that a political party is in their best interest. Really they're just fooling themselves. I also don't see how someone can latch onto a politician as if he's their savior. I see a power hungry individual that says what's going to get him elected.
But what happens when my experiences or my observations fly in the face of that which is politically correct nowadays? Should I be a brainless sheep and jump on the bandwagon, or should I trust my own senses? Time and time again I've learned that my senses are usually right, so I'm sticking with it.
I have a hard time believing that you believe half the stuff you're saying. Most of your rants are against strawman enemies, as if someone's really going to argue with your hollow points. The only consistency I see in your beliefs is your desire to play the role of the opinionated antiestablishment punk.
Safeway
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I have to agree with 91TTZ just a bit.
My elementary school was 80% Mexican, 19% Black, and 1% White. I am white. In middle school and high school (Talented and Gifted), there was a court sanctioned 33/33/33/1 demographic. I have had lots of real life experience with other cultures. I have come to realize that generally, the "minorities" are more violent and less educated. Even in elementary school, gangs ran the school. Gang initiations involving killing other peoples' pets were common. I can only imagine who the victim was by high school. They are more likely to pull out a knife for glancing at them accidentally. They are more likely to pull a knife on you in a bathroom and ask you in Spanish if you want to die that day.
Am I a racist? I don't think so. I hope not. I will admit that I have formed my own stereotypes and generalizations. If I see a black male in ghetto clothing, I assume that he might become aggressive if I glance at him. If he is in Best Buy with a backpack on, I might assume that he is shoplifting. If it turns out that he is well educated and has a loving family, then I would be surprised, and modify my generalizations.
One cannot be expected to go through life without making such generalizations. If you see a group of three shady individuals at night, you should cross the street to minimize any interaction. If they follow you, you know there is something amiss. This generalization is beneficial, but carries over to daily life as well. If you see a homeless man, you might dodge him so he doesn't ask for money. You don't go into bad neighborhoods at night not because every individual in the area wants to hurt you, but the chance of getting mugged is significantly higher in that neighborhood specifically because the demographics.
My elementary school was 80% Mexican, 19% Black, and 1% White. I am white. In middle school and high school (Talented and Gifted), there was a court sanctioned 33/33/33/1 demographic. I have had lots of real life experience with other cultures. I have come to realize that generally, the "minorities" are more violent and less educated. Even in elementary school, gangs ran the school. Gang initiations involving killing other peoples' pets were common. I can only imagine who the victim was by high school. They are more likely to pull out a knife for glancing at them accidentally. They are more likely to pull a knife on you in a bathroom and ask you in Spanish if you want to die that day.
Am I a racist? I don't think so. I hope not. I will admit that I have formed my own stereotypes and generalizations. If I see a black male in ghetto clothing, I assume that he might become aggressive if I glance at him. If he is in Best Buy with a backpack on, I might assume that he is shoplifting. If it turns out that he is well educated and has a loving family, then I would be surprised, and modify my generalizations.
One cannot be expected to go through life without making such generalizations. If you see a group of three shady individuals at night, you should cross the street to minimize any interaction. If they follow you, you know there is something amiss. This generalization is beneficial, but carries over to daily life as well. If you see a homeless man, you might dodge him so he doesn't ask for money. You don't go into bad neighborhoods at night not because every individual in the area wants to hurt you, but the chance of getting mugged is significantly higher in that neighborhood specifically because the demographics.
Phokus
Lifer
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Basically the same thing anyway, considering your constant rants about how you hate liberals all the time. You sound like you're a racist libertarian, so don't worry about not fitting in with the GOP.
If you're such a free thinker, then how is it you generalize a race based on your OWN limited experiences? If you're such a free thinker, why do you assume that everyone who thinks you're a racist piece of shit is a) white b) rich and c) sheltered? My high school had blacks (not majority) that were bussed in from the inner city and i went to college in the inner city that had black people on campus and outside of campus and i've never had any problems with them.
Another facility has offered use of their pool to the day camp. Meanwhile, Arlen Specter is investigating:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com...blem-for-New-Pool.html
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com...blem-for-New-Pool.html
The reason that I dislike liberals is because I find them to be emotional thinkers, not logical thinkers. Emotional "thinking" isn't really thinking at all, it's just following what "feels" right even if it conflicts with reality. This avoidance of reality bothers me. People should think more scientifically and learn to accept the truth even if it wasn't what they wanted to be the truth. Unfortunately, people who identify as liberal often will concoct a different version of "reality" that agrees with the politically correct preconceived notions. That's not bending your beliefs to match reality, that's distorting reality to match your beliefs.
MagnusTheBrewer
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Instead of addressing my point directly you set up another strawman as a diversion. Sure, there are wacko conservatives out there. Get used to it, you can't change what they think, but you can change what you think.
Now, back to my point. You seem to be more of an emotional thinker than a logical thinker. Instead of forming a logical framework to base your beliefs on you continuously distort the rules to match what you're feeling at the moment.
I seem to recall you supporting racist policies in the name of affirmative action. How can a logical person support race based quotas? It seems to me that a rational person would understand that taking race into account when hiring is wrong, and that favoring or discriminating against certain races is wrong regardless of who that may be. It should be based fully on merit. Yet since these policies are working against whites, you support it. You're taking emotion into account there. You're angry at the white legacy and you want payback, even if that means "paying back" people who were not responsible for the past injustices.
MagnusTheBrewer
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I've never met a statistic but, I've met quite a few people. Your reasoning is self serving. A truly scientific approach is unbiased.
Phokus
Lifer
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I don't recall saying i supported affirmative action on this forum, however when black people with clean criminal records get jobs slower than white ex-cons and blacks are not even considered for job interviews because they have black sounding names, somehow i doubt a 'free thinker' (aka racist shithead) such as yourself has much of a problem with this because it hurts blacks.
http://findarticles.com/p/arti...is_2_108/ai_n15681393/
http://findarticles.com/p/arti...5/is_2_48/ai_97873146/
at the very least, affirmative action corrects some of these imbalances in the free market. Also, in areas where creativity is needed, having diversity can be a benefit.
Wait a second, that is more of an emotional argument than a logical argument. Are you suggesting that people can't be measured via statistics?
It sure seems to me that you are. The fact is that statistics and demographics exist for a reason. While you won't be 100% accurate, you can at least stack the odds in your favor. You could make the point that people in prison are just as nice as people in a charity organization. After all, there are inmates that are falsely imprisoned while there are uncaught criminals working in charity organizations. However, you are far more likely to meet nice people in charity organizations than you would in prison. It's all about probability.
Why do you keep slandering me (calling me a racist shithead) when I've stated that I'm not racist and I've taken the time to address your posts? It seems like you're just overly emotional and you can't control your behavior.
If you can't at least refrain from the childish name calling then I'd probably be better off ignoring you.
I am not the hiring department at these companies which turned away blacks due to their race. Your anger should be directed at them and not me. Affirmative action doesn't solve the problem. As the saying goes, two wrongs don't make a right. Making hiring decisions based on race is wrong, regardless of who is doing it or who it's supposed to be helping.
You're nothing more than a troll who should stick to the P&N forum. I mean just like at your sig. You can't stay out of it.
I will ignore you from this point forward since you don't deserve any respect.
MagnusTheBrewer
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What I'm saying is that you don't deal with statistics, you deal with individuals. If you attempt to base your values and personal relationships on statistics, you are doomed to failure because individual humans are unique and their actions can not be predicted by stats. Statistics are ONLY valuable in dealing with populations. Tell me you've had personal interaction with every black, brown or, color of the week person in your State or, even your city and, I will believe you have a 'scientific' basis for your discrimination.
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