wow, this isn't racist at all

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Phokus

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Phokus

I don't recall saying i supported affirmative action on this forum, however when black people with clean criminal records get jobs slower than white ex-cons and blacks are not even considered for job interviews because they have black sounding names, somehow i doubt a 'free thinker' (aka racist shithead) such as yourself has much of a problem with this because it hurts blacks.

Why do you keep slandering me (calling me a racist shithead) when I've stated that I'm not racist and I've taken the time to address your posts? It seems like you're just overly emotional and you can't control your behavior.

If you can't at least refrain from the childish name calling then I'd probably be better off ignoring you.

How is is slander? You've proved yourself time and time again to be a racist asshat. Maybe you're just overly emotional and can't control your behavior and that's why you're racist.

You're nothing more than a troll who should stick to the P&N forum. I mean just like at your sig. You can't stay out of it.

I will ignore you from this point forward since you don't deserve any respect.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not that! My day is not complete unless i get respect and undivided attention from racist assholes :(

P.s. you still haven't addressed those studies that show racist behavior in the free market that prevents blacks from fairly gaining employement. Some 'free thinker' you are.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer


What I'm saying is that you don't deal with statistics, you deal with individuals. If you attempt to base your values and personal relationships on statistics, you are doomed to failure because individual humans are unique and their actions can not be predicted by stats. Statistics are ONLY valuable in dealing with populations.

But populations are comprised of individuals. While the accuracy of predicting the actions of 1 person won't be very high, you can still apply a probability to their actions. Choosing the highest probability will pay off over time. You'll be wrong here and there, but on the whole their predicted actions will tend towards the probability.

This is the entire concept of probability.

 

11thHour

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Phokus


Basically the same thing anyway, considering your constant rants about how you hate liberals all the time. You sound like you're a racist libertarian, so don't worry about not fitting in with the GOP.

The reason that I dislike liberals is because I find them to be emotional thinkers, not logical thinkers. Emotional "thinking" isn't really thinking at all, it's just following what "feels" right even if it conflicts with reality. This avoidance of reality bothers me. People should think more scientifically and learn to accept the truth even if it wasn't what they wanted to be the truth. Unfortunately, people who identify as liberal often will concoct a different version of "reality" that agrees with the politically correct preconceived notions. That's not bending your beliefs to match reality, that's distorting reality to match your beliefs.

Sure, religious fundamentals/evangelicals, who the conservative operatives pander their platforms to for votes, are very "statistical"... What's this about conservative "reality"?
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Phokus

I don't recall saying i supported affirmative action on this forum, however when black people with clean criminal records get jobs slower than white ex-cons and blacks are not even considered for job interviews because they have black sounding names, somehow i doubt a 'free thinker' (aka racist shithead) such as yourself has much of a problem with this because it hurts blacks.

Why do you keep slandering me (calling me a racist shithead) when I've stated that I'm not racist and I've taken the time to address your posts? It seems like you're just overly emotional and you can't control your behavior.

If you can't at least refrain from the childish name calling then I'd probably be better off ignoring you.

Just because you say you aren't a racist doesn't make it true. Earlier in this thread, I may have been imprecise when I said that you hate black people. You may not. But you have made it clear that you think whites are superior to black people, with meaningless IQ studies (read this article) and anecdotes of the "harsh realities" of the world. You support racial segregation (perhaps not as policy, but you've made it clear that you don't want to be around black people). In every thread about black people or crime, you feel the need to remind us all of stereotypes. In a past thread, you agreed that "apartheid wasn't so bad."

Honest people call this "racism." I know, the word has negative connotations. And it should, because it's a negative ideology.

You are a racist. If you had any courage you would admit that which is obvious.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: 11thHour

Sure, religious fundamentals/evangelicals, who the conservative operatives pander their platforms to for votes, are very "statistical"... What's this about conservative "reality"?

I'm not saying that liberals have cornered the entire market for wackos, it's just that they have a pretty good hold on it.

And I'd agree that the fundamentalists are very predictable. I can't really take them seriously.
 

rh71

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60 rowdy kids jumping in at the same time would be bad regardless. If they were rowdy... and it only takes a sec to see if it would be as such. I'd pull my kid out too if the comfort level went from calm & relaxed to a free-for-all.

But it's obvious some members didn't like the black kids there at all. A few would be fine in my opinion but if you get a whole group of any race together, it's going to turn the tide easy.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: n yusef


Just because you say you aren't a racist doesn't make it true. Earlier in this thread, I may have been imprecise when I said that you hate black people. You may not. But you have made it clear that you think whites are superior to black people, with meaningless IQ studies (read this article) and anecdotes of the "harsh realities" of the world. You support racial segregation (perhaps not as policy, but you've made it clear that you don't want to be around black people). In every thread about black people or crime, you feel the need to remind us all of stereotypes. In a past thread, you agreed that "apartheid wasn't so bad."

Honest people call this "racism." I know, the word has negative connotations. And it should, because it's a negative ideology.

You are a racist. If you had any courage you would admit that which is obvious.

I don't think there's anything I said which is inaccurate. It may disagree with the PC movement, but I still think it's factually correct which is all that matters.

If a black person was cool I'd have no problem hanging out with them. And if a white person was a prick I'd probably kill them if I knew I could get away with it.

Unfortunately you act in a manner which I can't respect. You seem like a punk. Regardless of what color you really are, I wouldn't want to associate with you.
 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
it dpends on what they go thrown out for?

Did they get thrown out for being black
Or did they get thrown out for being 60 rowdy kids?

My question remains unanswered?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
it dpends on what they go thrown out for?

Did they get thrown out for being black
Or did they get thrown out for being 60 rowdy kids?

My question remains unanswered?

Did you even read the article?

"There was concern that a lot of kids would change the complexion ? and the atmosphere of the club," John Duesler, President of The Valley Swim Club said in a statement.
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: n yusef


Just because you say you aren't a racist doesn't make it true. Earlier in this thread, I may have been imprecise when I said that you hate black people. You may not. But you have made it clear that you think whites are superior to black people, with meaningless IQ studies (read this article) and anecdotes of the "harsh realities" of the world. You support racial segregation (perhaps not as policy, but you've made it clear that you don't want to be around black people). In every thread about black people or crime, you feel the need to remind us all of stereotypes. In a past thread, you agreed that "apartheid wasn't so bad."

Honest people call this "racism." I know, the word has negative connotations. And it should, because it's a negative ideology.

You are a racist. If you had any courage you would admit that which is obvious.

I don't think there's anything I said which is inaccurate. It may disagree with the PC movement, but I still think it's factually correct which is all that matters.

If a black person was cool I'd have no problem hanging out with them. And if a white person was a prick I'd probably kill them if I knew I could get away with it.

Unfortunately you act in a manner which I can't respect. You seem like a punk. Regardless of what color you really are, I wouldn't want to associate with you.

Why would I, or any self-respecting black person give a shit about your respect? You will never meet any cool black people, because we don't associate with people who think we are inferior. Frankly, I take your disapproval as a compliment.

And yes, you are incorrect in your extrapolation of anecdotal evidence, your IQ analysis, and your numerous comments like the one above about apartheid (in that thread, I asked for whom was apartheid "not so bad?" and I never received a response).

P.S. I'm really freaked out that you would kill a "prick" if you knew you would get away with it.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Yes, 91TTZ, you are a racist. Good news though, you got yourself a buddy in Rebasxer.

Did you guys learn to hate from your parents?

Wow dude, could you be any less retarded? Try harder, kthxbai.

I don't know about you guys, but I seriously LOL'd at Phokus' posts. How someone could be that distended from reality is quite comical.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: Phokus
You assume i'm white as well? Lol, i just praise jesus i didn't grow up to be a racist shithead like you. Sad thing is, you probably think being a racist piece of shit makes you superior to those 'silver spoon fed LIBERALS'

Wait, could you clear up for me where 91TTZ is a racist?


Hrmm, you can't, GG.
 

SampSon

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Look another thread turned into a political circle-jerk by 91TTZ and Phokus.
You guys should run for office, you both would be all stars in contemporary partisan politics.

 

SunSamurai

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LETS TURN THIS INTO A RACE ISSUE EVEN WHEN ITS NOT!


Do people that start these fucking threads realize THEY are the racist ones? Look the damn word up for fucks sake.
 

Steve

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From another forum:

http://www.philly.com/inquirer...al_discrimination.html

That story confirms that there were in fact eight chaperones and that there was no unruly behavior. However, it is much more complete than the NBC one, and suggests that the club members, rather than the management, were the ones trying to get the camp out. The article also references a biracial club member that said he never experienced discrimination.

In another article (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/50346612.html), the camp director states that she thinks the club president (who made the "complexion" statement) did everything he could to keep the campers at the club.

 

acheron

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Originally posted by: TehMac
I don't know about you guys, but I seriously LOL'd at Phokus' posts. How someone could be that distended from reality is quite comical.

This is pretty much my reaction too. I don't really read P&N so I don't know the history there but just from this thread 91TTZ is looking more or less reasonable, and Phokus is just ranting and using juvenile insults. It's pretty comical, yes, but also a bit sad.
 

11thHour

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: 11thHour

Sure, religious fundamentals/evangelicals, who the conservative operatives pander their platforms to for votes, are very "statistical"... What's this about conservative "reality"?

I'm not saying that liberals have cornered the entire market for wackos, it's just that they have a pretty good hold on it.

And I'd agree that the fundamentalists are very predictable. I can't really take them seriously.

You just made my point.

Since wacko's are at the heart of today's conservative base (as you conceded), what does one call a fringe conservative (a standard deviation or more away from the conservative center), an extreme wacko?

Overall you'd be hard pressed to make a convincing argument that during this generation, liberals have been lesser contributors to the strength of our society than conservatives (or have been stronger underminers than conservatives), so to suggest that liberals have a 'pretty good hold on the market for wackos' is a contradiction and not a 'statistically sound' argument, since their center alone is far less wacko than today's conservative center.

Sounds like you're getting too emotional in your arguments. ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
How the hell could they not know who they were accepting as members? Racist or not that's poor business sense. Now they've got all this negative publicity.
I'm almost positive this private swim club really doesn't give a shit about negative publicity.
I'd be willing to bet their white upper-middle class clientele will be more apt to renew their membership when the time comes.

Yep, free market at work. Keep out black kids = more business from racist whites. It's actually positive free advertising for them, if you think about it that way. This is why racist whites gravitate towards economic conservativism and hate 'big government' initiatives like the civil rights act (which is supposed to curtail racist abuses like this).

Jesus Christ you're a fucking moron. Because there are soooo many racist white people out there that will flock to this pool now. You really are one of the dumbest people on this board.
I'll say it's why racist blacks gravitate towards socialism and the liberal side because they can get something from nothing.

In other news. BLACKS ARE RACISTS TOO
http://www.ohio.com/news/50172282.html
 

edro

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Originally posted by: amdhunter
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lol
 

tk149

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"When the minority children got in the pool all of the Caucasian children immediately exited the pool," Horace Gibson, parent of a day camp child, wrote in an email. "The pool attendants came and told the black children that they did not allow minorities in the club and needed the children to leave immediately."

Unless Horace was actually present, which I doubt since this was a DAYCARE trip, this qualifies as hearsay - good to see the media quoting someone who heard from someone else about what happened, rather than going to the source. :disgust:


"There was concern that a lot of kids would change the complexion ? and the atmosphere of the club," John Duesler, President of The Valley Swim Club said in a statement.

Note the ellipses - I wonder what the author of the article selectively decided to leave out? Why didn't the author interview a pool worker?

Maybe it's racism, and maybe it's sensationalism. Without more information, I'm going with the latter.

I always find it interesting that most AT'ers don't bother to critically analyze an article before forming an opinion. Actually, it's not really that interesting, it's just sad.