Would you mind if the USPS stopped working on Saturdays?

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yes.

I agree.

Forget about the government bloat for a moment. Think about how much business will be delayed as a result. That's a lot of money. I realize businesses have other options than the USPS for many things, but I can guarantee you that there will be a lot of delays still and a lot of money lost as a result.

What business?
They still move mail around they just don't deliver it to the houses.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yes.

I agree.

Forget about the government bloat for a moment. Think about how much business will be delayed as a result. That's a lot of money. I realize businesses have other options than the USPS for many things, but I can guarantee you that there will be a lot of delays still and a lot of money lost as a result.

What business?
They still move mail around they just don't deliver it to the houses.

It would mean that business related mail being delivered to both homes and businesses will be delivered on the following Monday instead. That's a delay for those who plan to use that mail on that Saturday.

 

[Turin39789]

yes



and what a wonderful thread for a poll

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yes.

I agree.

Forget about the government bloat for a moment. Think about how much business will be delayed as a result. That's a lot of money. I realize businesses have other options than the USPS for many things, but I can guarantee you that there will be a lot of delays still and a lot of money lost as a result.

What business?
They still move mail around they just don't deliver it to the houses.

It would mean that business related mail being delivered to both homes and businesses will be delivered on the following Monday instead. That's a delay for those who plan to use that mail on that Saturday.

You are the one that said "Think about how much business will be delayed...". So again, what would hurt so badly that could not wait until Monday?

 

[lokiju]

I'm neutral.

 

[Vette73]

This is why Gov gets so bloated. People complain about taxs, cost, prices, etc... yet when the Gov trys to cut cost and streamline they get bitched at as well.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Deeko
Yes.

I agree.

Forget about the government bloat for a moment. Think about how much business will be delayed as a result. That's a lot of money. I realize businesses have other options than the USPS for many things, but I can guarantee you that there will be a lot of delays still and a lot of money lost as a result.

What business?
They still move mail around they just don't deliver it to the houses.

It would mean that business related mail being delivered to both homes and businesses will be delivered on the following Monday instead. That's a delay for those who plan to use that mail on that Saturday.

Most businesses don't operate on saturday anyway, so everything is still processed on Monday.

Saturday delivery is pretty much just a pep for people at home.

For those interested, take a look at their financial statements.

http://www.usps.com/financials/anrpt08/pg47.htm

I personally think eliminating saturdays is a pretty good cost cutting idea.

 

[syee]

While Saturday delivery is nice, I don't think it's a necessity. In most parts of the world (I'm in Canada, but have lived in Australia as well), delivery is from Monday to Friday. No one is up in arms about not getting mail on Saturday. Mail that goes through the postal service usually isn't time sensitive and there isn't a guarantee on delivery times through the postal service either.

If you're going to get inconvenienced by not getting mail on Saturday, use a courier service like Fedex or UPS. (which by the way doesn't deliver Saturdays or Sundays either unless you pay extra for the service)

The economy is hurting right now, and businesses are looking at ways to cut costs. This is probably one of the better ideas of cutting costs. Think of it this way - would you want postal rates to go up, or lose Saturday delivery?

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
You are the one that said "Think about how much business will be delayed...". So again, what would hurt so badly that could not wait until Monday?

All I am saying is that there will be a loss tied to it and a lot of businesses operate on Saturday especially these days. Those losses are also losses that are normally taxed so the amount of tax dollars you save by cutting out Saturdays may not be very attractive. I can't say for sure without the numbers. If I am wrong then I am wrong, but I think that the only foolish decision would be the one where we automatically assume that it will save us tax money. It may not and if it does then the amount it saves may not justify the inconvenience.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
You are the one that said "Think about how much business will be delayed...". So again, what would hurt so badly that could not wait until Monday?

All I am saying is that there will be a loss tied to it and a lot of businesses operate on Saturday especially these days. Those losses are also losses that are normally taxed so the amount of tax dollars you save by cutting out Saturdays may not be very attractive. I can't say for sure without the numbers. If I am wrong then I am wrong, but I think that the only foolish decision would be the one where we automatically assume that it will save us tax money. It may not and if it does then the amount it saves may not justify the inconvenience.

There is little to no lose from losing Sat delivery. Most business that use mail for business are not even open on Sat.

You are the one to put it forward and can't even come up with one way a large number of business's will lose money.

 

[KeithP]

I would mind. In fact, I think they should be going in the opposite direction and offer service on Sunday.

If they want to save money, how about they do an across the board 25% pay cut in workers salaries? I am sure that any of their workers that don't like that would have no trouble finding new jobs with their qualifications and experience.

-KeithP

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
You are the one that said "Think about how much business will be delayed...". So again, what would hurt so badly that could not wait until Monday?

All I am saying is that there will be a loss tied to it and a lot of businesses operate on Saturday especially these days. Those losses are also losses that are normally taxed so the amount of tax dollars you save by cutting out Saturdays may not be very attractive. I can't say for sure without the numbers. If I am wrong then I am wrong, but I think that the only foolish decision would be the one where we automatically assume that it will save us tax money. It may not and if it does then the amount it saves may not justify the inconvenience.

Everything will get moved to Monday. The world doesn't end because FedEx/UPS doesn't deliver on Saturday.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: KeithP
I would mind. In fact, I think they should be going in the opposite direction and offer service on Sunday.

If they want to save money, how about they do an across the board 25% pay cut in workers salaries? I am sure that any of their workers that don't like that would have no trouble finding new jobs with their qualifications and experience.

-KeithP

My sarcasm meter and dumbass meter are going crazy, don't know which one is right.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: KeithP
I would mind. In fact, I think they should be going in the opposite direction and offer service on Sunday.

If they want to save money, how about they do an across the board 25% pay cut in workers salaries? I am sure that any of their workers that don't like that would have no trouble finding new jobs with their qualifications and experience.

-KeithP

Sure let that happen and see how fast people attack them for hurting Vets. You do know that the Fed Gov (including PO) have a Vets preferance rule. So a large number of them are Vets.

Good luck with that when Congressman and Sentors start hearing from vet groups.

 

[joutlaw]

What I don't think a lot of people understand is the mail wouldn't stop from Friday night to Monday morning. It doesn't stop on holidays either. Mail still has to be routed behind the scenes and certain staff would still be required to work.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
You are the one that said "Think about how much business will be delayed...". So again, what would hurt so badly that could not wait until Monday?

All I am saying is that there will be a loss tied to it and a lot of businesses operate on Saturday especially these days. Those losses are also losses that are normally taxed so the amount of tax dollars you save by cutting out Saturdays may not be very attractive. I can't say for sure without the numbers. If I am wrong then I am wrong, but I think that the only foolish decision would be the one where we automatically assume that it will save us tax money. It may not and if it does then the amount it saves may not justify the inconvenience.

There is little to no lose from losing Sat delivery. Most business that use mail for business are not even open on Sat.

You are the one to put it forward and can't even come up with one way a large number of business's will lose money.

No, I can't prove it without some solid estimates and nor can you prove me wrong without them either.

That doesn't really matter though. I don't care if I am wrong and you are right. I just want to make sure that all of the details are considered. It is dumb to automatically assume that this is a good thing.

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: Xavier434
All I am saying is that there will be a loss tied to it and a lot of businesses operate on Saturday especially these days. Those losses are also losses that are normally taxed so the amount of tax dollars you save by cutting out Saturdays may not be very attractive. I can't say for sure without the numbers. If I am wrong then I am wrong, but I think that the only foolish decision would be the one where we automatically assume that it will save us tax money. It may not and if it does then the amount it saves may not justify the inconvenience.

Everything will get moved to Monday. The world doesn't end because FedEx/UPS doesn't deliver on Saturday.

We are talking about USPS. Not FedEx/UPS.

Beyond that, I don't see how everything will magically get moved to Monday. There is only so much time in a single day.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Xavier434


We are talking about USPS. Not FedEx/UPS.

Beyond that, I don't see how everything will magically get moved to Monday. There is only so much time in a single day.

Ok, so tell me what "business related" material that's delivered on Saturday is so crutch that business won't be able to adapt?

Your assumptions that shit can't be moved onto Monday is ridiculous, since that's exactly what happens with UPS/FedEx

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I wouldn't mind if they stopped working, period, and allowed the private sector to take over all postal services.

This I would mind. You'd end up paying exorbitant prices for normal mail.

Seriously. When's the last time UPS or Fedex let you send a letter for 42 cents?

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: dakels

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I wouldn't mind if they stopped working, period, and allowed the private sector to take over all postal services.

This I would mind. You'd end up paying exorbitant prices for normal mail.

Seriously. When's the last time UPS or Fedex let you send a letter for 42 cents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Express_Statutes

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I wouldn't mind if they stopped working, period, and allowed the private sector to take over all postal services.

Otherwise, Saturday delivery should remain.

that's not feasible.

i dont have a problem with them doing what is required to become more profitable. however, there are some minimum standards that they need to adhere to.

so if they want to suspend saturday delivery, so be it.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: dakels

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I wouldn't mind if they stopped working, period, and allowed the private sector to take over all postal services.

This I would mind. You'd end up paying exorbitant prices for normal mail.

Seriously. When's the last time UPS or Fedex let you send a letter for 42 cents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Express_Statutes

...so the answer would be never?

 

[trmiv]

I wouldn't care. Saturday delivery is nice and all, but I'd get over it.

 

[Oyeve]

No, I have everything shipped to work anyways so being I dont work on Saturday it makes no nevemind to me.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: dakels

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: daniel1113
I wouldn't mind if they stopped working, period, and allowed the private sector to take over all postal services.

This I would mind. You'd end up paying exorbitant prices for normal mail.

Seriously. When's the last time UPS or Fedex let you send a letter for 42 cents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Express_Statutes

...so the answer would be never?

Pretty much, but that's only because they are not allowed to by law. Perhaps they could do it at a lower cost than the post office... Lysander Spooner did.

 

[phreaqe]

a different article i read on this same topic was talking about them stopping tuesday delivery since it is the slowest day and keeping saturday delivery. i would not have a problem with that i think.