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Would you mind if the USPS stopped working on Saturdays?

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SunnyD

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Originally posted by: yinan
I would not mind if they shut down completely. If the costs for mailing stuff were more expensive, then less junk would get sent out. I get 99% of everything I need delivered electronically.

This mostly. However mail is about the only nearly reliable way to get something from point A to point B with some sort of guarantee (mail fraud anyone?), ANYWHERE in the US.

Though I wouldn't care much if they went to a once-a-week pick-up/delivery system either. Nothing better than to make your mondays suck than getting bills in the mail!
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: dakels
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: daniel1113
I wouldn't mind if they stopped working, period, and allowed the private sector to take over all postal services.

This I would mind. You'd end up paying exorbitant prices for normal mail.

Seriously. When's the last time UPS or Fedex let you send a letter for 42 cents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_Express_Statutes

...so the answer would be never?

Pretty much, but that's only because they are not allowed to by law. Perhaps they could do it at a lower cost than the post office... Lysander Spooner did.

Yea but otherc can do it cheaper as they did not deliever to all. Why use pack mules to haul mail for .42 when I can just say no.

"We move mail using planes, trains, trucks, cars, boats, ferries, helicopters, bicycles, hovercrafts, subways and even mules."

http://www.usps.com/communicat...wsroom/postalfacts.htm

 

rh71

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2 days in a row with no mail is too much. I wouldn't mind if they skipped like a Wednesday and Sunday instead for residential.
 

GoPackGo

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You know the reason they are losing money is their super-high pension costs.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
You know the reason they are losing money is their super-high pension costs.

They changed the system over 20 years ago. CSRS has been dead for a long time. Yea they are still paying but that will come down. medical cost will still be there, but that is one of the reasons why people take the job and keep it.
 

sactoking

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We've had 7 rate increases in 10 years, amounting to ~33% increase in the cost to mail a letter. Add in a dropped delivery day as well? That's ridiculous.

Obviously SOMETHING at the USPS is very stinky. Eliminating Saturday delivery won't fix the underlying problem(s). Until someone is put in charge with the knowledge and authority to do what needs to be done the USPS will never be viable entity again.
 
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Originally posted by: sactoking
We've had 7 rate increases in 10 years, amounting to ~33% increase in the cost to mail a letter. Add in a dropped delivery day as well? That's ridiculous.

Obviously SOMETHING at the USPS is very stinky. Eliminating Saturday delivery won't fix the underlying problem(s). Until someone is put in charge with the knowledge and authority to do what needs to be done the USPS will never be viable entity again.

Yet rate increases AFAIK have still been below the inflation rate.

And when you raise letter rates by a cent or two every other year, of course it looks like a large percentage. You're just playing with numbers to make it sound ridiculous.
 
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i want a DO NOT CALL list for spam mail
you would think all the environuts would be pushing for this like mad.
cut down on 90% of mail volume, get back a ton of workers time, can delivery real may more efficiently.

on a side note, i dont really understand why the mail business is not a 7 day operation. i would think it would be viable.
 

jEnus

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: daniel1113
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: daniel1113
I wouldn't mind if they stopped working, period, and allowed the private sector to take over all postal services.

Otherwise, Saturday delivery should remain.

Why? The USPS does a great job and it's far cheaper than UPS or FedEx. If the private sector took over, people in rural areas would be charged an arm and a leg to get mail.

No, it's not cheaper. The costs are just absorbed by government funding, aka taxes.


Stop posting.


"Do not receive tax dollars for operations. We are a self-supporting agency, using the revenue from the sale of postage and products to pay expenses."

http://www.usps.com/communicat...wsroom/postalfacts.htm



This. Do you us a favor and take the man's advice. Don't post and make an outlandish comment unless you have proof to back it up. Otherwise you look like a poppas ass.
 

Electric Amish

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Fedex does deliver on Saturday, if requested.

I like getting mail on Saturday and would prefer they not stop. They should jack the postage price to 50-75c and get it over with for awhile.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: sactoking
We've had 7 rate increases in 10 years, amounting to ~33% increase in the cost to mail a letter. Add in a dropped delivery day as well? That's ridiculous.

Obviously SOMETHING at the USPS is very stinky. Eliminating Saturday delivery won't fix the underlying problem(s). Until someone is put in charge with the knowledge and authority to do what needs to be done the USPS will never be viable entity again.

Yet rate increases AFAIK have still been below the inflation rate.

And when you raise letter rates by a cent or two every other year, of course it looks like a large percentage. You're just playing with numbers to make it sound ridiculous.

Also congss said they had to FULLY fund their retirement account. Then gas has gone up and so forth.
 

boomerang

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It's going the way of the dinosaur. Technology is making the Postal Service more and more obsolete with every passing year.

They can do away with Saturday delivery if they want, but they are just postponing the inevitable IMO.

Businesses across the land are laying off, cutting hours and cutting wages. This may be in the future for postal employees also.

My guess is that at this point there will be no layoffs, just Saturday hours will be eliminated. I would guess that was premium pay too.
 
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Originally posted by: boomerang
It's going the way of the dinosaur. Technology is making the Postal Service more and more obsolete with every passing year.

They can do away with Saturday delivery if they want, but they are just postponing the inevitable IMO.

Businesses across the land are laying off, cutting hours and cutting wages. This may be in the future for postal employees also.

My guess is that at this point there will be no layoffs, just Saturday hours will be eliminated. I would guess that was premium pay too.

The postal service might experience less volume, but paper mail, whether it is magazines, official notices, etc is going to be around for a long time. And they do other things besides mailing letters.
 

sactoking

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: sactoking
We've had 7 rate increases in 10 years, amounting to ~33% increase in the cost to mail a letter. Add in a dropped delivery day as well? That's ridiculous.

Obviously SOMETHING at the USPS is very stinky. Eliminating Saturday delivery won't fix the underlying problem(s). Until someone is put in charge with the knowledge and authority to do what needs to be done the USPS will never be viable entity again.

Yet rate increases AFAIK have still been below the inflation rate.

And when you raise letter rates by a cent or two every other year, of course it looks like a large percentage. You're just playing with numbers to make it sound ridiculous.

B.S.

Between 1919 and 1974, a span of 56 years, there were 6 (SIX) rate increases. That's one every 112 months. From 1975-1985, a 11 year span, there were 5 increases; one every 26.4 months. From 1986-1995, 10 years, there were 3 increases; one every 40 months. In the latest 10 years (1999-2008) there have been 7 increases; one every ~17 months.

From 1919-1974 the rate went from $.02 to $.10; a 400% increase. Inflation was 174%.
1975-1985 saw rates rise from $.10 to $.22; a 120% increase. Inflation was 94%.
1986-1995 rates went from $.22 to $.32; a 45% increase. Inflation was 37%.
1999-2008 rates went from $.33 to $.42; a 27% increase. Inflation was 31%.

What we have here is an institution who's costs have historically FAR exceed inflation. They've asked for more increases recently than ever before. The most recent increases have, for the most part, kept pace with inflation.

The USPS has no excuse- it is a horribly managed institution. It either needs to shape up or shut down. Stopgap measures like canceling Saturday delivery will do nothing to solve the USPS problems.
 

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: yinan
I would not mind if they shut down completely. If the costs for mailing stuff were more expensive, then less junk would get sent out. I get 99% of everything I need delivered electronically.

This

ETA - I'm so fucking sick and tired of junk mail that it makes my blood boil just to check the damned mail.
 

mrSHEiK124

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90% of the shit in my mailbox is spam. And the spammers get to send their shit at reduced rates. Cut all that out, I throw your damn coupons and ads directly into the garbage can anyways.
 

woodie1

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****Would you mind if the USPS stopped working on Saturdays? ****

And this would be a change how?
 

moparacer

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Yes I would mind...I do a lot of paperwork for my business on Saturdays and like being able to drop off mail at the mailbox Saturday morning and have it picked up.......