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Syrch

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are you going to sit here and quote/respond to every post in the thread?
 

MrDudeMan

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OP, you are a dumbass. I don't know how else to say it. I guess you think everyone should be given a handicap to make it a level playing field. The playing field is already level. Every golfer has the ability to go out there and beat Tiger if they make the right strokes. You sound like a jealous prick who wants to rain on other people's parades for no apparent reason other than your own bitterness.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: waggy
if you don't like then do not watch.

I don't like the idea of handicaping someone just because they dominate a sport.

I don't watch quite often. And who said anything about handicapping? Where do you get that crap.?
 

UNCjigga

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They should make Tiger tee off from his own "Super Pro" tees just to give everyone else a fighting chance! :)
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: Patt
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Speak for yourself. I'm an American and i don't love dominating athletes. And there were many millionaire golfers long before Woods came along, and large purses too.

Not really ... Tiger has driven it to entirely different realms ... sure there may have been a few millionaires, but the regular grinder on tour is now at that point too. I'd be willing to bet that although it hurts to lose to him all the time, most are thankful for his presence in terms of what sort of financial rewards come about.

I would rather not argue with you about the thoughts of others, of which neither of us has any knowledge.OK
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: yamadakun
Yeah, let's ban all the players who win more than twice in their career. :roll:

While we are at it, why don't we redistribute the wealth of millionaires and billionaires because they are so dominant with their wealth.

Why don't you just answer the poll and cut out the hyperbole.

Hyperbole is claiming playing as well as Woods is easy.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: waggy
if you don't like then do not watch.

I don't like the idea of handicaping someone just because they dominate a sport.

I don't watch quite often. And who said anything about handicapping? Where do you get that crap.?

then what is your fucking point? Woods just kicks ass. in 20 years you won't have to worry about it.
 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
OP, you are a dumbass. I don't know how else to say it. I guess you think everyone should be given a handicap to make it a level playing field. The playing field is already level. Every golfer has the ability to go out there and beat Tiger if they make the right strokes. You sound like a jealous prick who wants to rain on other people's parades for no apparent reason other than your own bitterness.

haha so OP is casiotech!
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: bignateyk
uhh.. tiger is the only reason that many people even watch the game to start with. Trust me, without tiger, the tour would lose quite a bit of popularity.

Your nuts, get out of this thread. I've been watching golf since the 60s and i know many people who have been watching for years. You don't know what you are talking about.


Yeah, and you were the only 3 people. If you don't think Tiger has been a huge draw for non-golf fans, then you've spent too much time with the ball washer (I don't even know what that means).

I see so if Woods suddenly left golf the sport would be kaput. Ok if you say so.
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: fredhe12
I bet the rest of the guys on Tour think it's great for the game, if not for them personally as competitors. The Tour purses are astronomical because of Tiger. The TV contract is what is because of Tiger. The amount of youngsters taking up the game (particularly minorities) has gone up because of Tiger. Golf has more interest than ever as a spectator sport because of Tiger. I could go on and on, but the point is that all the attention he brings to the sport is because he is so dominant. Remember, America loves a winner. Particularly one who pwns at will!

I don't know what the other players think, other than one player remarked;"It just makes it harder for the rest of us," Johnson said. "Why give him another thing to try to achieve. He's a very driven man. When you add another element to that drive, what are you going to do?" So all of the players are not enamored of Woods.

Speak for yourself. I'm an American and i don't love dominating athletes. And there were many millionaire golfers long before Woods came along, and large purses too.

These are generally called sore losers. If you can't step up your game to match a dominating force then you're obviously not worthy to be called an athlete. How does one even get into sports if they can't handle competition?
 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: bignateyk
uhh.. tiger is the only reason that many people even watch the game to start with. Trust me, without tiger, the tour would lose quite a bit of popularity.

Your nuts, get out of this thread. I've been watching golf since the 60s and i know many people who have been watching for years. You don't know what you are talking about.


Yeah, and you were the only 3 people. If you don't think Tiger has been a huge draw for non-golf fans, then you've spent too much time with the ball washer (I don't even know what that means).

I see so if Woods suddenly left golf the sport would be kaput. Ok if you say so.

I've officially put you on the a$$hat list. No the sport wouldn't go kaput but the ratings would go down and with that the players salaries would go down. Do you have any education at all? The math is not that hard to figure out.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: bignateyk
uhh.. tiger is the only reason that many people even watch the game to start with. Trust me, without tiger, the tour would lose quite a bit of popularity.

Your nuts, get out of this thread. I've been watching golf since the 60s and i know many people who have been watching for years. You don't know what you are talking about.

So if you have been watching golf since the 60's and have all these friends that watch it with you wouldn't you realize that the ratings of golf have increase since tiger has been playing? Haven't you realized that when tiger is on his game more people start to tune in? OP your are acting like a tool right now. And to answer your question, No! I'll watch tiger win every day and still not get tired of it. Watching what he does is just breath taking at times and seem impossible.

Than watch whose stopping you. I just asked a question in a poll. Don't call me a tool or that you know more about golf than me.
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: bignateyk
uhh.. tiger is the only reason that many people even watch the game to start with. Trust me, without tiger, the tour would lose quite a bit of popularity.

Your nuts, get out of this thread. I've been watching golf since the 60s and i know many people who have been watching for years. You don't know what you are talking about.


Yeah, and you were the only 3 people. If you don't think Tiger has been a huge draw for non-golf fans, then you've spent too much time with the ball washer (I don't even know what that means).

I see so if Woods suddenly left golf the sport would be kaput. Ok if you say so.

It has nothing to do with him leaving and thus killing Golf. It's the fact that if he was never there, golf would not have received the same notoriety that it currently has unless there was another charismatic player to step up and dominate. You might as well start wishing Jack Nicklaus never played because he was too dominant.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
why is it bad to have someone raise the bar and show us all what is possible?

Why do you care what bar he climbed? What does that have to do with you? He climbed the bar , not you.

um, i'm a human. when thousands of humans try to do something and a single 1 excels far beyond all others, i find that inspiring.

have you never had anyone inspire you? have you never had a childhood hero? have you never aspired to be like that person?

I'm human too. I don't find pro golfers particularly inspiring.


Why have you been watching golf since the 60s?

Because i like golf.

 

waggy

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: bignateyk
uhh.. tiger is the only reason that many people even watch the game to start with. Trust me, without tiger, the tour would lose quite a bit of popularity.

Your nuts, get out of this thread. I've been watching golf since the 60s and i know many people who have been watching for years. You don't know what you are talking about.


Yeah, and you were the only 3 people. If you don't think Tiger has been a huge draw for non-golf fans, then you've spent too much time with the ball washer (I don't even know what that means).

I see so if Woods suddenly left golf the sport would be kaput. Ok if you say so.


you are a fucking retard. NOWHERE did he say that or even hint at it.

IF Woods retired viewership would go down. wich means the purse's would go down. not to mention the number of tournaments.


 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
why is it bad to have someone raise the bar and show us all what is possible?

Why do you care what bar he climbed? What does that have to do with you? He climbed the bar , not you.

um, i'm a human. when thousands of humans try to do something and a single 1 excels far beyond all others, i find that inspiring.

have you never had anyone inspire you? have you never had a childhood hero? have you never aspired to be like that person?

I'm human too. I don't find pro golfers particularly inspiring.


Why have you been watching golf since the 60s?

Because i like golf.

Why watch if it's not inspiring? You can always just go out and play instead of observing.
 

Syrch

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: bignateyk
uhh.. tiger is the only reason that many people even watch the game to start with. Trust me, without tiger, the tour would lose quite a bit of popularity.

Your nuts, get out of this thread. I've been watching golf since the 60s and i know many people who have been watching for years. You don't know what you are talking about.

So if you have been watching golf since the 60's and have all these friends that watch it with you wouldn't you realize that the ratings of golf have increase since tiger has been playing? Haven't you realized that when tiger is on his game more people start to tune in? OP your are acting like a tool right now. And to answer your question, No! I'll watch tiger win every day and still not get tired of it. Watching what he does is just breath taking at times and seem impossible.

Than watch whose stopping you. I just asked a question in a poll. Don't call me a tool or that you know more about golf than me.

I called you a tool because of the responses you decided to post. I never claimed to know more about golf than you.

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

I don't watch quite often. And who said anything about handicapping? Where do you get that crap.?

If you are going to tell others to get their facts straight maybe you should do the same.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
just because he's the best doesn't mean it's easy.

So you honestly don't think winning on the PGA tour is easy for Woods. Come on he has won almost 50% of the tourneys he entered this year alone and routinely wins by wide margins and NEVER loses when he has a 4th round lead. ARE you serious?

Unless he is winning 100% of the time, then no, it isn't too easy. If it was too easy, he wouldn't ever lose.

Well that is YOUR definition of easy, not mine

if it was easy, would he land in the rough and bogey some holes?
your definition of easy is obviously flawed if you think the sport is 'easy' for him. Now sure, some specific courses are easy, but when he screws up even at those places, that proves there is still a chance of error when he swings that club. But it's not chance. If he doesn't line his body up perfectly, he is introducing a possibility of screwing up. A champion has to read everything about the environment and himself, that is the constant challenge of the game. If you misread your own body cues, you will screw up greatly. That is why EVERY golfer has bad days and will every now and then, or some more than others, land in the rough or in hazards. Bad reads, be it from the environment or your body.
Golf is a helluva challenging sport once you reach the pro level. The challenge never lets up, just how much you perfect your ability will help your score. But the challenge constantly exists.

How do you know what a champion has to do? Are you one?

Why are you claiming it's easy to be a champion, are you one?

I asked If it seems to be easy for Woods. No i am not.

No, he was claiming to know what a champion is thinking. If he isn't a champion how would he know?
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
OP, you are a dumbass. I don't know how else to say it. I guess you think everyone should be given a handicap to make it a level playing field. The playing field is already level. Every golfer has the ability to go out there and beat Tiger if they make the right strokes. You sound like a jealous prick who wants to rain on other people's parades for no apparent reason other than your own bitterness.

Look you, i didn't say ANYTHING about LEVELING any playing field. Where do you get that shit.
Jealous, i just asked a question in a poll. I think the tour has become easy for Woods to win on.
So you don't agree with me, fine. Don't call me a prick.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: waggy
if you don't like then do not watch.

I don't like the idea of handicaping someone just because they dominate a sport.

I don't watch quite often. And who said anything about handicapping? Where do you get that crap.?

then what is your fucking point? Woods just kicks ass. in 20 years you won't have to worry about it.

What point?Who says there was some point? Just a poll. If you don't like the poll or thread get out then.
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: Syrch
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: bignateyk
uhh.. tiger is the only reason that many people even watch the game to start with. Trust me, without tiger, the tour would lose quite a bit of popularity.

Your nuts, get out of this thread. I've been watching golf since the 60s and i know many people who have been watching for years. You don't know what you are talking about.


Yeah, and you were the only 3 people. If you don't think Tiger has been a huge draw for non-golf fans, then you've spent too much time with the ball washer (I don't even know what that means).

I see so if Woods suddenly left golf the sport would be kaput. Ok if you say so.

I've officially put you on the a$$hat list. No the sport wouldn't go kaput but the ratings would go down and with that the players salaries would go down. Do you have any education at all? The math is not that hard to figure out.

You have a very abrasive attitude, maybe you should call it a day and leave this thread.
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
just because he's the best doesn't mean it's easy.

So you honestly don't think winning on the PGA tour is easy for Woods. Come on he has won almost 50% of the tourneys he entered this year alone and routinely wins by wide margins and NEVER loses when he has a 4th round lead. ARE you serious?

Unless he is winning 100% of the time, then no, it isn't too easy. If it was too easy, he wouldn't ever lose.

Well that is YOUR definition of easy, not mine

if it was easy, would he land in the rough and bogey some holes?
your definition of easy is obviously flawed if you think the sport is 'easy' for him. Now sure, some specific courses are easy, but when he screws up even at those places, that proves there is still a chance of error when he swings that club. But it's not chance. If he doesn't line his body up perfectly, he is introducing a possibility of screwing up. A champion has to read everything about the environment and himself, that is the constant challenge of the game. If you misread your own body cues, you will screw up greatly. That is why EVERY golfer has bad days and will every now and then, or some more than others, land in the rough or in hazards. Bad reads, be it from the environment or your body.
Golf is a helluva challenging sport once you reach the pro level. The challenge never lets up, just how much you perfect your ability will help your score. But the challenge constantly exists.

How do you know what a champion has to do? Are you one?

Why are you claiming it's easy to be a champion, are you one?

I asked If it seems to be easy for Woods. No i am not.

No, he was claiming to know what a champion is thinking. If he isn't a champion how would he know?

Why would you speculate about whether or not it's easy for him? Do you know him personally? Are you Woods posting in disguise?
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: bignateyk
uhh.. tiger is the only reason that many people even watch the game to start with. Trust me, without tiger, the tour would lose quite a bit of popularity.

Your nuts, get out of this thread. I've been watching golf since the 60s and i know many people who have been watching for years. You don't know what you are talking about.


Yeah, and you were the only 3 people. If you don't think Tiger has been a huge draw for non-golf fans, then you've spent too much time with the ball washer (I don't even know what that means).

I see so if Woods suddenly left golf the sport would be kaput. Ok if you say so.


you are a fucking retard. NOWHERE did he say that or even hint at it.

IF Woods retired viewership would go down. wich means the purse's would go down. not to mention the number of tournaments.

I find your name calling objectionable. I don't care how many people watch golf. I don't care how big the purses are. I asked a simple question in a poll and you and some others are trying to derail the thread. CUT IT OUT. If you don't think winning on the tour is easy for Woods, fine, say so, because that is the thread TOPIC, not purses or fan viewership.
 

Patt

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I'll now be leaving this thread because of the lack of coherent thoughts from the OP, and his incessant whining, and 'superior' attitude.

OUT.