woman killed by pit bull

[DaTT]

I dont need to know anything, I was wondering if DaTT knows how strong these dogs are.

I have wrestled a 240lbs Irish Wolfhound.

I understand they are strong, not doubting that. I am saying, in a life or death situation, I would win.

 

[WelshBloke]

in the hood is where a lot of the rescues come from and they are trained to be guard dogs hence they are violent. it's just a fact.

You're just fixating on training and ignoring breed.

When getting a dog for a task training and breed are important.

You dont get a yorkie and train it up for herding sheep. You pick a dog breed for that then train it up.

In the same way that if you want to get something that bites things to death you get a breed thats made for that and train it up.

 

[lxskllr]

I have wrestled a 240lbs Irish Wolfhound.

I understand they are strong, not doubting that. I am saying, in a life or death situation, I would win.

Wrestled like having fun, or wrestled like the hound wanted to eat your face. There's a huuuge difference, and there's no mistaking the roles.

 

[DaTT]

A 75lb Mountain Lion would eat you like a triscut, I imagine.

Or a Badger, Wolverine, Shark, Baboon etc.

Mountain Lion's are much bigger than 75lbs. A shark?, I'm out of my natural habitat. You don't fuck with monkeys. Badger or wolverine?...get punted for a field goal.

 

[WelshBloke]

I have wrestled a 240lbs Irish Wolfhound.

I understand they are strong, not doubting that. I am saying, in a life or death situation, I would win.

I'd way rather wrestle a wolfhound.

Sighthounds are no where near as strong as the big fighting terriers.

Edit: I'm pretty sure that I could handle a wolfhound and I'm a giant pussy.

 

[DaTT]

Wrestled like having fun, or wrestled like the hound wanted to eat your face. There's a huuuge difference, and there's no mistaking the roles.

I understand. I was simply answering the question that was asked. I have never been in a "fight" with a dog, but I wouldn't lose. Not saying I wouldn't get away unscathed, but I would certainly still be breathing.

 

[dr150]

I have wrestled a 240lbs Irish Wolfhound.

I understand they are strong, not doubting that. I am saying, in a life or death situation, I would win.

You're spewing some serious ignorance dude.

They're called Pitt Bulls for a reason. They're bred to take bulls down at the legs...even if they get mortally injured they will come at you until they die. ABSOLUTE PERSEVERANCE.

They have a jaw that clamps and doesn't let go...even if you thumb it in the eye or punch it in the nose.

.....You step into a death match ring with a Pitt trained to fight, I'll put my 401k that you don't walk out alive. That's a fact.

 

[DaTT]

You're spewing some serious ignorance dude.

They're called Pitt Bulls for a reason. They're bred to take bulls down at the legs...even if they get mortally injured they will come at you until they die. ABSOLUTE PERSEVERANCE.

They have a jaw that clamps and doesn't let go...even if you thumb it in the eye or punch it in the nose.

.....You step into a death match ring with a Pitt trained to fight, I'll put my 401k that you don't walk out alive. That's a fact.

And you don't think the human instinct to survive is strong?

If you don't think you could survive against a medium size dog attack, turn in your man card.

 

[KeithP]

Yeah, right.

Rescuing a Yorkie or a Chihuahua will get ya killed.

The breed is irrelevant. He didn't say the size and strength of the animal was irrelevant. If you can't understand the difference, please, never post again...anywhere. Thanks.

-KeithP

 

[WelshBloke]

The breed is irrelevant. He didn't say the size and strength of the animal was irrelevant. If you can't understand the difference, please, never post again...anywhere. Thanks.

-KeithP

Surely the size and strength of a dog directly relates to its breed?

 

[MongGrel]

The breed is irrelevant. He didn't say the size and strength of the animal was irrelevant. If you can't understand the difference, please, never post again...anywhere. Thanks.

-KeithP

Have a nice day.

 

[BW86]

You're spewing some serious ignorance dude.

They're called Pitt Bulls for a reason. They're bred to take bulls down at the legs...even if they get mortally injured they will come at you until they die. ABSOLUTE PERSEVERANCE.

They have a jaw that clamps and doesn't let go...even if you thumb it in the eye or punch it in the nose.

.....You step into a death match ring with a Pitt trained to fight, I'll put my 401k that you don't walk out alive. That's a fact.

what? lol - no

A pitbull has NO chance of taking down a bull. Maybe a pack of pitbulls MAYBE. Your thinking of bull-baiting and the bulldog was bred for that and even then they don't take a bull down.

Their jaws are no different then other dogs around their size.

 

[dr150]

And you don't think the human instinct to survive is strong?

If you don't think you could survive against a medium size dog attack, turn in your man card.

My man card is safe cuz I ain't mixing it up with a Pitt fighter.

....I'll take yours, though, from your bloody wallet after the match and post it here in the Darwin Awards thread.

A pitbull has NO chance of taking down a bull. Maybe a pack of pitbulls MAYBE.

Of course, in packs. That's rather obvious.

 

[WelshBloke]

And you don't think the human instinct to survive is strong?

You can pit your instinct and feeble teeth, claws and understanding of the damage being done to you against and animal with a fearsome set of weapons and no fear at all about what you may do to it.

If you don't think you could survive against a medium size dog attack, turn in your man card.

Now you may have kevlar reinforced arms and neck (and balls, because I've tussled with a few that will naturally go for those first) that are immune from dog bites, but most people dont.

You started off this sub thread by saying that you dont understand how...

It's always terrible when I hear about these things....but I always have to wonder, how could this human not overpower the dog?

You might be this kevlar reinforced, balless wonder but most people aren't.


And if you've never tangled with a big fighting dog you have no idea how it would go. (and a big fragile sighthound gives you absolutely no perspective on it).

 

[edro]

Thank god for this thread.
The other pit bull love thread was full of ignorance.

Pit bulls are more dangerous than most other dogs.
You are playing with fire and you're going to get burned.

 

[DaTT]

You can pit your instinct and feeble teeth, claws and understanding of the damage being done to you against and animal with a fearsome set of weapons and no fear at all about what you may do to it.



Now you may have kevlar reinforced arms and neck (and balls, because I've tussled with a few that will naturally go for those first) that are immune from dog bites, but most people dont.

You started off this sub thread by saying that you dont understand how...



You might be this kevlar reinforced, balless wonder but most people aren't.


And if you've never tangled with a big fighting dog you have no idea how it would go. (and a big fragile sighthound gives you absolutely no perspective on it).

You seem to have a pretty clear idea that Pitbull's are the end all be all fighting machine that can undoubtedly take down anything in it's path. You don't know me. I know me, and I know I would not let a Pitbull kill me.

And just because a dog bites you, doesn't mean you instantly die and stop fighting as you have insinuated in the above post.

 

[ControlD]

I think lots of people feel like they could handle themselves when confronted by a vicious dog, but I have a feeling they wouldn't fare much better than the woman this thread was referencing. A couple of years ago a very fit man, triathlete, got attacked by a cane corso (another breed that should be kept by nobody) on the same trail I run on and he just got away with his life by jumping into a nearly freezing river. Of course the same old story came out afterwards. "He was such a sweet dog. I don't know what provoked him". I know for a fact that there are good pit bulls out there. Still, I wouldn't take the chance. Especially if there are kids around. You might come away alive but you won't come away un-maimed.

 

[WelshBloke]

You seem to have a pretty clear idea that Pitbull's are the end all be all fighting machine that can undoubtedly take down anything in it's path. You don't know me. I know me, and I know I would not let a Pitbull kill me.

You're right I have no idea about you. But your first statement was...

It's always terrible when I hear about these things....but I always have to wonder, how could this human not overpower the dog?

So its not about superhuman, dog slayer you.

But again, you have no frame of reference for this.

And just because a dog bites you, doesn't mean you instantly die and stop fighting as you have insinuated in the above post.

How much fight do you think you'd have left after having your balls torn off and one arm not working?

 

[DaTT]

I think lots of people feel like they could handle themselves when confronted by a vicious dog, but I have a feeling they wouldn't fare much better than the woman this thread was referencing. A couple of years ago a very fit man, triathlete, got attacked by a cane corso (another breed that should be kept by nobody) on the same trail I run on and he just got away with his life by jumping into a nearly freezing river. Of course the same old story came out afterwards. "He was such a sweet dog. I don't know what provoked him". I know for a fact that there are good pit bulls out there. Still, I wouldn't take the chance. Especially if there are kids around. You might come away alive but you won't come away un-maimed.

I stated this in an earlier post.

 

[MongGrel]

I've even had a few Huskies and Samoyed in the past, just sitting on the couch petting them while watching TV at the time and watching them demolish a big chew bone next to me while petting them made me ponder how bad it would be if one lunged at your throat.

Wolves have serious clamp force, really serious.

Would probably rip out your throat in a split second.

 

[DaTT]

You're right I have no idea about you. But your first statement was...

So its not about superhuman, dog slayer you.

But again, you have no frame of reference for this.



How much fight do you think you'd have left after having your balls torn off and one arm not working?

I'm not saying I'm the only one in the world...shit, I bet even you could walk away from a Pitbull attack...unless you would curl up an die at the first bite you got, which is exactly how you seem to think it would go down.

How much fight is left in the dog when it can't see due to my thumbs popping his eyes, several hard punches to the head....and maybe I bite his balls off before he gets mine?

You mentioned earlier that "I would not know how it would go", why do you keep claiming that you know how it would go? What makes you so sure?

 

[WelshBloke]

How much fight is left in the dog when it can't see due to my thumbs popping his eyes, several hard punches to the head....and maybe I bite his balls off before he gets mine?

You mentioned earlier that "I would not know how it would go", why do you keep claiming that you know how it would go? What makes you so sure?

I know exactly how much those things would bother a pit bull in a rage.

Its pretty obvious that you dont.

 

[MongGrel]

I'm not saying I'm the only one in the world...shit, I bet even you could walk away from a Pitbull attack...unless you would curl up an die at the first bite you got, which is exactly how you seem to think it would go down.

How much fight is left in the dog when it can't see due to my thumbs popping his eyes, several hard punches to the head....and maybe I bite his balls off before he gets mine?

You mentioned earlier that "I would not know how it would go", why do you keep claiming that you know how it would go? What makes you so sure?

When a Pit Bull, "best friend" would just jump at your throat from out of no where and rip it out, you would not have time to do a thing.

Sorry about your fantasies.

It's really not even about a Pitbull attack really, it's more like a "trusted" pet surprising you out of nowhere and going on a rampage.

They have a history of that type of behavior, unlike many other breeds of dogs in that category.

A pissed off Pit Bull probably would not give a shit if you parked a hydraulic hammer on it's head to be honest, after you gauged it's eyes or until it was dead.

 

[DaTT]

I know exactly how much those things would bother a pit bull in a rage.

Its pretty obvious that you dont.

So you have poked out a Pitbulls eye's and bit off his balls?

I don't see what's so hard to agree on here, why are you so dead set on my dying against a little dog? How are you going to protect a family one day...your family, if you don't have the self confidence that you could take down a Pitbull.

 

[DaTT]

When a Pit Bull would just jump at your throat from out of no where and rip it out, you would not have time to do a thing.

Sorry about your fantasies.

LOL, you block your throat, they aren't faster than your reflexes.

Sorry about all you people who would let a 75lbs. animal send you to your grave.