woman killed by pit bull

[JulesMaximus]

I would never own a Pit Bull.

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

I would never own a Pit Bull.

I sure as hell wouldn't either, I mean think of the liability alone...let alone having it impact where you can live, the cost per month to feed a large animal, etc. The liability though, you can't let that thing kill another person's dog or bite someone's kid or you're going to jail, or at least paying a ton of money.

I really think they should be outlawed due to the stupidity of the type of people who own them. I hate worrying about if I'll run across one when I walk my dog or take it to the park. However, I have known several pitbulls in my life and they have been completely harmless and cute. Anyways, as others have said it just takes one time and you are fucked as well as the victim.

 

[gururu2]

one day someone is going to invent a gun for dogs. then people with pit bulls and guns are going to say "guns don't kill dogs"

 

[shortylickens]

Never hear about people killed by their kitties.

Cats erase their evidence.

 

[MrSquished]

https://www.cesarsway.com/about-dogs/pit-bulls/how-did-pit-bulls-get-a-bad-rap

 

[MrSquished]

these dogs should be registered as deadly weapons. owners should be forced to take a course with basic training, get them fixed, and be forced to make sure they can be leashed with a collar at all times and carry a break stick.

if you see one of these dogs with an owner that doesn't have a way to strap the dog up and a break stick, simply stay away.

these dogs do not care if you hit them, spray water on them, cover them with blankets or even if your limbs get in the way of a fight, they have tunnel vision. picking them up by their hind legs won't do it either.

i had to deal with this with family members in the last year. a 60 and 80 pounder. i'm 250+ pounds and multiple situations i was forced into really opened my eyes, these dogs didn't give a crap about me in the moment and would destroy to the death.

i was lucky enough to break them up with a shovel and restraints on the collar, you have to wedge something in the back side of their mouths so they rebite, otherwise you will not stop them.

i also witnessed these dogs start to change a year+ into their life. i thought they were cool with kids, etc. as well as me. i started to see things that convinced me you just can't trust these dogs. you can't truly control them or hinder them flipping out if you will have any human/animal contact.

i won't even dare go up to them anymore unless im armed. i won't let them lick my face, etc. you basically have to be on edge and be able to kill them quickly or stay away.

i seen these guys flip out without so much as a groul or warning in demeanor after being in their space for a long time, even when you think you know them and they appear to be cool with you.

do you live in the ghetto or some shitty rural area?

 

[Brian Stirling]

I live in an apartment that permits pets and every once in a while we get a tenant with a pit or two. I've never seen them last more than 3 months and the minimum lease is a year.

The last ones we had, about a year ago, the woman had a certain trailer park look to her and she was abusive to the dogs when walking them.

The problem with pits is you have no control over the OWNERS and it's the owners that make 99% of the difference. A pit raised in a loving family can be a wonderful pet, even with children, but when raised by criminal or trailer park types they are all too often deadly weapons. They are not just the most dangerous dog breed they are far and away the most dangerous dog breed.

But, as has been mentioned, for the criminal and trailer park types they provide a gun like weapon without a gun so if you're not legally allowed to own a gun because you're a felon a pit serves the bill quite nicely.

I was in NYC some time back and we stopped at a park in the Bronx's to take a rest. I young man with a pit came into the park and he hung a rope from a tree limb. The pit jump up and bit down on the rope and hung in mid air for about 15 minutes. They have jaws like a hydraulic press and you will not be able to open there mouths -- it's not humanly possible without using tools.


Brian

 

[brainhulk]

if one pit bull is a savage killer, does that mean the majority are?

would it be canine racism to generalize and paint them all with the same brush?

 

[MongGrel]

do you live in the ghetto or some shitty rural area?

You're really just starting to sound really ignorant.

Again.

if one pit bull is a savage killer, does that mean the majority are?

would it be canine racism to generalize and paint them all with the same brush?

As are you.

 

[MongGrel]

Cats erase their evidence.

Yeah, they are sneaky little guys.

 

[WelshBloke]

https://www.cesarsway.com/about-dogs/pit-bulls/how-did-pit-bulls-get-a-bad-rap

Thats a terrible article. It contradicts its self and doesnt look into any facts that it doesnt like.

It says "However, as the breed spread to Americans and Americans spread across the continent, pit bulls began to be put to their original use, as general purpose herding and working dogs." just after saying that it wasnt a real breed long before and never mentioning that it was used as a "general purpose herding dog" (pretty much every use before this statement involves it biting things).

Are there records of which dog breed is responsible for attacks before the 80's? If so what is the break down of number of attacks by breed to number of dogs of each breed kept?

I get that you like the breed but, really, look at the reality of things. The whole "But he was such a gentle animal before this!" cliche is a cliche for a reason.

 

[WelshBloke]

if one pit bull is a savage killer, does that mean the majority are?

Can you tell the difference between the ones that are and the ones that aren't?

 

[DaTT]

It's always terrible when I hear about these things....but I always have to wonder, how could this human not overpower the dog?

I am 100% sure I would win in a life or death fight against a Pitbull.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's always terrible when I hear about these things....but I always have to wonder, how could this human not overpower the dog?

I am 100% sure I would win in a life or death fight against a Pitbull.

Have you ever wrestled with a big one?

 

[Brian Stirling]

It's always terrible when I hear about these things....but I always have to wonder, how could this human not overpower the dog?

I am 100% sure I would win in a life or death fight against a Pitbull.

One of the most popular police dogs is the Malinois which is about the same size as a pit but not nearly as powerful in the jaws as a pit. There are very few bad guys that win against a single Malinois and we're talking big criminal thug types that would likely toss you around like a rag doll.

You have no idea what you're talking about -- not a clue!


Brian

 

[DaTT]

Have you ever wrestled with a big one?

75lbs on the extreme large end of the spectrum...yup, don't think I would be the one getting hauled off by a coroner.

 

[DaTT]

One of the most popular police dogs is the Malinois which is about the same size as a pit but not nearly as powerful in the jaws as a pit. There are very few bad guys that win against a single Malinois and we're talking big criminal thug types that would likely toss you around like a rag doll.

You have no idea what you're talking about -- not a clue!


Brian

LOL, ok. You're a giant pussy if you would let a 75lbs animal kill you. And as said above....75lbs is on the EXTREME large end of the scale. Not usually that big.

 

[WelshBloke]

75lbs on the extreme large end of the spectrum...yup, don't think I would be the one getting hauled off by a coroner.

Seriously. Have you ever wrestled with one?

 

[Brian Stirling]

LOL, ok. You're a giant pussy if you would let a 75lbs animal kill you. And as said above....75lbs is on the EXTREME large end of the scale. Not usually that big.

You know, you should look into a pay-per-view event with you and a large aggressive pit bull that's been poorly treated by it's criminal owner. Could be very entertaining.


Brian

 

[BW86]

Seriously. Have you ever wrestled with one?

I always wrestle around with my 80lb pitbull. What do you want to know?

He's a fatboy - needs to lose a few lbs.

 

[WelshBloke]

I always wrestle around with my 80lb pitbull. What do you want to know?

I dont need to know anything, I was wondering if DaTT knows how strong these dogs are.

 

[MongGrel]

LOL, ok. You're a giant pussy if you would let a 75lbs animal kill you. And as said above....75lbs is on the EXTREME large end of the scale. Not usually that big.

A 75lb Mountain Lion would eat you like a triscut, I imagine.

Or a Badger, Wolverine, Shark, Baboon etc.

 

[twinrider1]

I love dogs, but I don't think anyone should own a dog they cannot absolutely control physically.
Quoting myself from the recent pit-mix rescue thread.

I don't think Pits are any less stable. They're just capable of doing more damage than most breed when they do attack.

 

[dr150]

these dogs should be registered as deadly weapons. owners should be forced to take a course with basic training, get them fixed, and be forced to make sure they can be leashed with a collar at all times and carry a break stick.

if you see one of these dogs with an owner that doesn't have a way to strap the dog up and a break stick, simply stay away.

these dogs do not care if you hit them, spray water on them, cover them with blankets or even if your limbs get in the way of a fight, they have tunnel vision. picking them up by their hind legs won't do it either.

i had to deal with this with family members in the last year. a 60 and 80 pounder. i'm 250+ pounds and multiple situations i was forced into really opened my eyes, these dogs didn't give a crap about me in the moment and would destroy to the death.

i was lucky enough to break them up with a shovel and restraints on the collar, you have to wedge something in the back side of their mouths so they rebite, otherwise you will not stop them.

i also witnessed these dogs start to change a year+ into their life. i thought they were cool with kids, etc. as well as me. i started to see things that convinced me you just can't trust these dogs. you can't truly control them or hinder them flipping out if you will have any human/animal contact.

i won't even dare go up to them anymore unless im armed. i won't let them lick my face, etc. you basically have to be on edge and be able to kill them quickly or stay away.

i seen these guys flip out without so much as a groul or warning in demeanor after being in their space for a long time, even when you think you know them and they appear to be cool with you.

Bingo.

You. Just. Can't. Trust.

Pitts have this "flip out" behavior that comes out of nowhere. You may think you know your dog, but you have no control when they decide to bite. Their behavior is stealth, they don't telegraph with hostile barking, etc, they just stealth bite.

....And when they DO bite, God help you, b/c those jaws are vices.

NOT WORTH OWNING......And IF you do....then you better get a fuckload of liability insurance!

 

[MrSquished]

You're really just starting to sound really ignorant.

in the hood is where a lot of the rescues come from and they are trained to be guard dogs hence they are violent. it's just a fact.

you can see this by looking at different animal shelters in an area, like i have been doing a lot of in NNJ and NYC. the more suburban wealthy towns don't have many pits at there shelters. whereas a place like Newark NJ it's close to 99% are pits or pit mixes.