Wisconsin court upholds voter ID law

[Cozarkian]

the issue isn't requiring an ID, the issue is charging for an ID and any required papers to go along with it. ... the only voter ID laws that have passed the courts have been ones that do a reasonable job of offering an ID for free.

If the issue is already reasonably resolved by the law itself, then there is no issue.

 

[John Connor]

Why are you going threw my girl friends purse? The mere fact you thought of a tampon means you must use them. LMAO!

 

[Texashiker]

Poll tax. EOT. You regressives are so 1950's. Stop trying disenfranchising legal, American born citizens. Why do you hate America so much?

As a US citizen it is your civic duty to carry some form of id and to vote.

Is it really that difficult?

I bet you have some kind of id in your wallet?

This is exactly why you are viewed as a joke. Someone gives you specific information refuting your parroted talking points. You ignore it all and reply with another unthinking talking point.

I do not ignore it, I just stand by my morals and values.

If democrats had their way, illegals would be sent straight to the polls while the middle class is taxed to support the new found voting class.

Walk across the river, go to that voting booth, vote democrat, and then sign up for your welfare at the next room.

Who is going to pay for that? Certainly not going to be your new voters.

 

[Cozarkian]

As a US citizen it is your civic duty to carry some form of id and to vote.

No and no.

As a US citizen, it is your civic duty to make a reasonable effort to understand the qualifications of candidates before voting. It is your civic duty to refrain from voting on any issue or office for which you were unable or unwilling to obtain sufficient information to make an educated choice.

There is no civic duty to carry an ID at all times. However, that does not mean the government shouldn't require ID for certain activities/situations.

 

[her209]

As a US citizen it is your civic duty to carry some form of id and to vote.

Do you have to carry some form of ID while scuba diving?

 

[Texashiker]

There is no civic duty to carry an ID at all times. However, that does not mean the government shouldn't require ID for certain activities/situations.

And that ladies and gentlemen is how we get unidentified bodies.

Do you have to carry some form of ID while scuba diving?

I do not know of any underwater voting booths?

 

[her209]

I do not know of any underwater voting booths?

Why would that matter?

Your quote:

"As a US citizen it is your civic duty to carry some form of id and to vote."

The AND implies that one needs to carry some form of ID at all times not just when voting. Had you meant only while voting, your sentence would be:

"As a US citizen it is your civic duty to carry some form of id and to vote."

 

[spacejamz]

Can someone please explain how minorities, elderly and the poor (the groups who probably need the most government assistance) who cannot afford to get an ID receive any type of government assistance or benefits if they don't have a government issued ID?

Pretty ironic that you need to have a government ID to enroll in and use Obamacare which helps mainly helps seniors, the poor and minorities and they are the groups most likely to not have IDs...

anyone??

 

[John Connor]

How can you not afford an ID?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

anyone??

It's been covered already in this thread. Those programs offer many alternatives to government issued photo ID when it comes to identifying. The voter ID laws that are being passed do not.

Just as I can get a job, fill out an I-9 and pay taxes and still not have the ID that allows me to do all of those things be sufficient to vote.

 

[Bowfinger]

anyone??

The same way as has been explained in all the other threads about these voter suppression laws, at least some of which you've posted in. If you ignored the answer in all those other threads, it is highly unlikely you'll accept it now. Regardless, the fact remains that these laws objectively do more harm than good, disenfranchising orders of magnitude more legitimate voters than preventing illegitimate vote attempts.

 

[Bowfinger]

I do not ignore it, I just stand by my morals and values.

Of course you ignored it. You consistently ignore facts that challenge your emotional beliefs. Your purported "morals and values" are an excuse you use to justify ignorance and prejudice.

If democrats had their way, illegals would be sent straight to the polls while the middle class is taxed to support the new found voting class.

Walk across the river, go to that voting booth, vote democrat, and then sign up for your welfare at the next room.

Who is going to pay for that? Certainly not going to be your new voters.

Yawn. That's a perfect example of you substituting dishonesty and prejudice for facts. This isn't about letting illegals vote. It's about letting American citizens keep their right to vote even if they are elderly, students, minorities, or poor. Your so-called "morals" would deny them this right just so your party can win elections more easily. Your morals suck.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

How can you not afford an ID?

As has been explained ad nauseam every time one of these threads come up there are many reasons why the steps necessary to get an ID can be burdensome and costly to someone while it prevents nothing.

The GOP themselves have admitted in court that voter ID laws won't prevent any fraud. It's pointless.

 

[bshole]

The same way as has been explained in all the other threads about these voter suppression laws, at least some of which you've posted in. If you ignored the answer in all those other threads, it is highly unlikely you'll accept it now. Regardless, the fact remains that these laws objectively do more harm than good, disenfranchising orders of magnitude more legitimate voters than preventing illegitimate vote attempts.

Well isn't that the real aim of the legislation? Conservatives believe that they can suppress the liberal vote by doing this (though they don't admit it). Voter suppression laws like this may help conservatives in the short term but eventually they will have no effect or a net negative effect if there is liberal backlash.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Well isn't that the real aim of the legislation? Conservatives believe that they can suppress the liberal vote by doing this (though they don't admit it). Voter suppression laws like this may help conservatives in the short term but eventually they will have no effect or a net negative effect if there is liberal backlash.

Well, one did indirectly admit in a few years back.

"Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Wow, I never realized that only Democratic leaning voters lack IDs and all Republican leaning voters had IDs.

 

[Texashiker]

Wow, I never realized that only Democratic leaning voters lack IDs and all Republican leaning voters had IDs.

Who is more likely to have a job, own a vehicle, pay taxes, own property, take personal responsibility seriously,,,, democrats worried about their welfare checks and food tamps, or working middle class republicans?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

How can you not afford an ID?

Irrelevant. The 24th Amendment made it illegal to require a fee or tax to vote for Federal elections, and Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections extended that protection to all state elections. If the ID cards carried ANY cost, they could be viewed as a poll tax and deemed unconstitutional. Consequently, the state will have to foot the bill to provide them free of charge (which just means it gets pushed to the taxpayers, naturally).

 

[MrPickins]

I do not ignore it, I just stand by my morals and values

By that you mean you stick your fingers in your ears and hum to yourself anytime your arguments are refuted?

 

[Bowfinger]

Well isn't that the real aim of the legislation? Conservatives believe that they can suppress the liberal vote by doing this (though they don't admit it). Voter suppression laws like this may help conservatives in the short term but eventually they will have no effect or a net negative effect if there is liberal backlash.

Yes, exactly. The cost/benefit analysis fails only if you accept the proponents' claims at face value: preventing (virtually non-existant, in person) vote fraud. If you consider the real motive -- disenfranchising left-leaning demographics -- the CBA suddenly makes perfect sense.

 

[MrPickins]

Who is more likely to have a job, own a vehicle, pay taxes, own property, take personal responsibility seriously,,,, democrats worried about their welfare checks and food tamps, or working middle class republicans?

God, you're dumb.

Do you really think that all (or even most) Democrats are like that?


Open your eyes and get past your stereotypes. I know it's hard getting out of your little box, though.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Who is more likely to have a job, own a vehicle, pay taxes, own property, take personal responsibility seriously,,,, democrats worried about their welfare checks and food tamps, or working middle class republicans?

How's your current employment status toothless?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Who is more likely to have a job, own a vehicle, pay taxes, own property, take personal responsibility seriously,,,, democrats worried about their welfare checks and food tamps, or working middle class republicans?

SMFH!!!! Yet another stupid answer or post from you. You may want to start filtering the water you drink as it appears it could be causing mental issues.

 

[Oldgamer]

Score for justice.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/court-upholds-wisconsin-voter-id-law-scotus-mulls-case



If someone is too lazy to get an ID, they do not need to be voting in the first place.

Yea but Virginia just got shot down on their over gerry mandering..lol

I really think you don't want people to vote. You really do believe all the crap that poor, elderly and minorities are lazy huh?

 

[Bowfinger]

God, you're dumb.

Do you really think that all (or even most) Democrats are like that?


Open your eyes and get past your stereotypes. I know it's hard getting out of your little box, though.

It was noteworthy that he accidentally confirmed he is perfectly happy to discriminate against Americans who differ from him. Granted, he based it on a ridiculous stereotype, but he endorses discrimination against that stereotype. Such is the face of so many modern Republicans, putting party above country. Their so-called "morals and values" are victory at all costs, lying and cheating are fair game.