Win 10 Install and Upgrade-Preview Future Release 1703. Aka Creators Edition.

[Puffnstuff]

MS is using an agile approach with 10 so constant updates are completely normal.

 

[sm625]

I restarted my upgrade at 8am today. After 5 hours it is at 99% after moving roughly 1% per half hour after passing 90%. GG microsoft... It might have something to do with this being a virtually fresh win 7 install. There are well over 100 updates that it wants to download, but my thinking is why update it with win 7 patches when it is updating to win 10 which probably has all those patches already? At any rate I am now stuck wondering if this thing is even going to finish after a full 8 hour day. It hasnt even begun the actual installation yet. It is only 99% done with "Getting your upgrade ready"

 

[Ketchup]

If anyone is updating to 10 from a fresh Windows 7 install, make sure you are following the instructions in the stickied "Fix for Windows 7 update" thread.

 

[Ketchup]

You could also try getting KB30335583 on its own and see if that speeds up the process.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...e/a9fded97-a62a-4f24-9168-3cac1b30a878?auth=1

 

[RampantAndroid]

I restarted my upgrade at 8am today. After 5 hours it is at 99% after moving roughly 1% per half hour after passing 90%. GG microsoft... It might have something to do with this being a virtually fresh win 7 install. There are well over 100 updates that it wants to download, but my thinking is why update it with win 7 patches when it is updating to win 10 which probably has all those patches already? At any rate I am now stuck wondering if this thing is even going to finish after a full 8 hour day. It hasnt even begun the actual installation yet. It is only 99% done with "Getting your upgrade ready"

Where was it stuck? Before it rebooted and went to the new UI, or after it rebooted? Never seen any machine take that long.

 

[Traxan]

Ok guess I'm getting no help on this one.

 

[Puffnstuff]

SM625 why did you refuse the updates? Win 7 updates have no relevance for 10 updates which contain improvements that would make the process work better. Since your 7 is a clean install why not use the media creation tool and clean install 10 using all available updates? I clean installed 10 which works far better than the upgrade from 8.1 that was on my tablet.

 

[Ketchup]

Ok guess I'm getting no help on this one.

Suggestion: jusy start your own thread. It is worth some attention. May first thought would be to undo all changes done by Do Not Spy, and possibly uninstall it.

 

[sm625]

I disabled the windows update service. The win 10 update process is now further along after 30 minutes than it was after 8 full hours of chugging yesterday. GG microsoft.

 

[sm625]

Since your 7 is a clean install why not use the media creation tool and clean install 10 using all available updates?

The sticky says

I.e., if One does fresh Install and have genuine legal version appropriate Win 7 key, there is No way to use this key to activate fresh Win 10.

The current way to go about it, is to Install plain vanilla Win 7 activate it, and the do an In-place Upgrade to Win 10

The way I read this, I should first do a in-place upgrade so that it will activate, and then do an optional clean install. This is what I plan on doing so I can switch from Win10-64 to Win10-32. (Unfortunately I actually need 32 bit for one of my hardware drivers to work.)

 

[Puffnstuff]

If you have the 7 key you can clean install 10 using it with the latest updates that allow for it. The original release didn't have this function which is now available with the updates which is why you should always get all available updates to an OS when performing an upgrade/clean installation. It works the same way regardless for both32/64 bit versions. I have to use the 32 bit on my tablet even though the hardware is 64 bit so I understand where you're coming from. If you have any questions post them and we'll try to answer them for you and good luck with your installation.

If you're current upgrade is successful just keep this information in mind for future reference and if it fails you know what to do to get around it. I had issues with my tablet not wanting to upgrade from 8.1 to 10 that required me to use the media creation tool to perform the upgrade in lieu of windows update and it worked perfectly for me which is why I suggested using it. I've performed several upgrades (7, 8.1) using the media creation tool and I prefer it over WU because it does work around many issues that are present in the current OS, however it cannot overcome some like 3rd party utilities that might be causing conflict.

 

[Eug]

If you have the 7 key you can clean install 10 using it with the latest updates that allow for it. The original release didn't have this function which is now available with the updates which is why you should always get all available updates to an OS when performing an upgrade/clean installation. It works the same way regardless for both32/64 bit versions. I have to use the 32 bit on my tablet even though the hardware is 64 bit so I understand where you're coming from. If you have any questions post them and we'll try to answer them for you and good luck with your installation.

If you're current upgrade is successful just keep this information in mind for future reference and if it fails you know what to do to get around it. I had issues with my tablet not wanting to upgrade from 8.1 to 10 that required me to use the media creation tool to perform the upgrade in lieu of windows update and it worked perfectly for me which is why I suggested using it. I've performed several upgrades (7, 8.1) using the media creation tool and I prefer it over WU because it does work around many issues that are present in the current OS, however it cannot overcome some like 3rd party utilities that might be causing conflict.

Should this work with all installs? I had a clone of a freshly installed Win 10 for my laptop lying around and I'm wanting to upgrade my desktop to Win 10 too. So on a lark I just installed the drive in the desktop and it worked after it did some auto-configuration, to my surprise.

Not surprisingly though, this copy of Win 10 in this desktop is not activated. However, when I enter my Win 7 key for the desktop, that won't activate it. It says the product key won't work. I dread the idea of going through the Win 7 install process again just to upgrade to Win 10, especially since my install discs include all sort of bloatware that I have go back and manually delete after the fact.

This is a laptop platter drive, and I plan on picking up an SSD tomorrow. If I can get this to activate, then I'll just Acronis clone it over to the SSD. If I can't get this to activate, then I'll have to install Win 7 from scratch on the SSD and then do the upgrade.

EDIT:

Hmmm... Win 10 updates had installed and the computer had rebooted, so I assumed the updates were finished. That doesn't seem to be case. It is still updating. So maybe the Win 7 key compatible Win 10 version isn't installed yet. We shall see.

EDIT again:

After the second round of updates, the Win 7 key works! Perfect. This is definitely not the way I expected to install Windows 10. I wonder if I will suffer any ill effects by using a laptop install.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Glad it worked out for you Eug and thanks for reporting back so others will be able to see the steps you went through. If all available updates were acquired during the installation process your 7 key should've worked up front which is what MS intended when the made the change. Since you were able to activate it you'll never have to use the key again when performing a clean installation on that hardware and can skip that step in the future which is super nice.

 

[Dahak]

@Eug,

do you recall if the install on the drive you swapped was the 1511/November Release?
if not that could be why it did not work originally and only worked after the updates

 

[Eug]

@Eug,

do you recall if the install on the drive you swapped was the 1511/November Release?
if not that could be why it did not work originally and only worked after the updates

It didn't have the 1511 release. However, I initiated the update, which included the 1511 build. The update downloaded for a long time and then a long install and said it was updated, so I assumed 1511 was installed. Apparently that was not the case. The 1511 update was the last step and was taking a very long time to download, in the background.

Once that downloaded and installed, the new key worked fine.

I guess it took that long partially because of the size of the download, and because I'm running it off a laptop drive.

P.S. That partition is only 55 GB. I think I may keep it around as a backup clean install. I wonder if now that I have 1511 install and it's configured for my desktop, if that 1511 clean install will work for my laptop too. Mind you maybe it's time to replace the laptop. Even with Win 10 installed it's way too slow. I bought it 2009. (My main laptop is a Mac, which ironically I also purchased in 2009.)

Glad it worked out for you Eug and thanks for reporting back so others will be able to see the steps you went through. If all available updates were acquired during the installation process your 7 key should've worked up front which is what MS intended when the made the change. Since you were able to activate it you'll never have to use the key again when performing a clean installation on that hardware and can skip that step in the future which is super nice.

Yep.

 

[JackMDS]

1155 of Nov 2015 was a Major release, sort of comparable to Old style SP releases.


Most of the Win 10 ISOs that are floating around are the Nov. 1150 release.

Since then there were many Updates. Some are Just Fixes, and some include Fixes and New features.

The way to see what One have is to do Control Panel / System, pull down the help form the top bar and click on About.

494 is the most current release to Regular users. The Insiders probably have the Next one.

If the number is smaller than it means that One does not have the most current Update.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Is there any new word on when Redstone will be released? I keep seeing the end of this month on the anniversary date being kicked around but that was posted several months ago.

 

[JackMDS]

Is there any new word on when Redstone will be released? I keep seeing the end of this month on the anniversary date being kicked around but that was posted several months ago.

As of July 7 2015.

http://arstechnica.com/information-...ersary-update-nears-rtm-with-bugfixes-galore/

 

[Hugh Jass]

Is there any new word on when Redstone will be released? I keep seeing the end of this month on the anniversary date being kicked around but that was posted several months ago.

August 2nd.

 

[Eug]

Dammit, the clone from the HD (55 GB partition) to the SSD (250 GB) didn't work. DOS Acronis 2015 failed, so then I installed the Windows version and that failed too. What a waste of cash.

As suggested, I'm just going to download the Win 10 ISO and reinstall to the SSD fresh.

EDIT:

Gotta love it. There is no way to mount an SSD in this particular case in the drive bay. I checked out five different 2.5" to 3.5" mounting brackets. None of them replicate all the mounting options of a hard drive, specifically, the four mounting holes on the bottom of 3.5" drives. So I guess I'll have to velcro it in or something, or use double sided foam tape.

 

[Ichinisan]

Dammit, the clone from the HD (55 GB partition) to the SSD (250 GB) didn't work. DOS Acronis 2015 failed, so then I installed the Windows version and that failed too. What a waste of cash.

As suggested, I'm just going to download the Win 10 ISO and reinstall to the SSD fresh.

EDIT:

Gotta love it. There is no way to mount an SSD in this particular case in the drive bay. I checked out five different 2.5" to 3.5" mounting brackets. None of them replicate all the mounting options of a hard drive, specifically, the four mounting holes on the bottom of 3.5" drives. So I guess I'll have to velcro it in or something, or use double sided foam tape.

I like stealthing an SSD on the motherboard side of the case between the tray and that side panel.

 

[Eug]

The Windows ISO refuses to install from the DVD. It says I'm missing a driver.

I'll give this one more shot and try installing from bootable USB and if that fails I guess I will have to reinstall Win 7 and upgrade from there.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Dammit, the clone from the HD (55 GB partition) to the SSD (250 GB) didn't work. DOS Acronis 2015 failed, so then I installed the Windows version and that failed too. What a waste of cash.

As suggested, I'm just going to download the Win 10 ISO and reinstall to the SSD fresh.

EDIT:

Gotta love it. There is no way to mount an SSD in this particular case in the drive bay. I checked out five different 2.5" to 3.5" mounting brackets. None of them replicate all the mounting options of a hard drive, specifically, the four mounting holes on the bottom of 3.5" drives. So I guess I'll have to velcro it in or something, or use double sided foam tape.

You can mount the ssd any old way you want to without affecting it. I've mounted them sideways from the top of the case or wherever I can secure them. The Velcro isn't a bad idea and you can easily remove it if you need to. I'm currently using 3.5 to 2.5 aluminum adaptors to place them in a regular hd bay.

As for the ISO driver issue did you dl all the available updates before attempting the install? You can also use the media creation tool to upgrade from within win 7 if you so desire and it works quite well.

 

[Eug]

I'm thinking the ISO is corrupt. The file is only 1.79 GB. I note that it's supposed to be 4.2 GB, and the original Windows 10 ISO from last year is around 4 GB too.

However, it loads just fine and starts the process before telling me about the problem driver. BTW, I'm using my Mac to burn the ISOs, but used two different drives to burn it.

I read online that corrupt ISOs will actually do this, and MS does not make it clear with its error message, and doesn't make getting a valid ISO as idiot proof as it should be.

EDIT:

Definitely a corrupt ISO. This time I've downloaded 1.9 GB already and still have over half left.

 

[Eug]

Suhweet!

I was digging through all my old boxes and found the box for my old Intel 330 SSD from 2012. Not only did it come with best quality 2.5" -> 3.5" I've seen so far (nice thick metal), that bracket also has the right mounting holes for my case. Perfect. It's strange that none of the other five brackets I saw had these mounting holes, considering they are normal 3.5" drive mounting holes.

Plus it came with a molex to SATA power adapter. Bonus. It also came with all the necessary screws. Leave it to Intel to provide quality.