Will you make the list?

[Starbuck1975]

Says the guy who reps the party who has boycotted everything from Disney to Nike.

OK.

I have a Disney+ account, frequent their theme parks and prefer Nike for most of my athletic attire needs...your point?

 

[Vic]

Boycotts are often ineffective or have unintended consequences, and blacklisting people is no different than McCarthyism. Ideologues from both parties like to play the boycott game, and yet Hobby Lobby and Chik-fil-A somehow manage to survive.

Wait... so people deciding where or where not to spend their own monies is the same as McCarthyism?
Get the fuck out of here..

 

[Amused]

I have a Disney+ account, frequent their theme parks and prefer Nike for most of my athletic attire needs...your point?

This isn't about you. This is about the side you represent here crying about boycotts when they themselves have led thousands of them.

Snowflakes gotta snowflake I guess.

The free market rejecting someone is only good if it's for your side.

 

[Vic]

Says the guy who reps the party who has boycotted everything from Disney to Nike.

OK.

The other day I was perusing FB just for the hell of it, and I ran across some clown ranting about how 'punitive' liberals were to anyone with a differing opinion. So I click on his profile, which was wide open BTW, and see nothing but Franklin Graham and posts about how everything LGBTQ should be made illegal.
This is the level of hypocrite we're dealing with here.

 

[Amused]

The other day I was perusing FB just for the hell of it, and I ran across some clown ranting about how 'punitive' liberals were to anyone with a differing opinion. So I click on his profile, which was wide open BTW, and see nothing but Franklin Graham and posts about how everything LGBTQ should be made illegal.
This is the level of hypocrite we're dealing with here.

Exactly my point.

 

[Starbuck1975]

This isn't about you. This is about the side you represent here crying about boycotts when they themselves have led thousands of them.

Snowflakes gotta snowflake I guess.

The free market rejecting someone is only good if it's for your side.

How am I representing a side if I reject their call to boycott products from the companies that offend them?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Wait... so people deciding where or where not to spend their own monies is the same as McCarthyism?
Get the fuck out of here..

Still hiding from the Portland thread, lol

 

[Amused]

How am I representing a side if I reject their call to boycott products from the companies that offend them?

Sigh.

This isn't about you.

Answer this question: Do you believe in freedom of association?

 

[Captante]

The other day I was perusing FB

This is the level of hypocrite we're dealing with here

That was your first mistake lol ... I literally had to stop reading most Trumper-posts in order to preserve a few shreds of my sanity.

 

[feralkid]

What about those who quit and blew the whistle on Trump?

Certainly their efforts should be recognized.

 

[fskimospy]

It’s kind of awesome that conservatives here are angry about people engaging in free speech on the grounds that this free speech is inhibiting free speech.

lol.

 

[hal2kilo]

Certainly their efforts should be recognized.

Their better be some recognition of service to the country for Col. Vindman.

 

[fskimospy]

business can refuse service to anyone, that's my stance.

i do belive that you are getting your bothsides mixed up. the people who said you cant refuse service to the gay couple are the ones saying you can refuse service to the maga hat.

the libertarians just say you can refuse service to both because its your business. and they can refuse to use your business, and their friends. the market fixes the problem when the cake place down the street takes all the business because they are not idiots refusing service to people.

Right, but the law on this is very clear in states where refusing service on sexual orientation is illegal.

1) you can’t deny based on orientation, so you must serve gay people.
2) you can deny based on political ideology, so you may deny the MAGA idiot.

If you want to change the law that’s fine but it’s not like people who are saying we should follow the law are being inconsistent. Also, is this really surprising that we don’t have laws that force black people to serve KKK members?

 

[brandonbull]

Oh gee. I guess freedom of association, private property rights and economic freedom only count of they work in your favor, right?

It's a boycott. Should have started years ago against anyone who enabled him or financed him.

It is not an official government blocklist. It is a PRIVATE boycott. You cannot stop a private boycott without limiting FREEDOM.

A current member of Congress is reminding people not to forget her political enemies and using twitter.

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, activists hint at blacklisting of Trump supporters after election

Dem congresswoman suggests holding them ‘responsible for their behavior’

justthenews.com

 

[Starbuck1975]

Sigh.

This isn't about you.

Answer this question: Do you believe in freedom of association?

I believe in freedom of association. It is inappropriate for elected politicians to express support for the creation of lists to punish American citizens for the political groups they choose to associate with. Similarly, we will see how committed some are to the concept of association once police unions start pushing back on the inevitable reforms that will emerge under a Biden administration. This is all just more tribalistic noise and nonsense.

 

[brycejones]

A current member of Congress is reminding people not to forget her political enemies.

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, activists hint at blacklisting of Trump supporters after election

Dem congresswoman suggests holding them ‘responsible for their behavior’

justthenews.com

Besides the click bait headline, what specifically did she say including the context?

You've linked to a website run by a guy who hyped the whole Biden Ukraine story and has a history of unethical behavior in journalism. Forgive me for not just taking your word that the article is accurate.

 

[skyking]

oh the humanity, she's using twitter. have they no decency?

 

[brandonbull]

Besides the click bait headline, what specifically did she say including the context?

You've linked to a website run by a guy who hyped the whole Biden Ukraine story and has a history of unethical behavior in journalism. Forgive me for not just taking your word that the article is accurate.

Since you spent so much time trying to discredit the site and not actually addressing a problem because that's the easy way to address a perplexing problem.. I extracted the tweet, you know the thing from twitter, from the link and it reads "Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future". I guess AOC is taking a poll to see what the temperature of the room is or maybe just asking for a friend? Had Trump said that, we would have had 1000000 replies of "dog whistle". Several guest contributors and members of the "free press" are waiting to destroy and delete anyone that didn't agree politically or ideology with the Church of the Progressheviks. Sounds like the precursor for an authoritarian regime.

 

[brycejones]

Since you spent so much time trying to discredit the site and not actually addressing a problem because that's the easy way to address a perplexing problem.. I extracted the tweet, you know the thing from twitter, from the link and it reads "Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future". I guess AOC is taking a poll to see what the temperature of the room is or maybe just asking for a friend? Had Trump said that, we would have had 1000000 replies of "dog whistle". Several guest contributors and members of the "free press" are waiting to destroy and delete anyone that didn't agree politically or ideology with the Church of the Progressheviks. Sounds like the precursor for an authoritarian regime.

Did you forget that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences for what you say? Is she proposing using the power of the government to do this? If so that would be an actual problem.

 

[Amused]

Did you forget that freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences for what you say? She is proposing using the power of the government to do this? If so that would be an actual problem.

This is where they always lose the plot.

NO ONE IS CALLING FOR GOVERNMENT OR LEGAL ACTION.

Only for people to use the freedom of association, private property and economic freedom to NOT associate with people who have sought to undermine American Democracy.

I guess freedom is bad when people use it to tell you to fuck off, huh?

 

[Jaskalas]

So people exercising their own freedoms by choosing where or where not to spend their own hard-earned monies are going to be the cause of the next civil war?

Hating on and acting against half the nation. Or at the very least 70+ million voters plus their dependents.
Yes. Attempting to segregate a nation has consequences. And it sure as hell will not help in winning over votes.

I guess freedom is bad when people use it to tell you to fuck off, huh?

The South exercised their freedom to secede from the Union.
You are advocating an equivalent division, are you not?

 

[Amused]

Hating on and acting against half the nation. Or at the very least 70+ million voters plus their dependents.
Yes. Attempting to segregate a nation has consequences. And it sure as hell will not help in winning over votes.

Reading comprehension is hard, isn't it???


We should welcome in our fellow Americans with whom we differ politically.

But those who took a paycheck from the Trump Administration should not profit from their efforts to tear our democracy apart. The world should never forget those who, when faced with a decision, chose to put their money, their time, and their reputations behind separating children from their families, encouraging racism and anti-Semitism, and negligently causing the unnecessary loss of life and economic devastation from our country's failed response to the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

[Vic]

Since you spent so much time trying to discredit the site and not actually addressing a problem because that's the easy way to address a perplexing problem.. I extracted the tweet, you know the thing from twitter, from the link and it reads "Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future". I guess AOC is taking a poll to see what the temperature of the room is or maybe just asking for a friend? Had Trump said that, we would have had 1000000 replies of "dog whistle". Several guest contributors and members of the "free press" are waiting to destroy and delete anyone that didn't agree politically or ideology with the Church of the Progressheviks. Sounds like the precursor for an authoritarian regime.

How is any of that different from what you would do if given the chance? I mean, you don't seem to have any issues with all the Trumpers calling for shooting or beheading 'Progressheviks' because they disagree with their speech, but if some 'Progresshevik' doesn't want to spend their money at a business that supported having them shot or beheaded for their speech, that's 'the precursor for an authoritarian regime?' Seriously?

 

[feralkid]

Their better be some recognition of service to the country for Col. Vindman.

Of course.

I was referring to former Trumpsters who finally saw the light and then denounced him...They don't deserve special recognition for simply doing the right thing.

 

[hal2kilo]

Hating on and acting against half the nation. Or at the very least 70+ million voters plus their dependents.
Yes. Attempting to segregate a nation has consequences. And it sure as hell will not help in winning over votes.



The South exercised their freedom to secede from the Union.
You are advocating an equivalent division, are you not?

They still haven't apologized.