Will NYC elect another Republican like Giuliani for mayor again?

[GettyRoad]

Rudy Giuliani was the last Republican mayor in NYC...Mike Bloomberg has always been a liberal Democrat, he ran as a Republican to get more access and money......

Can a Republican win the mayoralty in NYC in the future or are those days over?

 

[brycejones]

I thought one just did?

he may have been a secret republican but he sure acts like one

 

[GettyRoad]

I thought one just did?

he may have been a secret republican but he sure acts like one

Adams is a moderate Democrat.

NYC is a Establishment Dem city. You can't have Socialist mayors, Wall Street will leave for Florida, and what will become of NYC's tax base? Small business and grocery stores?

 

[MrSquished]

Adams is a moderate Democrat.

NYC is a Establishment Dem city. You can't have Socialist mayors, Wall Street will leave for Florida, and what will become of NYC's tax base? Small business and grocery stores?

Adams is Republican lite and a total jackass.

The fact anything but Adams is socialism to you speaks more about your misguided worldview than anything else.

 

[GettyRoad]

Adams is Republican lite and a total jackass.

The fact anything but Adams is socialism to you speaks more about your misguided worldview than anything else.

Adams is not a Republican, if he was, he would not be supporting migrants coming into NYC

NYC elects moderate to left-leaning people as mayor. There was never a rightwing mayor in NYC, none.
Koch and Giuliani was right-leaning on economics and crime, but both moderates.

Neoliberals.

NYC's tax base in Manhattan and Brooklyn would flee to Long Island or Hudson Valley if you hike the city corp tax, etc.

 

[MrSquished]

Adams is not a Republican, if he was, he would not be supporting migrants coming into NYC

NYC elects moderate to left-leaning people as mayor. There was never a rightwing mayor in NYC, none.
Koch and Giuliani was right-leaning on economics and crime, but both moderates.

Neoliberals.

NYC's tax base in Manhattan and Brooklyn would flee to Long Island or Hudson Valley if you hike the city corp tax, etc.

Apparently you don't even know what Adams supports. He's literally saying not to come here.

And also you have no idea about New York City. Sure there are plenty of problems but it's also the most dynamic city in the United States, and it's a big draw for talent. If you think it's that's easy for whole industries to just jump ship and bail and go to places where they can't draw as good talent, Good luck with that theory.

Real estate prices in the city are only going up, because demand totally outstrips supply.

The allure of Austin is a tech destination for companies has been erased. A lot of talent goes where cities are attractive to live with amenities. How come all these industries didn't just leave when de blasio was mayor? Can you tell me? Before covid, when that changed working, please tell me about this Exodus of companies under liberal Bill de Blasio?

Provide a couple links to your sources and let's discuss this.

 

[GettyRoad]

Apparently you don't even know what Adams supports. He's literally saying not to come here.

And also you have no idea about New York City. Sure there are plenty of problems but it's also the most dynamic city in the United States, and it's a big draw for talent. If you think it's that's easy for whole industries to just jump ship and bail and go to places where they can't draw as good talent, Good luck with that theory.

Real estate prices in the city are only going up, because demand totally outstrips supply.

The allure of Austin is a tech destination for companies has been erased. A lot of talent goes where cities are attractive to live with amenities. How come all these industries didn't just leave when de blasio was mayor? Can you tell me? Before covid, when that changed working, please tell me about this Exodus of companies under liberal Bill de Blasio?

Provide a couple links to your sources and let's discuss this.

I lived in NYC during Giuliani and Bloomberg. Giuliani, Vallone, Bloomberg stabilized taxes and businesses were still in NYC despite the high NYS taxes, etc.

Adams is right to tell migrants not to come to NYC, NYC is too packed and full.

 

[fskimospy]

I lived in NYC during Giuliani and Bloomberg. Giuliani, Vallone, Bloomberg stabilized taxes and businesses were still in NYC despite the high NYS taxes, etc.

Adams is right to tell migrants not to come to NYC, NYC is too packed and full.

How is NYC full? It’s nowhere near its all time peak population.

NYC rents are expensive because NIMBYS made it illegal to build housing in wide swaths of the city.

 

[MrSquished]

I lived in NYC during Giuliani and Bloomberg. Giuliani, Vallone, Bloomberg stabilized taxes and businesses were still in NYC despite the high NYS taxes, etc.

Adams is right to tell migrants not to come to NYC, NYC is too packed and full.

Except you just said Adams was inviting the migrants here. Try to keep your story straight.

Also your claim that all businesses would leave with liberal mayor you didn't answer the question about why didn't they leave during Bill de Blasio? I mean can you please answer the question. In fact until COVID, which is no mayor's fault, New York City was also thriving and increasing key successful metrics year over year under de Blasio. Well except for the insane real estate prices.

Also can you answer the question about drawing talent to cities being a factor. According to you all the businesses should have left under de Blasio, and according to right-wing media New York City has been an apocalyptic hellhole for the last 3 years, why didn't they all leave then too?

I would love to hear your insights.

 

[GettyRoad]

How is NYC full? It’s nowhere near its all time peak population.

NYC rents are expensive because NIMBYS made it illegal to build housing in wide swaths of the city.

NYC has over 8 million people. It's a megapolis. Too much. Even NYers are angry at the migrant problem.

Staten Island and Queens may secede because of it...

 

[GettyRoad]

Except you just said Adams was inviting the migrants here. Try to keep your story straight.

Also your claim that all businesses would leave with liberal mayor you didn't answer the question about why didn't they leave during Bill de Blasio? I mean can you please answer the question. In fact until COVID, which is no mayor's fault, New York City was also thriving and increasing key successful metrics year over year under de Blasio. Well except for the insane real estate prices.

Also can you answer the question about drawing talent to cities being a factor. According to you all the businesses should have left under de Blasio, and according to right-wing media New York City has been an apocalyptic hellhole for the last 3 years, why didn't they all leave then too?

I would love to hear your insights.

Bernie Kerik, Ray Kelly, Bloomberg, Vallone, and Joe Lhota, de Blasio's opponent in 2013 feared businesses would flee NY, they did....after COVID and because of the mini-crime surge that happened....

 

[MrSquished]

Bernie Kerik, Ray Kelly, Bloomberg, Vallone, and Joe Lhota, de Blasio's opponent in 2013 feared businesses would flee NY, they did....after COVID and because of the mini-crime surge that happened....

I mean why are you being so obtuse? You said businesses would flee from New York City under a liberal mayor. Except de Blasio became mayor and New York City only continue to thrive.

I acknowledged covid changed things but that has nothing to do with a liberal mayor.

Your statement is that non-republican light democrat mayors will cause businesses to just leave in a jiffy. Why did that not happen under de Blasio? Simple question please answer it.

Second thing, again, because you won't answer it. Why do you feel businesses with just pick up and leave in a jiffy under a non-republican lite Democratic mayor like Adams, when they haven't during de Blasio and in the last 3 years when New York City has supposedly been in apocalyptic hellhole?

Again please answer these simple questions based upon your own statements.

Thirdly do you think businesses function by attracting talent and do you think attracting talent has anything to do with where a business is located?

 

[fskimospy]

NYC has over 8 million people. It's a megapolis. Too much. Even NYers are angry at the migrant problem.

Staten Island and Queens may secede because of it...

Why is it ‘too much’? If anything NYC needs to become much more dense than it is to address the housing crisis.

Also if you think Staten Island or Queens are going to secede you are delusional.

 

[GettyRoad]

I mean why are you being so obtuse? You said businesses would flee from New York City under a liberal mayor. Except de Blasio became mayor and New York City only continue to thrive.

I acknowledged covid changed things but that has nothing to do with a liberal mayor.

Your statement is that non-republican light democrat mayors will cause businesses to just leave in a jiffy. Why did that not happen under de Blasio? Simple question please answer it.

Second thing, again, because you won't answer it. Why do you feel businesses with just pick up and leave in a jiffy under a non-republican lite Democratic mayor like Adams, when they haven't during de Blasio and in the last 3 years when New York City has supposedly been in apocalyptic hellhole?

Again please answer these simple questions based upon your own statements.

Thirdly do you think businesses function by attracting talent and do you think attracting talent has anything to do with where a business is located?

1. It didn't happen because Kelly, Kerik, Kelleher, etc. were exaggerating to quell down their elite donor class....

2. Because NYS taxes are too onerous, NYS needs to reduce some taxes a bit so businesses can operate in the city.

3. Yes. Florida, Texas, NJ, Carolinas are all having booms.

 

[HomerJS]

Have you seen what Gulianai is?

Let’s hope not

 

[MrSquished]

1. It didn't happen because Kelly, Kerik, Kelleher, etc. were exaggerating to quell down their elite donor class....

2. Because NYS taxes are too onerous, NYS needs to reduce some taxes a bit so businesses can operate in the city.

3. Yes. Florida, Texas, NJ, Carolinas are all having booms.

Your #1 answer is funny. Got any sources? New York City thrived by any business metric under de Blasio. Nobody had to convince anybody not to go it's not like New York City was doing poorly it was actually doing amazing. You make no sense because you have an agenda and are trying to create the facts to back you up not the other way around.

And yes covid has changed the business landscape, This has nothing to do with de Blasio's mayorship though. You keep trying to conflate covid and de Blasio no matter how much your twisted worldview wants to make that happen it's just not true.

And Even since covid in the last 3 years where New York City wa portrayed as an apocalyptic hellhole, why didn't all these industries flee why is there still so much money in New York and startups coming there too?

They're definitely tech companies regretting their moves down south because those places aren't just that appealing to live at the end and people will pay for amenities. Now what New York City has to do is reduce the cost of living and that's primarily by building lots of housing. But rents are rising in New York City more than they were pre-COVID. Your entire theory that people are fleeing is completely fucked by the facts.

 

[GettyRoad]

Why is it ‘too much’? If anything NYC needs to become much more dense than it is to address the housing crisis.

Also if you think Staten Island or Queens are going to secede you are delusional.

You can't breathe in NYC, it's like packed sardines. Jackson Heights, Queens was an example during COVID.

Staten Island Borough President Vito Fossella wants SI out of NYC by 2030, so it's possible.

Rudy Giuliani won in 1993 because of a strong and historic turnout on SI wanting to secede

 

[GettyRoad]

Have you seen what Gulianai is?

Let’s hope not

Giuliani was okay on crime, and taxes were stabilized....

Yes, Giuliani is an ass, but he received a C grade as mayor

Bloomberg was better, but a non-crazy Rudy/Bloomberg type without the police brutality would be fine.......

 

[MrSquished]

You can't breathe in NYC, it's like packed sardines. Jackson Heights, Queens was an example during COVID.

Staten Island Borough President Vito Fossella wants SI out of NYC by 2030, so it's possible.

Rudy Giuliani won in 1993 because of a strong and historic turnout on SI wanting to secede

So you keep basically just projecting your own completely biased worldview on New York. What you view is packed like sardines is what other people see as a bustling vibrant diverse city with insane amenities from food to art and nightlife and many other things. Just because you can't handle a bustling metropolis is your problem. If it's not for you don't be there but apparently based on the real estate prices a lot of people actually love that.

Really who gives a shit if Staten Island leaves. It's a net loss tax wise. There are no big industries there. It's more spread out and suburban so the tax base is much smaller. It's also right-wing and fascist nobody even thinks of Staten Island as part of New York City. Seriously I think most New Yorkers will be fine with them leaving. Why is that a threat anyway to you?

You don't have any facts you just have feelings. You can't answer why the city was thriving under more liberal Democrat until COVID because you have no facts.

 

[GettyRoad]

Your #1 answer is funny. Got any sources? New York City thrived by any business metric under de Blasio. Nobody had to convince anybody not to go it's not like New York City was doing poorly it was actually doing amazing. You make no sense because you have an agenda and are trying to create the facts to back you up not the other way around.

And yes covid has changed the business landscape, This has nothing to do with de Blasio's mayorship though. You keep trying to conflate covid and de Blasio no matter how much your twisted worldview wants to make that happen it's just not true.

And Even since covid in the last 3 years where New York City wa portrayed as an apocalyptic hellhole, why didn't all these industries flee why is there still so much money in New York and startups coming there too?

They're definitely tech companies regretting their moves down south because those places aren't just that appealing to live at the end and people will pay for amenities. Now what New York City has to do is reduce the cost of living and that's primarily by building lots of housing. But rents are rising in New York City more than they were pre-COVID. Your entire theory that people are fleeing is completely fucked by the facts.

1. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/23/...nd-debate-turns-up-the-heat-on-de-blasio.html

NYPD chief: Bill de Blasio 'full of it' over stop-and-frisk publicised views

Raymond Kelly says De Blasio and other Democratic candidates ended their friendships with him before 'pandering for votes'

www.theguardian.com

 

[fskimospy]

You can't breathe in NYC, it's like packed sardines. Jackson Heights, Queens was an example during COVID.

Staten Island Borough President Vito Fossella wants SI out of NYC by 2030, so it's possible.

Rudy Giuliani won in 1993 because of a strong and historic turnout on SI wanting to secede

I don’t know why you’re trying to tell me what my own city is like. NYC needs much, much more housing built.

As far as Staten Island seceding no, it’s not possible, and borough presidents have zero power anyway. Staten Island has no choice as to if it’s part of NYC or not - they would need to convince the state legislature to let them do it, and…lol.

 

[MrSquished]

The single biggest problem New York City has is a lack of housing because demand is insanely higher than supply. Rents have only gone up post COVID and are breaking records. So this has nothing to do with demand to live in New York City. People want to live there and there are jobs where people want to live and companies like when talented people like to live somewhere. But the cost of housing must go down that's New York city's biggest problem, Not a Democratic mayor.

Adams is a shit mayor because he's basically a Republican. New York City can't have a very far left mayor but they certainly need a democratic mayor someone who empathizes with the problems of people. Republicans have no empathy and their only solution is to throw people in jail.

They will cut mass transit and all services, including education, like Adams. They will only invest in the wealthiest.

The biggest issue in New York is the cost of living driven by housing prices and rents. Including commercial.

 

[MrSquished]

1. https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/23/...nd-debate-turns-up-the-heat-on-de-blasio.html

NYPD chief: Bill de Blasio 'full of it' over stop-and-frisk publicised views

Raymond Kelly says De Blasio and other Democratic candidates ended their friendships with him before 'pandering for votes'

www.theguardian.com

Raymond Kelly the far right police chief is your source? He had to beg people not to leave when they were about to?

Did you see the stats under the Blasio they only continued what Bloomberg started crime was going down New York was a destination it was a shining city on the hill.

Of course Kelly is going to say that that's what he is he's a fucking right-wing fascist. And that still has nothing to do with him consoling the donor class to not leave. They were thriving under de Blasio.

 

[GettyRoad]

So you keep basically just projecting your own completely biased worldview on New York. What you view is packed like sardines is what other people see as a bustling vibrant diverse city with insane amenities from food to art and nightlife and many other things. Just because you can't handle a bustling metropolis is your problem. If it's not for you don't be there but apparently based on the real estate prices a lot of people actually love that.

Really who gives a shit if Staten Island leaves. It's a net loss tax wise. There are no big industries there. It's more spread out and suburban so the tax base is much smaller. It's also right-wing and fascist nobody even thinks of Staten Island as part of New York City. Seriously I think most New Yorkers will be fine with them leaving. Why is that a threat anyway to you?

You don't have any facts you just have feelings. You can't answer why the city was thriving under more liberal Democrat until COVID because you have no facts.

Staten Island firefighters gave their lives on 9/11, they are part of NYC.

It has an old school New York vibe, NYC is too gentrified, you need oldies there still.

Yes, SI is too rightwing, but there's a lot of blue collar firefighters there.

 

[GettyRoad]

Raymond Kelly the far right police chief is your source? He had to beg people not to leave when they were about to?

Did you see the stats under the Blasio they only continued what Bloomberg started crime was going down New York was a destination it was a shining city on the hill.

Of course Kelly is going to say that that's what he is he's a fucking right-wing fascist. And that still has nothing to do with him consoling the donor class to not leave. They were thriving under de Blasio.

Ray Kelly is not rightwing, David Dinkins hired him in 1992 and crime went down under Dinkins and Kelly, but Dinkins never got credit for it...Rudy won in '93 and fired Kelly for Bill Bratton....

Kelly just believes in stop and frisk and he feels minority men are safer for it....