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Doppel

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Shit, 7-year old hardware with a high price tag and no games, is anybody really surprised? Once the PS4 and 720 are out you'd have to hate your kids to buy them this thing and they will hate you if you do.
 

smackababy

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The Wii-U has no killer apps in the works from what I've seen. Until they decide to release a new Zelda, I will be staying away. By that time, hopefully the modding community will have the Wii-U able to do some real nice stuff and I can bu one and enjoy it. Until that time, I will probably be enjoying my NextBox and PS4, because I've come to the conclusion I will have to buy both.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Shit, 7-year old hardware with a high price tag and no games, is anybody really surprised? Once the PS4 and 720 are out you'd have to hate your kids to buy them this thing and they will hate you if you do.

It's actually using hardware that is better specced out than the Xbox 360 or PS3. That's why the new Need for Speed had the high resolution textures from the PC on the Wiiu version. I get what you're trying to say, but did everyone forget that pretty images don't make a game or do you simply agree with Cevat Yerli who says graphics are 60% of a game?

There are good games coming, you just need to be open minded about it. The best graphics in the world won't make Aliens: Colonial Marines a good game.
 

American Gunner

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I don't know anyone that will play a shit game just because of graphics. But with that being said, most of us see that when the next gen comes out, the Wii U will be left behind. Especially if third party support is already starting to drop off. When the next gen consoles come and they have to seriously cripple a game for it to run on the Wii U compared to the new consoles, developers will just skip making games for it.
 

cmdrdredd

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I don't know anyone that will play a shit game just because of graphics. But with that being said, most of us see that when the next gen comes out, the Wii U will be left behind. Especially if third party support is already starting to drop off. When the next gen consoles come and they have to seriously cripple a game for it to run on the Wii U compared to the new consoles, developers will just skip making games for it.

Depends on what happens later on. There's still development occurring from 3rd parties. This doom and gloom talk is silly. Nintendo knows what they are doing, they might not be doing what you think they should but they aren't idiots when it comes to gaming.

There's even one game using CryEngine 3.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/20/crytek-ceo-cryengine-3-wii-u-game-coming-from-a-respected-deve/
"It doesn't mean that CryEngine 3 doesn't run on Wii U – it actually runs beautifully," Yerli told CVG. "In fact, there actually is a game in development from a respected developer that we will be announcing. I've seen the game running and it looks really great."
 

American Gunner

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Look at the last couple years for the Wii. A lot of big third party titles didn't come out for it. I am thinking it will be the exact same this time.
 

crisium

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Aug 19, 2001
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Nintendo knows what they are doing

Let me fix that for you:

Only Nintendo knows what they are doing.

Western analysts across the hemisphere are shocked at the leadership of Nintendo. I guess the one good thing Nintendo can say is that they are only the second most mind boggling Japanese game company. Square Enix is run by actual madmen.
 

Silver Prime

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Wii u will catch on, theres really nothing all that great to play at the moment, thats like coming out with a lambergini car and you have only rims instead of rubber wheels, its badass no dought, but with-out those wheels, you aint livin in the fast lane...big mistake for Nintendo, they should have waited at-least for a power house line up was availiable to play.
 

Silver Prime

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it's still lame as hell. nintendo would also show off a bunch of games while talking about numbers. just like sony and ms. i'm not sure why you guys are trying to act as though any of the conferences were different.

all of them tout numbers and show off new games and hardware. sony and ms had many years they had no new hardware to show off, yet they still had a keynote.

nintendo is simply in trouble because they have no numbers to show off, since the wii-u is selling like crap, and they have no games to show off, since there isn't much on the horizon. i mean i can't blame them for not going up there i guess since they literally have nothing to show off it seems.

as a gamer it juts sucks cause i love all the hype of e3 around all 3 console makers, and i love the discussions that go on before and after the keynote speeches for all 3 of them. this year we'll only have 2 consoles to talk about.

Jesus...expand your vocab a bit, how many times did you use the words "Show off"...exactly what do you think Sony and Microsoft will bring that would make anyone think graphics is a main concern any more?

Its not like they are coming out with the year 3000 type graphics, in fact just saw 4k, it looks stupid...why would I need to focus on every spec and shine on a single object for? Anything over super Hd is just over-rated, its like 3-d movies now days, unless it has a vast amount of 3-d implimations, like Avatar did with its aray of color and light varietys, why would I wanna watch a standard movie in 3-d just to focus on the chair poping out and miss the whole diologue or scenes scenario.

The fact is graphics is coming to an end, everything has high powered graphics now days, smart phones have some of the most powerfullest graphics I've ever seen, and still I remember playing a free dragon game on a Ipod with awesome graphics yet it had probably the worst functionality/gameplay I have ever played, I'd rather go set up my N64 or Ps1 and play some oldies and or just games with sprites then ever play that retarded highly graphical crap dragon game again.

Talk is cheap with the Ps4 and Next X, and Nintendo is doing just fine...not great but they can manage until there high-lights come out....not a dought in my mind.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Let me fix that for you:

Only Nintendo knows what they are doing.

Western analysts across the hemisphere are shocked at the leadership of Nintendo. I guess the one good thing Nintendo can say is that they are only the second most mind boggling Japanese game company. Square Enix is run by actual madmen.

Well, I'll give you that. I still think they have a plan, they just need to get it rolling.

I guess everyone likes things shiny and eye catching. That's why there's so many posts and topics comparing the WiiU to the PS4. I don't think Nintendo ever really intended to compete for graphics so I don't see this argument.
 

American Gunner

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Wii u will catch on, theres really nothing all that great to play at the moment, thats like coming out with a lambergini car and you have only rims instead of rubber wheels, its badass no dought, but with-out those wheels, you aint livin in the fast lane...big mistake for Nintendo, they should have waited at-least for a power house line up was availiable to play.

You just compared a Lamborghini to a wii u? Maybe you should use a ford fusion instead.
 

Silver Prime

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No because a Lamborghini is a powerful, beautiful car. The wii u is not powerful at all.

Lamborghini is a powerful car? Ya dont say, XD

The wii u is more powerful then the...

-Nintendo
-Sega genisis
-Super Nintendo
-Playstation
-N64
-Dream cast
-Game cube
-Ps2
-Xbox
-Ps3
-Wii
-Xbox 360

So exactly what is your definition of powerful, and that the wii u as you said isint? Explain to me how the latest and greatest tech of the past 4 years were put in from the ground up into the wii u is not powerful?

If you're talking about the most powerfulest gameing home counsle as of today excluding Computers, then the wii u takes the cake...sorry if that upsets you, but I see nothing you can impliment in the next Xbox and the Ps4 having anything to blow away the wii u with, they dident do it with the last gen, and I see no reason why they will this gen. In terms more powerful its like comparing a person who can bench 250 and the other guy 270, that dosent leave room for any notice when they go head to head in combat. If that were true Body builders would rule the UFC, yet its all for show...just like the numbers in sales wont be that impressive when they come out and compare them with the wii U.

The bottom line is, if Sony and Micro-soft came out with a crappy line up like the Nintendo did, they wont sell as much right off the back either.

Plain...and...simple.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Lamborghini is a powerful car? Ya dont say, XD

The wii u is more powerful then the...

-Nintendo
-Sega genisis
-Super Nintendo
-Playstation
-N64
-Dream cast
-Game cube
-Ps2
-Xbox
-Ps3
-Wii
-Xbox 360

So exactly what is your definition of powerful, and that the wii u as you said isint? Explain to me how the latest and greatest tech of the past 4 years were put in from the ground up into the wii u is not powerful?

If you're talking about the most powerfulest gameing home counsle as of today excluding Computers, then the wii u takes the cake...sorry if that upsets you, but I see nothing you can impliment in the next Xbox and the Ps4 having anything to blow away the wii u with, they dident do it with the last gen, and I see no reason why they will this gen. In terms more powerful its like comparing a person who can bench 250 and the other guy 270, that dosent leave room for any notice when they go head to head in combat. If that were true Body builders would rule the UFC, yet its all for show...just like the numbers in sales wont be that impressive when they come out and compare them with the wii U.

The bottom line is, if Sony and Micro-soft came out with a crappy line up like the Nintendo did, they wont sell as much right off the back either.

Plain...and...simple.

you are all over the place. since this is so hard for you to comprehend i will spell it out for you.

current gen:
xbox360
ps3
wii

"next" gen:
wii u
ps4
xbox720

of course the wii-u is more powerful than "current gen" consoles - it is a "next gen" console. that is like saying graphics card from 2013 is more powerful than one from 2005, and being proud of that fact like it is something special.

the wii-u is 2012 technology and it just barely rivals consoles that came out in 2004/2005. and since there aren't any system sellers for the wii-u, it's in a lot of trouble when the ps4 and 720 come out, sales wise. whether you like it or not, good looking graphics (along with good gameplay) will do more than a so-so looking game that has good gameplay. people just like new technology and want to be up with the current tech. if that wasn't the case, people would still be using the iphone1 and android gen1 phones. but they aren't, they want faster and newer tech phones. it is the world we live in.

and you are right that if ps4 and 720 have a shitty lineup that they will have problems selling their console a few months after launch. that's called common sense. the difference is that we don't know what is coming out 6-months after the 720 and ps4 are out. we know right now that the wii-u has jack shit after 6 months of being out. and there isn't much on the horizon either.

i will buy a wii-u when there is a game that is a system seller to me. that would be a mario 64 sequel or some sort of zelda game that intrigues me, or something that i completely just have to get that is brand new. a wind waker remake, a game i played long ago on the gc when it came out a decade ago, doesn't intrigue me at all. neither is a new nsmb game.
 

American Gunner

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Aug 26, 2010
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I don't think I need to add anymore to what purbeast0 said, but since you're delusional about how awesome the wii u I will just ignore your rant.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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you are all over the place. since this is so hard for you to comprehend i will spell it out for you.

current gen:
xbox360
ps3
wii

"next" gen:
wii u
ps4
xbox720

of course the wii-u is more powerful than "current gen" consoles - it is a "next gen" console. that is like saying graphics card from 2013 is more powerful than one from 2005, and being proud of that fact like it is something special.

the wii-u is 2012 technology and it just barely rivals consoles that came out in 2004/2005. and since there aren't any system sellers for the wii-u, it's in a lot of trouble when the ps4 and 720 come out, sales wise. whether you like it or not, good looking graphics (along with good gameplay) will do more than a so-so looking game that has good gameplay. people just like new technology and want to be up with the current tech. if that wasn't the case, people would still be using the iphone1 and android gen1 phones. but they aren't, they want faster and newer tech phones. it is the world we live in.

and you are right that if ps4 and 720 have a shitty lineup that they will have problems selling their console a few months after launch. that's called common sense. the difference is that we don't know what is coming out 6-months after the 720 and ps4 are out. we know right now that the wii-u has jack shit after 6 months of being out. and there isn't much on the horizon either.

i will buy a wii-u when there is a game that is a system seller to me. that would be a mario 64 sequel or some sort of zelda game that intrigues me, or something that i completely just have to get that is brand new. a wind waker remake, a game i played long ago on the gc when it came out a decade ago, doesn't intrigue me at all. neither is a new nsmb game.

That's all well and good but people are buying $600 phones for a subsidized price of $199. Nobody knows how much the PS4 or anything will be yet but it will undoubtedly be north of the wiiu pricing. That might mean something, or it might mean nothing.

What I can bet on and have great odds in my favor is the PS4 and next Xbox having a good start then a slow go for a while because with any new system, the really good games are slow to roll in. We will just have to wait and see. Perhaps not everyone will see a shiny PS4 with a $500 price tag and be all in. Of course I will, but I am not the average person out there.

I do know for a fact that the right games will sell the system, there is no doubt about it. Nintendo just needs the right marketing behind those games.
 

Silver Prime

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May 29, 2012
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you are all over the place. since this is so hard for you to comprehend i will spell it out for you.

current gen:
xbox360
ps3
wii

"next" gen:
wii u
ps4
xbox720

of course the wii-u is more powerful than "current gen" consoles - it is a "next gen" console. that is like saying graphics card from 2013 is more powerful than one from 2005, and being proud of that fact like it is something special.

the wii-u is 2012 technology and it just barely rivals consoles that came out in 2004/2005. and since there aren't any system sellers for the wii-u, it's in a lot of trouble when the ps4 and 720 come out, sales wise. whether you like it or not, good looking graphics (along with good gameplay) will do more than a so-so looking game that has good gameplay. people just like new technology and want to be up with the current tech. if that wasn't the case, people would still be using the iphone1 and android gen1 phones. but they aren't, they want faster and newer tech phones. it is the world we live in.

and you are right that if ps4 and 720 have a shitty lineup that they will have problems selling their console a few months after launch. that's called common sense. the difference is that we don't know what is coming out 6-months after the 720 and ps4 are out. we know right now that the wii-u has jack shit after 6 months of being out. and there isn't much on the horizon either.

i will buy a wii-u when there is a game that is a system seller to me. that would be a mario 64 sequel or some sort of zelda game that intrigues me, or something that i completely just have to get that is brand new. a wind waker remake, a game i played long ago on the gc when it came out a decade ago, doesn't intrigue me at all. neither is a new nsmb game.

Hey Mr. let me spell it out for you...

1.) You're not spelling anything, so nice using a retarded anology of you Not doing something you claimed you are doing, which also is related to hypocritcal and contradicting.

2.) Do you think I dont know that the wii u is a now/next gen, and the rest I named are last gen? Its you who cant comprehend what I was adressing.

I am just countering what seems to be a fan boy who is just trying to degrade the formality and concept that the wii u is a powerful in fact the most powerfullest home counsle to date and as he says "isint powerful at all". Huh! Its evident with the choosing of words he's emiting on subject.

The Wii u barely rivals last gen counsles? What the hell are you talking about, what super, interstaller, god sending, omnipotant graphical out-put power do you think the Ps4 and Next X will have in comparance to there last gens current out put graphics??? I've just seen some of the graphics as of the old man, and it looks like shit, it looks like a cenimatic for the ps1, a hieghtened ps2, and what the ps3 can do now...so what type of power are you talking about? Because there is a limit to a artistical value which can be emited, hence there are art hundreds of years ago that are still better than the majority of the average drawer/painter today...you can only improve on graphics so much, there is a limit and the P'c gamings are already at the final stages of it.

What the hell do you mean weather I like it or not? XD XD XD XD The wii trumped the last gen in sales...weather you like it or not...you're all over the place in being just a huge contradiction, you cant compare last gen sales with this gen sales, the wii owned last gen in sales...The End. We can only see what the big S and big M have up there sleaves, which whats shown so far for the Ps4 looks less then medicore in terms power, so stop making absurd opinions that they have some type of mind warping herion drug brain stimulator.

I never implimented Wii u has (as you stated jack shit) I said there main eye catchers there cup of tea..."Nintendo games" isint abundent, they have wap 3rd party games (which I never wanted Nintendo to don upoun). reguardless how much you think its shit, they already turned profits, its a done deal, money in the bank...what are you see-ing that they are in termoil with? They have always been known as the steady pacers, not like sony who blew more money then King mitas on the ps3 and had the worst start out of all 3 home counsles, lagging through out its life being sold for a lost only until a slight boost in sales.

All you said was blah blah, the wii U is shit to ps4 and next x...blah blah blah, with no base historically, no evidence visually, nothing to rival current computers best graphical out put this second... only a bias point of view that wants people to take him seriously. Huh!
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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1. i don't think you even read my post

2. it is really hard to read your posts with how poor your spelling/grammar is.

i made it through the whole thing, but again, you are all over the place making no sense, so no need to reply.
 

Sulaco

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Mar 28, 2003
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I never implimented Wii u has (as you stated jack shit) I said there main eye catchers there cup of tea..."Nintendo games" isint abundent, they have wap 3rd party games (which I never wanted Nintendo to don upoun). reguardless how much you think its shit, they already turned profits, its a done deal, money in the bank...what are you see-ing that they are in termoil with?

I just got a headache reading that...and I'm not even a grammar Nazi.

Ouch.
 

Silver Prime

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May 29, 2012
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1. i don't think you even read my post

2. it is really hard to read your posts with how poor your spelling/grammar is.

i made it through the whole thing, but again, you are all over the place making no sense, so no need to reply.

Nah, I cant let a walking contradiction get the last word, so you dont reply, how's that sound???

Please dont reply because you will only show you are even more of a hypocrite then you already made your self out to be.

-_-
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Yup, they screwed up not releasing any huge killer apps already because people would have bought a WiiU already, instead, the closer we get to the PS4 & NextBox, the worse it's going to get. They had this huge head start and missed a huge opportunity to get people to spend money on they system.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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Yup, they screwed up not releasing any huge killer apps already because people would have bought a WiiU already, instead, the closer we get to the PS4 & NextBox, the worse it's going to get. They had this huge head start and missed a huge opportunity to get people to spend money on they system.

I bet any games they did release that were good enough to be that, would still be bashed and people would say "but I'm tired of that" or whatever. You can't win.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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I bet any games they did release that were good enough to be that, would still be bashed and people would say "but I'm tired of that" or whatever. You can't win.

you make a lot of asinine assumptions.

it is almost like you can't fathom the fact that people can be interested in the wii-u as well as ps4/720, but since the wii-u CURRENTLY has no games, people aren't excited about it.
 
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