• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Wife is finally free -- UPDATE 10/9

Page 5 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
DougK62 said:
The word "Christian" is very broadly defined, and always has been. Just because some people want to make the definition less wide, that doesn't make it true.

EDIT: Look up the word "Christian" in any dictionary and see what you find.
Click to expand...

I don't dispute what the definition of Christian is. I'm just disputing that the teachings of Joseph Smith wander outside of established Christian doctrines so far that it's debatable whether or not Mormonism is "Christian."

If I started a church that was centered around Jesus Christ but we believed Jesus was just a man, he liked to party, had tons of pre-marital sex, and was all for abortion, would you consider my religion "Christian?"
 
child of wonder said:
I don't dispute what the definition of Christian is. I'm just disputing that the teachings of Joseph Smith wander outside of established Christian doctrines so far that it's debatable whether or not Mormonism is "Christian."

If I started a church that was centered around Jesus Christ but we believed Jesus was just a man, he liked to party, had tons of pre-marital sex, and was all for abortion, would you consider my religion "Christian?"
Click to expand...

I'm not trying to pick a fight, as I don't even have a horse in the race. I'm just saying that by the very definition of the word Mormons are definitely "Christian".

Could there be a Christian religion that believes that Jesus was a party guy and liked all kinds of shenanigans? I don't see why not. Every other Christian denomination just takes the pieces that they like and ignores the rest anyway.
 
DougK62 said:
I'm not trying to pick a fight, as I don't even have a horse in the race. I'm just saying that by the very definition of the word Mormons are definitely "Christian".

Could there be a Christian religion that believes that Jesus was a party guy and liked all kinds of shenanigans? I don't see why not. Every other Christian denomination just takes the pieces that they like and ignores the rest anyway.
Click to expand...

Sure, if we look at the strictest definition of the word "Christian" then my argument doesn't have much of a leg to stand on. If someone professes to follow Jesus Christ, no matter what they believe he taught, then they're Christian.
 
ichy said:
I've noticed that most of the individual Mormons I know are nice folks (although I've met a few douchebaggy ones.) I'm still not a fan of the LDS church because of their heavy emphasis on obnoxious proselytizing and obvious money-grubbing ways, but most Mormons seem like they'd be pretty good neighbors.
Click to expand...

I grew up in a fairly dense LDS area and I also noticed this phenomenon. Members of the church were courteous, hard working, and moral.

I'm not saying that you have to believe in God to have these qualities, but that it appeared LDS members possessed these qualities in higher ratios than the general population.

A couple of my very good friends are LDS. They're intelligent people doing good work. It's too bad I can't talk to them about certain things or even at all on Sundays because they're off praying to Santa Claus.
 
DougK62 said:
The word "Christian" is very broadly defined, and always has been. Just because some people want to make the definition less wide, that doesn't make it true.

EDIT: Look up the word "Christian" in any dictionary and see what you find.
Click to expand...

Lol dictionary. How about you ask any Christian pastors?
 
did you have to get the letter notarized and signed in triplicate as well? if you're in utah does it have to be filed of record with the county clerk?

wtf?
 
child of wonder said:
Mormonism demands 10% of your gross income in tithing. It's in their financial interests to keep you as an active, tithing member.
Click to expand...

This is what I've always found absolutely unfathomable about [some] religion. I mean, what? How? Why?

God, if there was one, would not care about money. If this doesn't tell you that the whole thing is a crock of man-made shit, nothing will. It's got to be the biggest and most accepted scam on the face of the planet.

It seriously blows my mind.
 
Eli said:
This is what I've always found absolutely unfathomable about [some] religion. I mean, what? How? Why?

God, if there was one, would not care about money. If this doesn't tell you that the whole thing is a crock of man-made shit, nothing will. It's got to be the biggest and most accepted scam on the face of the planet.

It seriously blows my mind.
Click to expand...

Mine, too.

Mormonism is one of the most obvious frauds out there along with Scientology.

Anyone can research the Kinderhook plates, Book of Abraham, the church's change on polygamy, etc. to make it crystal clear this is a man made institution with no god involved whatsoever.
 
i dont think the important question was asked. if you marry multiple women can you have like a mormon-orgy with them?
 
Free at last . OH! My . But if you still worked for Bishop out of fear of lost income you would have her remain a slave . The Mormons are better than you are . What a phony.
 
Nemesis 1 said:
Free at last . OH! My . But if you still worked for Bishop out of fear of lost income you would have her remain a slave . The Mormons are better than you are . What a phony.
Click to expand...

Called the game of life.

I see no problems with his actions. It doesn't make any sense to burn bridges while you're in the middle of the bridge. Better to wait until you're on the other side if you know you're going to burn it anyway.
 
child of wonder said:
No, you are still considered a member even if you stop attending church. This means "visiting teachers" will attempt to contact you and visit occasionally and missionaries will come to your door expecting to be fed since you're listed as a member.

Simply being inactive doesn't do anything but flag you as someone they need to contact on a regular basis in an attempt to get you active again.
Click to expand...

Missionaries don't just show up at your door to be feed. There is a sign up sheet if you want to feed them. It's all voluntary.
 
<---Christian here.

Just to put a rest to the argument:
- Mormons consider themselves a particularly advanced sect of Christianity.
- Most mainstream Christian denominations, while recognizing other mainstream Christian denominations, do not consider Mormons to be Christians.

Does the definition of Christianity inherently include or exclude Mormons? No, because words, particularly in areas of theology, are not that rigid in meaning.

OP, glad to hear the Mormons are going to leave you alone now. I have a friend who has been trying to get off their roll call for 30+ years now.
 
Eli said:
This is what I've always found absolutely unfathomable about [some] religion. I mean, what? How? Why?

God, if there was one, would not care about money. If this doesn't tell you that the whole thing is a crock of man-made shit, nothing will. It's got to be the biggest and most accepted scam on the face of the planet.

It seriously blows my mind.
Click to expand...

Not to condone their antics, but I think the Mormons take care of their people, more so than most other religions. It was my understanding, that you have nothing to worry about with life. Whether health, money, or food. If that's the case, you could think of the 10% fee as an insurance policy.
 
lxskllr said:
Not to condone their antics, but I think the Mormons take care of their people, more so than most other religions. It was my understanding, that you have nothing to worry about with life. Whether health, money, or food. If that's the case, you could think of the 10&#37; fee as an insurance policy.
Click to expand...

Currently working with an 18 year old girl whose Mormon mom kicked her out of the house two years ago and just it again to her 16 year old sister. The 18 year old is struggling to find a place to live, money for books for her community college classes, etc. The Mormon church taking care of her hasn't been her experience at all. They didn't even talk to her mom about kicking her out. The mom just kicked out her 16 year old sister too.
 
lxskllr said:
Not to condone their antics, but I think the Mormons take care of their people, more so than most other religions. It was my understanding, that you have nothing to worry about with life. Whether health, money, or food. If that's the case, you could think of the 10% fee as an insurance policy.
Click to expand...

I would say they're more helpful and supportive of members, but it doesn't go as far as you describe.

The Mormon church is also heavily vested in other business ventures such as commercial real estate to bring in more money.
 
AreaCode707 said:
Currently working with an 18 year old girl whose Mormon mom kicked her out of the house two years ago and just it again to her 16 year old sister. The 18 year old is struggling to find a place to live, money for books for her community college classes, etc. The Mormon church taking care of her hasn't been her experience at all. They didn't even talk to her mom about kicking her out. The mom just kicked out her 16 year old sister too.
Click to expand...

Reasons given?
 
AreaCode707 said:
Currently working with an 18 year old girl whose Mormon mom kicked her out of the house two years ago and just it again to her 16 year old sister. The 18 year old is struggling to find a place to live, money for books for her community college classes, etc. The Mormon church taking care of her hasn't been her experience at all. They didn't even talk to her mom about kicking her out. The mom just kicked out her 16 year old sister too.
Click to expand...

Hmm... What does that religion do again? :^D Not very noble kicking your kids out of the house. I was basing what I said off something I may or may not have read/heard a long time ago. The social insurance was the only redeeming quality I found with Mormonism, and apparently that was false. Just another cult I guess....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top