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Why was there so little outcry over the massacre at Fallujah?

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DCal430

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Where thousands of women and children were butchered or disfigured by U.S soldiers using incendiary bombs. Seems to me huge crime was committed, yet no one brought to justice.
 
DCal430 said:
Where thousands of women and children were butchered or disfigured by U.S soldiers using incendiary bombs. Seems to me huge crime was committed, yet no one brought to justice.
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Because we didn't care ? and still don't. Tell you what, get a degree in plastic surgery and spend your life making a difference over there. I'd even send you a quarter to help you on your way.
 
monovillage said:
Because we didn't care ? and still don't. Tell you what, get a degree in plastic surgery and spend your life making a difference over there. I'd even send you a quarter to help you on your way.
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Wow the U.S military butchers women and children and you don't care, very heartless.
 
DCal430 said:
Wow the U.S military butchers women and children and you don't care, very heartless.
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U.S. liberals murder far more human beings every day, you don't seem to mind that. I think you're the heartless one. You're just another hate America lefty that excuses murder in one form and condemns murder in another form. At least I'm consistent and don't give a damn either way.
 
monovillage said:
U.S. liberals murder far more human beings every day, you don't seem to mind that. I think you're the heartless one. You're just another hate America lefty that excuses murder in one form and condemns murder in another form. At least I'm consistent and don't give a damn either way.
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You sure don't sound like you don't give a damn about whatever librul murder you're referring to (abortion?). :hmm:
 
DCal430 said:
Where thousands of women and children were butchered or disfigured by U.S soldiers using incendiary bombs. Seems to me huge crime was committed, yet no one brought to justice.
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What the fuck kind of lies and bullshit are you talking about now? I was there and there was no butchering of women and children. The city was all but empty two days before we rolled in because they knew we were coming, it was a ghost town except for the pockets of insurgents we were fighting. The only massacre were the four Americans that really were butchered and hung from a bridge after being set on fire. Fucking moron.
 
xj0hnx said:
What the fuck kind of lies and bullshit are you talking about now? I was there and there was no butchering of women and children. The city was all but empty two days before we rolled in because they knew we were coming, it was a ghost town except for the pockets of insurgents we were fighting. The only massacre were the four Americans that really were butchered and hung from a bridge after being set on fire. Fucking moron.
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The "thousands butchered" he mentioned is undoubtedly bullshit but it's also bullshit to suggest that there was no civilian fallout (not that you were doing so). Realistic estimates put civilian casualties around the 800 mark along with the on going health problems suffered by the young living there.
 
WelshBloke said:
The "thousands butchered" he mentioned is undoubtedly bullshit but it's also bullshit to suggest that there was no civilian fallout (not that you were doing so). Realistic estimates put civilian casualties around the 800 mark along with the on going health problems suffered by the young living there.
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I'm sure there were some civilians somewhere in the city, 800 sounds high from what I saw, which was not a single person without a weapon. We cleared hundreds of houses, and buildings in our AO and the only thing we found were fighters and weapons caches. I did however see one younger teen, unfortunately for him he was firing an AK47 at our convoy.
 
There was no outcry because Fallujah was a cut and dry decision. They murdered 4 Americans and strung them up in the streets, sending the message that they were hostile to us, and willing to take action against us (not unlike Afghanistan on 9/11.)

So we spent days putting out the message in the city that we were coming, and you could leave peacefully and live, or stay, fight and die. A lot of fighters decided to make their stand, and they (along with the city) got wrecked. No incendiary ordinance was used in the battle though.
 
xj0hnx said:
I'm sure there were some civilians somewhere in the city, 800 sounds high from what I saw, which was not a single person without a weapon. We cleared hundreds of houses, and buildings in our AO and the only thing we found were fighters and weapons caches. I did however see one younger teen, unfortunately for him he was firing an AK47 at our convoy.
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There was a lot of artillery fired, you wouldn't necessarily see any victims of that, and it would target civilians hiding from the fighting as much as rebels.

I don't think anyone, even the OP (although I can't be sure about him), is suggesting that 800 civilians were mistakenly shot.

On a related note, the level of childhood mortality, cancers and deformities since the bombardment is reported to exceed that of hiroshima post nuke!
 
WelshBloke said:
On a related note, the level of childhood mortality, cancers and deformities since the bombardment is reported to exceed that of hiroshima post nuke!
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That's unfortunate, without doubt. Not like the up to 1,500,000 deaths the North Korean leadership caused among it's people, but sad.
 
Anyone in a war zone should either fight and die, surrender by stopping their own fighters, or GTFO. It is unfortunate when a major city becomes AO for a war, because civilians WILL die, but that's the price you pay for killing people.

Blood begets blood. Nothing unusual about Fallujah.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
That's unfortunate, without doubt. Not like the up to 1,500,000 deaths the North Korean leadership caused among it's people, but sad.
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Every time I see a post like this, it makes me sad, and it happens a lot on this board.

US military kills 500,000 innocent people.
So what? North Korean leadership has killed a lot more.
Ahhhh good that makes me feel better.
 
On another note, now that Obama has redefined Militant to include anyone of military age, you will be seeing a lot less civilian deaths on the part of the US.

Fuck ya
 
Orignal Earl said:
The facts would point out that there was a lot of killing going on way before you rolled in.
When exactly did you roll in? What outfit did you belong too?
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Huh? Killing before we rolled in? By the insurgents maybe, the city was under their control until we took it from them. November 8th, about 4 in the morning is when we started the attack, quite an intense barrage for a couple hours, and then ground forces went in. Let's see the invasion began from the north, so we, 2nd platoon C co. 82nd ENG attached to 2-63 Armor, and 2-2 INF, came down the eastern side of the city. Our first casualty was a 1st SGT within an hour of pushing in by a sniper. We provided support to the tank, clearing explosives, and houses/buildings from HUMVEE, and on foot. I saw a LOT of dead people, not a single female, or child. The first local woman I saw was a week after the invasion, as we were headed to a cas evac site she was returning to town.
 
Orignal Earl said:
On another note, now that Obama has redefined Militant to include anyone of military age, you will be seeing a lot less civilian deaths on the part of the US.

Fuck ya
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What does "military age" mean when they will put a machine gun in the hands of a ten year old?
 
Jaskalas said:
Anyone in a war zone should either fight and die, surrender by stopping their own fighters, or GTFO. It is unfortunate when a major city becomes AO for a war, because civilians WILL die, but that's the price you pay for killing people.

Blood begets blood. Nothing unusual about Fallujah.
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That's what's ridiculous about the OP's lies, the city was empty of civilian presence. If they weren't fighting they left town. There may have been a few that just wouldn't leave scattered about town, but we didn't see any.
 
xj0hnx said:
Huh? Killing before we rolled in? By the insurgents maybe, the city was under their control until we took it from them. November 8th, about 4 in the morning is when we started the attack, quite an intense barrage for a couple hours, and then ground forces went in. Let's see the invasion began from the north, so we, 2nd platoon C co. 82nd ENG attached to 2-63 Armor, and 2-2 INF, came down the eastern side of the city. Our first casualty was a 1st SGT within an hour of pushing in by a sniper. We provided support to the tank, clearing explosives, and houses/buildings from HUMVEE, and on foot. I saw a LOT of dead people, not a single female, or child. The first local woman I saw was a week after the invasion, as we were headed to a cas evac site she was returning to town.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah_during_the_Iraq_War

You seem to be unaware of how things went down.

What does "military age" mean when they will put a machine gun in the hands of a ten year old?
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I did not redefine Militant, the US did.
I would suggest you look it up
 
Orignal Earl said:
Every time I see a post like this, it makes me sad, and it happens a lot on this board.

US military kills 500,000 innocent people.
So what? North Korean leadership has killed a lot more.
Ahhhh good that makes me feel better.
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What makes me sad is those who can't or won't understand irony.
 
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