Why is the right wing media on cue sh1tting on Simone Biles?

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Disclaimer: my comments have NOTHING to do with politics. Please don't try to twist my comments to include anything political.

The other day, when she originally dropped out due to “mental health”, I brought the subject up to my wife and said it was very odd. Dropping out due “mental health” was very weird. Especially when someone who was recording commercials and having a goat stitched into her uniform, before the Olympics. Then she had issues during the warm-ups and her first round. She dropped out because of “mental health” issues. To be honest, I was HIGHLY offended because I have several people with bi-polar and other mental health issues in my family and friends. At the time, I told my wife this was suspect and she gained a lot of money and notoriety building herself up as being the “GOAT”, but now she is abandoning her team due to mental health? I said, something feels off.

Sure enough, two days later we find out she has the “twisties”, which is basically the “yips” for anyone who knows sports. This is not a “mental health” issue. It is HIGHLY offensive to drop out, abandon her team and claim she has a "mental health" issue. I’m sorry, the yips/twisties is NOT an actual mental health issue. Complete bullshit compared to people with REAL mental health issue. How the fuck does the press and normal people not realize this????

Do not use the term “mental health”. Use the real term, lack of confidence or nerves. That is what is really happening here. She has a lot of pressure and put too much on herself and the world did too, but it is NOT an actual “mental health” issue and is a fucking cop-out. She just couldn’t deal with it and I find it highly offensive that she just couldn’t support her team and blames a mental condition that isn’t real.

Note: This does not include her sexual abuse issues because she had no problem getting 5 golds in the last Olympics. Plus, she isn't using this as an excuse. Just wanted to note it.
 

brandonbull

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I agree, it's more shut up and dribble.
I saw a Facebook post shared by one of my cousins (...oof, family) about how she should have pushed through, Kerry strug vaulted while injured, blah blah.

Biles is the GOAT. Unquestionably. She has literally done things no other gymnast can do or is willing to attempt. She has raised the bar in the sport. She does not have to sacrifice herself for the glory of the country, whatever the that means anyway.
"And what is the glory of Rome?" -Marcus Aurelius (gladiator)
Funny that you would compare "shut up and dribble" to someone actually suffering the effects of abuse.
 
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Disclaimer: my comments have NOTHING to do with politics. Please don't try to twist my comments to include anything political.

The other day, when she originally dropped out due to “mental health”, I brought the subject up to my wife and said it was very odd. Dropping out due “mental health” was very weird. Especially when someone who was recording commercials and having a goat stitched into her uniform, before the Olympics. Then she had issues during the warm-ups and her first round. She dropped out because of “mental health” issues. To be honest, I was HIGHLY offended because I have several people with bi-polar and other mental health issues in my family and friends. At the time, I told my wife this was suspect and she gained a lot of money and notoriety building herself up as being the “GOAT”, but now she is abandoning her team due to mental health? I said, something feels off.

Sure enough, two days later we find out she has the “twisties”, which is basically the “yips” for anyone who knows sports. This is not a “mental health” issue. It is HIGHLY offensive to drop out, abandon her team and claim she has a "mental health" issue. I’m sorry, the yips/twisties is NOT an actual mental health issue. Complete bullshit compared to people with REAL mental health issue. How the fuck does the press and normal people not realize this????

Do not use the term “mental health”. Use the real term, lack of confidence or nerves. That is what is really happening here. She has a lot of pressure and put too much on herself and the world did too, but it is NOT an actual “mental health” issue and is a fucking cop-out. She just couldn’t deal with it and I find it highly offensive that she just couldn’t support her team and blames a mental condition that isn’t real.

Note: This does not include her sexual abuse issues because she had no problem getting 5 golds in the last Olympics. Plus, she isn't using this as an excuse. Just wanted to note it.


Extreme anxiety to the point of debilitating you that you may severely injure yourself if you continue to perform is not a mental health issue? What is it then? And who knows what else she is suffering from. You have zero diagnosis of her at your fingertips.

Whether or not she powered through the sexual abuse thing 5 years ago has nothing to do with how it may affect her now. Suppression is a hell of a drug. I am quite sure any mental health expert would agree with me way more than your bullshit analysis.

I'm bipolar I, my father suffered from major depression, and I take no offense to her categorizing an actual mental problem as a mental health issue.
 
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I mean, if you look at Kerri Strug, Dominique Moceanu, Simone Biles, et al how many golds did they collectively earn while they were being sexually abused? And how many have they collectively earned after the Nassar scandal broke? I think it's pretty clear that sexually abusing female gymnasts makes them better.

/s

But that's the vibe I get from a post or two back.
 

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Extreme anxiety to the point of debilitating you that you may severely injure yourself if you continue to perform is not a mental health issue? What is it then? And who knows what else she is suffering from. You have zero diagnosis of her at your fingertips.

Whether or not she powered through the sexual abuse thing 5 years ago has nothing to do with how it may affect her now. Suppression is a hell of a drug. I am quite sure any mental health expert would agree with me way more than your bullshit analysis.

I'm bipolar I, my father suffered from major depression, and I take no offense to her categorizing an actual mental problem as a mental health issue.
I have zero diagnosis and I'm not a doctor, but you claim she has extreme anxiety? Odd. It's not a bullshit analysis. I simply said something seemed off when she just up and quit on her events and said it was mental health. Two days later, she says it's the twisties. Those are her words, not mine. Look up the yips. I wouldn't call the twisties a mental health issues. We can only discuss what we are told. That's all.she could easily claim it was a panic attack or anxiety. I think everyone would understand. She is not saying that though. So it's sort of hypocritical to say I don't know what I'm talking about and you to claim it's "extreme anxiety".
 
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Awww yeah, the old tried and true "I'm not being an asshole so don't take my comments as me being an asshole. Now, I'm going to be an asshole but you're the asshole if you disagree..."

Uh, you straight up admitted you don't know what you're talking about, so if there's anyone being a hypocrite its you. It is entirely possible for you to just shut the fuck up and not spout off about things you go out of your way to admit you don't know about. Nah, why do that when you can talk out of your ass?

Plus, uh, what the fuck? How did she not support her team? Her pulling out helped the team by letting them put someone else in her place. So even if your "its not mental health!@!!@!!!!!!!!~!!!" claim is true, your fundamentally arguing a completely fucking stupid point that is outright refuted by what happened when her replacements performed well and enabled the team to get Silver still. If she'd acted mad that her replacements did well or if they faltered said she could have done better, maybe you'd have a point, but she absolutely supported her team so if that's your supposedly non-political take, then you're straight up a fucking moron so stupid that in order to justify your completely idiotic argument, you resorted to spouting off about shit you repeatedly admit you don't know about.
 
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Guys I'm starting to think that conservatives aren't being honest.

Oh, they actually are very honest. They want America to fail. The problem is that this isn't a recent thing with them. That has been their singular goal since the Civil War and they've been working towards that end ever since.
 

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Funny that you would compare "shut and dribble" to someone actually suffering the effects of abuse.
"shutup and dribble" is what conservatives are demanding of Biles, in a sense. In her case "shut up and jump, spin, twist, twirl and smile"
 
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Disclaimer: my comments have NOTHING to do with politics. Please don't try to twist my comments to include anything political.

The other day, when she originally dropped out due to “mental health”, I brought the subject up to my wife and said it was very odd. Dropping out due “mental health” was very weird. Especially when someone who was recording commercials and having a goat stitched into her uniform, before the Olympics. Then she had issues during the warm-ups and her first round. She dropped out because of “mental health” issues. To be honest, I was HIGHLY offended because I have several people with bi-polar and other mental health issues in my family and friends. At the time, I told my wife this was suspect and she gained a lot of money and notoriety building herself up as being the “GOAT”, but now she is abandoning her team due to mental health? I said, something feels off.

Sure enough, two days later we find out she has the “twisties”, which is basically the “yips” for anyone who knows sports. This is not a “mental health” issue. It is HIGHLY offensive to drop out, abandon her team and claim she has a "mental health" issue. I’m sorry, the yips/twisties is NOT an actual mental health issue. Complete bullshit compared to people with REAL mental health issue. How the fuck does the press and normal people not realize this????

Do not use the term “mental health”. Use the real term, lack of confidence or nerves. That is what is really happening here. She has a lot of pressure and put too much on herself and the world did too, but it is NOT an actual “mental health” issue and is a fucking cop-out. She just couldn’t deal with it and I find it highly offensive that she just couldn’t support her team and blames a mental condition that isn’t real.

Note: This does not include her sexual abuse issues because she had no problem getting 5 golds in the last Olympics. Plus, she isn't using this as an excuse. Just wanted to note it.
The yips is mental. Chuck Knoblock a former professional second baseman all of a sudden developed an inability to throw the ball for first. Throwing from 2nd to 1st is one of the easiest ones to make. His brain all of a sudden became disconnected from his arm. It wasn't physical.

Maybe a different category from someone who has schizophrenia. Maybe mental block would be more accurate
 

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I have zero diagnosis and I'm not a doctor, but you claim she has extreme anxiety? Odd. It's not a bullshit analysis. I simply said something seemed off when she just up and quit on her events and said it was mental health. Two days later, she says it's the twisties. Those are her words, not mine. Look up the yips. I wouldn't call the twisties a mental health issues. We can only discuss what we are told. That's all.she could easily claim it was a panic attack or anxiety. I think everyone would understand. She is not saying that though. So it's sort of hypocritical to say I don't know what I'm talking about and you to claim it's "extreme anxiety".

I can't think of any other term to describe performance anxiety. Sports often employee sports psychologists to help athletes. Do you think these psychologists are trained in things other than mental health?

Also, your claim that because shortly after the sex abuse scandal came out she performed well it can't be affecting her now is not correct in regards to trauma. You can read a bit about trauma suppression here


If her issues weren't mental in nature, what were they?
 

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I'm highly offended that I read that guy's drivel.

"shutup and dribble" is what conservatives are demanding of Biles, in a sense. In her case "shut up and jump, spin, twist, twirl and smile"
The grand irony is that if Simone Biles hadn't withdrawn, but instead had fallen on her routines and the team crashed off the podium, the same assholes would blame her for taking somebody else's spot in the team finals. Whether you support her move or not, she did it to optimize Team USA's chances for a medal.
 

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I can't think of any other term to describe performance anxiety. Sports often employee sports psychologists to help athletes. Do you think these psychologists are trained in things other than mental health?

Also, your claim that because shortly after the sex abuse scandal came out she performed well it can't be affecting her now is not correct in regards to trauma. You can read a bit about trauma suppression here


If her issues weren't mental in nature, what were they?
The yips is mental. Chuck Knoblock a former professional second baseman all of a sudden developed an inability to throw the ball for first. Throwing from 2nd to 1st is one of the easiest ones to make. His brain all of a sudden became disconnected from his arm. It wasn't physical.

Maybe a different category from someone who has schizophrenia. Maybe mental block would be more accurate
Gee, I wonder what part of the body anxiety comes from?
 
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Turns out she lost her aunt during the games too I heard? Throw that on the pile of mental anguish the poor girl's been dealing with.

But she got back in the zone, went and competed, grabbed a Bronze. Things can go a lot worse. Just be happy we got to see West Taiwan get super butthurt after losing to Taiwan. Watching those guys squirm during the anthem made me laugh. I bet Pooh Bear was not pleased haha.

Anyway, I get wanting to watch the Olympics even if I really don't, but these fake Americans rooting for failure and going out of their way to bash a worthy professional above reproach? Weak. Those assholes should be devoting their energy and time towards more pressing issues, like getting a god damn vaccine, maybe standing up for democracy instead of trying to kill it? Is flaming a woman more successful than you as gratifying as proclaiming a desire to protect the right to vote, while trying to destroy it? Beyond time to grow up losers. Get the fuck with it.
 

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Why is the mega-corporate owned media, that compromises like 95% of the news you can watch or read, always promoting Biles? This time, they seemed to be also defending her against any attack, whether real or perceived. (I am not right wing so don't assume I'm a Trump fan or a GOP supporters. Most you people cannot comprehend there are non-political people out there)
 

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Why is the mega-corporate owned media, that compromises like 95% of the news you can watch or read, always promoting Biles? This time, they seemed to be also defending her against any attack, whether real or perceived. (I am not right wing so don't assume I'm a Trump fan or a GOP supporters. Most you people cannot comprehend there are non-political people out there)
Uuugh maybe it's why they give the same treatment to Tom Brady.

What problem do you have with them doing it for Biles?

What I posted was less about Biles being promoted but why conservatives as a group decided to shit on her.
 
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Uuugh maybe it's why they give the same treatment to Tom Brady.

What problem do you have with them doing it for Biles?
Nothing. I'm just countering your left vs right narrative. Both sides suck. I don't care for Brady or Biles either way. Though seeing very highly touted, high profile athletes suddenly quit in the middle of a world-state competition is somewhat rare.
 

HomerJS

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Nothing. I'm just countering your left vs right narrative. Both sides suck. I don't care for Brady or Biles either way. Though seeing very highly touted, high profile athletes suddenly quit in the middle of a world-state competition is somewhat rare.
This wasn't a vs anything. It was getting an answer to what seems to be a single minded decision like the Borg all gang up on her. Why did she deserve that kind of treatment and what were they really saying?
 

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This wasn't a vs anything. It was getting an answer to what seems to be a single minded decision like the Borg all gang up on her. Why did she deserve that kind of treatment and what were they really saying?
I did not see any mean coverage of her in the typical news outlets. AP, Yahoo, ESPN, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NY Times, Youtube, Google, ABC, etc all are praising her day and night. Those right wingers you speak of only reach a fraction of the audience of the aforementioned outlets. Do not be worried. Your side generally owns the narrative.

If the few remaining right wing outlets do attack her, well I don't know. They simply say stuff like "She made America look weak due to quitting" and such. Is that qualified as an attack on her? I guess it depends on how you look at it.
 

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Disclaimer: my comments have NOTHING to do with politics. Please don't try to twist my comments to include anything political.

The other day, when she originally dropped out due to “mental health”, I brought the subject up to my wife and said it was very odd. Dropping out due “mental health” was very weird. Especially when someone who was recording commercials and having a goat stitched into her uniform, before the Olympics. Then she had issues during the warm-ups and her first round. She dropped out because of “mental health” issues. To be honest, I was HIGHLY offended because I have several people with bi-polar and other mental health issues in my family and friends. At the time, I told my wife this was suspect and she gained a lot of money and notoriety building herself up as being the “GOAT”, but now she is abandoning her team due to mental health? I said, something feels off.

Sure enough, two days later we find out she has the “twisties”, which is basically the “yips” for anyone who knows sports. This is not a “mental health” issue. It is HIGHLY offensive to drop out, abandon her team and claim she has a "mental health" issue. I’m sorry, the yips/twisties is NOT an actual mental health issue. Complete bullshit compared to people with REAL mental health issue. How the fuck does the press and normal people not realize this????

Do not use the term “mental health”. Use the real term, lack of confidence or nerves. That is what is really happening here. She has a lot of pressure and put too much on herself and the world did too, but it is NOT an actual “mental health” issue and is a fucking cop-out. She just couldn’t deal with it and I find it highly offensive that she just couldn’t support her team and blames a mental condition that isn’t real.

Note: This does not include her sexual abuse issues because she had no problem getting 5 golds in the last Olympics. Plus, she isn't using this as an excuse. Just wanted to note it.

Thats not all about what the the twisties are. Yes, its a mental breakdown of sorts, but it causes gymnasts who perform in the air (beam, floor, horse, bars) to lose track of where they are mid-flight during flips etc. That can cause serious injuries.

edit: Gymnastics: What are the twisties? (olympics.com)
 

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Well it was "loss of confidence" in a way. As in:
"I'm having trouble figuring out where I am in the air, so I'm not confident I can complete this routine without breaking my freaking neck".
 

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I did not see any mean coverage of her in the typical news outlets. AP, Yahoo, ESPN, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NY Times, Youtube, Google, ABC, etc all are praising her day and night. Those right wingers you speak of only reach a fraction of the audience of the aforementioned outlets. Do not be worried. Your side generally owns the narrative.

If the few remaining right wing outlets do attack her, well I don't know. They simply say stuff like "She made America look weak due to quitting" and such. Is that qualified as an attack on her? I guess it depends on how you look at it.
In this country lies own the narrative. Just look at Jan 6, fake election audits, the big lie, etc.

Lying is why 50% of Republicans thought Obama was a Kenyan interloper.
 
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Nothing. I'm just countering your left vs right narrative. Both sides suck. I don't care for Brady or Biles either way. Though seeing very highly touted, high profile athletes suddenly quit in the middle of a world-state competition is somewhat rare.
Mr. Bothsides is now on my list.
 
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An inside look at the Tokyo suburban gym that Biles has been privately using to train during the Olympics.


It appears that she worked very hard to overcome the mental slump she was in. They interview a Japanese guy who observed her training there and he said she wasn't landing things she normally would be able to do.

She evidently ended up focusing on the balance beam because it didn't involve mid air "twisting" as the balance beam is a linear plane. Which is why she ended up competing in that event.

Whatever the reason for her slump - maybe she just psyched herself out - it's clear that she really didn't want to quit. She tried hard to get herself fit to compete, working out constantly in private.
 

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Now Fox is going ga ga over Tamyra Mensah-Stock who won Gold in Women’s Wrestling because she said she loved America and said she loves living here.