SteveGrabowski
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Don't know why I bothered responding to Greenman, of course he was going to double down on being a little whiny entitled bitch. Should have just told him to go fuck himself and moved on.
I wonder why criticism of Luck didn't go anywhere near as viral as criticism of Biles. A real mystery.Luck isn’t the best example to support the common opinion expressed in this thread, which is that Biles is being criticized because she’s female and/or black. Luck quit because of repeated physical injuries , not emotional distress. But Luck was nonetheless called a pussy by some commentators over it. And he’s white, and male.
Yup, it strokes every degenerate chord.so not only do i think there's plenty of racism/misogyny tied into this, but it occurred to me that there's plenty of fascism(?) too.
you must sacrifice yourself for the glory of the state, lest you disgrace yourself on the world stage.
fuck that.
Labeling someone a quitter is a lot different than the textbook definition of quitter. Think about an artisan craftsman working on his latest piece, and at some point he realizes it isn't working so he quits that piece and moves on to the next one. Greenman thinks he will always be known as a quitter and that's totally not a result of deep-seated bias. You know, because he technically quit so he fits the textbook definition of a quitter.She removed herself from the competition. She quit. That's undeniable. But this conspiracy thing you have going on is pretty weird.
Right now, Simone lacks confidence. It happens to all gymnasts at one time or another.
The one's that tell other conservatives what to think really care. I posted the evidence.It's hilarious because everyone here is speaking on behalf of conservatives.....inyet... Conservatives just don't give a shit lol.
I read that it is often induced by stress.Confidence is a symptom of the problem, it is not the problem itself.
It has been described as common in gymnastics, where the person can no longer feel themselves in the air. It is a physical inability to perform the tasks required. Not mere confidence, and certainly not mental illness. Those ideas lead to false claims of "quitting" by the hate mongers out there.
Don't know why I bothered responding to Greenman, of course he was going to double down on being a little whiny entitled bitch. Should have just told him to go fuck himself and moved on.
They have endless buckets of chum to toss in the water, and needed a target. She was an easy one.a lot of people think they dont like quitters but this goes way beyond that.
She is not a quitter.
The conservative propaganda people have decided to target her for a multitude of reasons not the least of which is its a good distraction from whatever the republican party is doing wrong at the moment. They know their fan base is easily distracted and a black woman doing something for herself is perfect news fodder.
Pathetic that you see the world that way.Or it could be that a lot of people don't like quitters. Grim determination goes a long way in building respect.
Personally, I don't care. She had a bad day, decided she couldn't cut it, and quit. That's her right, it's her decision to make. I have to assume she considered the effort and cost of making it to the Olympics, and decided quitting was the best answer.
It's a sad that she'll always be remembered as the one that gave up. That decision, right or wrong, is the difference between being remembered as a hero, or a zero.
Why does she have to apologize for not being fit enough to compete on the highest stage, particularly when others are available and can? I mean do you want your doctor doing surgery on you when he's physically or mentally not ready to go? Or a pilot flying your plane?
At the end of the day, people just don't respect the need for mental fitness when it's just as important as being physically fit. A lack of mental fitness is in part why cops are shooting unarmed people on the street.
You're getting all semantic here. There's no denying that she lacks confidence if she can't feel herself in the air. Obviously she fears it will happen again or she'd be totally unconcerned. That is lack of confidence, unquestionably.Confidence is a symptom of the problem, it is not the problem itself.
It has been described as common in gymnastics, where the person can no longer feel themselves in the air. It is a physical inability to perform the tasks required. Not mere confidence, and certainly not mental illness. Those ideas lead to false claims of "quitting" by the hate mongers out there.
And quite sad. Imagination is better than gold.Pathetic that you see the world that way.
The difference between Simone Biles and the "average" Olympic athlete is that when she performs she's constantly at risk of suffering an injury that could mess her up for life, literally. People hold their breath while watching her. There's no question that she has every right in the world to not perform and not suffer any criticism for that decision. NONE!I don’t think her critics are saying she must apologize for being unfit. I think they’re questioning whether she really is unfit. I think the unfortunate aspect of this was her timing. Had she decided months ago to retire from gymnastics and not attend this olympics, I don’t think there’d have been much criticism because this happens eventually to every athlete. Olympians in particular tend to retire in their 20’s, often in their early to mid 20’s.
The problem is that she went to the Olympics, had a couple of bad days, then quit. These people think she was so used to being perfect all the time, that she quit out of a fear of failure. The way they see it, every athlete has a bad day, but they’re supposed to be tough enough to pick themselves up and continue to compete.
For myself, if any athlete says they are unfit, I’m going to take them at their word because no one is better able to make that determination than they. But it doesn’t surprise me that not everyone sees it that way. Given the common perception that top athletes are like inhuman cyborgs who are mentally tough enough to get through anything.
While these right wing critics have suspect motives, some of their arguments may resonate with people who are not on the right, and may persist regardless of gender or race.
If you go back and watch the prelims, it looked like she was going to barf before her first event, so there was something brewing before she made a single mistake.I don’t think her critics are saying she must apologize for being unfit. I think they’re questioning whether she really is unfit. I think the unfortunate aspect of this was her timing. Had she decided months ago to retire from gymnastics and not attend this olympics, I don’t think there’d have been much criticism because this happens eventually to every athlete. Olympians in particular tend to retire in their 20’s, often in their early to mid 20’s.
The problem is that she went to the Olympics, had a couple of bad days, then quit. These people think she was so used to being perfect all the time, that she quit out of a fear of failure. The way they see it, every athlete has a bad day, but they’re supposed to be tough enough to pick themselves up and continue to compete.
For myself, if any athlete says they are unfit, I’m going to take them at their word because no one is better able to make that determination than they. But it doesn’t surprise me that not everyone sees it that way. Given the common perception that top athletes are like inhuman cyborgs who are mentally tough enough to get through anything.
While these right wing critics have suspect motives, some of their arguments may resonate with people who are not on the right, and may persist regardless of gender or race.
GOAT gonna GOAT!Biles has evidently decided to compete in the balance beam finals tomorrow.
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Simone Biles: US gymnast to take part in Tuesday's balance beam final at Tokyo 2020 | CNN
Team USA gymnast Simone Biles will take part in Tuesday's balance beam final at the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, USA Gymnastics has confirmed.www.cnn.com
And that right there truly is the crux of the issue. You think your outside looking in, I think you can't see the forest through the trees.
I don't think your brand of stupid is any better than any other.
