Oh I landed my friend who is graduating high school next week a job at Best Buy. I guess I know what to tell you, so PM me for any questions
Kishan
Kishan
no work experience = nobody wants you.
I started working after my freshman year, I find it fairly easy to find little summer jobs now.
I started working after my freshman year, I find it fairly easy to find little summer jobs now.
ed21x
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ok, i figured since you are relatively young, and still in that naive High school bubble of thinking that an inflated GPA (5.5 for an AP Class? WTF?), and a relatively upper mid tier school will impress someone. Truth is, once college hits you, you'll realize that a typical exam is 987214398x harder than the SATs, and thus most jobs really wouldn't care about your SATs or GPA. The only thing left is work experience and personality. Judging from how you're trying to impress us with your numbers, i would think that you are lacking in the humility department- and that probably is your downfall.
Oh, give it a break.
Sounds more like a "Look at my GPA, how smart I am" thread.
If a s0-called smart guy like yourself can't find a job in Fla, you're dumb contary to what your GPA might represent.
Sounds more like a "Look at my GPA, how smart I am" thread.
If a s0-called smart guy like yourself can't find a job in Fla, you're dumb contary to what your GPA might represent.
The problem is a person's GPA does not correspond with their intelligence. Therefore, especially in my field (CS), tests and questions are mandatory for the hiring process and are infinitly more telling than any GPA. Friends of mine who work at Agilent were taking tests for 8! hours for an entry level position
Keep trying. It took me 5 job interviews to get my first job after graduating from high school.
If you cant find a job this summer, why dont you just go to college early and hang out? Go find a professor or something and do research? or take some summer school courses.
If you cant find a job this summer, why dont you just go to college early and hang out? Go find a professor or something and do research? or take some summer school courses.
Heh. I had to take it down to quarterly grading to get Excel Solver to give me 0 difference on both the rounded unweighted and weighted GPAs. Then it kept insisting on giving me 1/4 fractions of AP classes.
that's why people should tailor their resume to each job they are applying for. If you are applying for a retail position, you shouldn't be filling half the resume with a list of your academic achievements. It just establishes you as someone who won't be hanging around for long, and who probably won't be suited to the job anyway. All of the grade scores, academic achievements, etc. should be stripped out of the resume. He does probably need to highlight that he has had some experience interacting with customers, whether it was thru volunteer work at the YMCA or whatever else. Apart from that, he needs to highlight that he works well with others, can take direction, is personable, will be OK with customers, etc. He hasn't done any of these things, unfortunately.
I don't agree it would be pointless. You do actually learn useful stuff even in crappy jobs. Things like dealing with difficult managers, dealing with asshole customers, etc. That kind of knowledge is going to be useful in any future jobs.
So what exactly does a high GPA measure? I'd argue that it indicates a mastery of the subject matter presented. Which in itself may be of little use - I rarely if ever use the material I learned in undergrad, or even grad school. What it indicates is an ability & willingness to learn and a drive to be succesful at it. You can come by it in two ways in my experience - lots of hard work by a moderatly bright person (ie. strong work ethic), or little effort by someone very intelligent. I'd say that either trait is highly sought after depending on the environment, and most people are somewhere between those extremes.
Regarding testing ... I can't imagine a single test - even one 8 hours long - being a good predictor of success in the jobs I've had. None of them have involved stuff taught in undergrad programs to more then a supeficial level. The only thing I could see testing on is math. What has been important is a strong work ethic, the ability to learn quickly and independently, creativity, and the ability to do research. At the entry level, you look for that, then grow your own so to speak. Academic performance certainly doesn't address all of that, except at the graduate level, but I'd take somebody who stuck it out and did well over 4 years at a good school over somebody that manages to do very well in a single test. It might be the right answer for some positions, but nothing that I've worked in.
I only read your first sentence, but I think people are confusing intelligence with brilliance. Intelligence is busting your arse and applying that knowledge. Brilliance is just being that damn good.
I disagree. They're confusing intelligence with drive, determination, and a work ethic. Intelligence is the CAPACITY to apply knowledge. Doesn't necessary imply that the person DOES do it. If that was true, ALL intelligent people would get good grades and be successful.
The central problem to this job hunt is that he's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole thinking that if he uses enough raw power, it'll do the trick.
The central problem to this job hunt is that he's trying to fit a square peg into a round hole thinking that if he uses enough raw power, it'll do the trick.
This has been bothering me:
To have a weighted GPA > 5, you need to take APs > 2x regular classes. How did you manage that??
JulesMaximus
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Here's a clue: Nobody hiring for retail sales gives a rat's ass what your grades are in high school or what clubs you were in or what kind of scholarships you have. They are looking for someone with personality who can sell stuff to the blithering idiots who come into their stores.
BTW-Your interest in computers and electronics is probably not helping you get the jobs you want. It's like saying you want to be a cop because you know a lot about guns. Tell them you are very outgoing and like to help people. Don't mention your keen interest in computers and technical stuff.
BTW-Your interest in computers and electronics is probably not helping you get the jobs you want. It's like saying you want to be a cop because you know a lot about guns. Tell them you are very outgoing and like to help people. Don't mention your keen interest in computers and technical stuff.
It's a waste of time to apply for a summer position now. You need to do that over spring break.
WTF, are you serious?!
I thought honors and AP were 5.0 each!
If that's the case, my GPA just rose a few tenths of a point!
Then your school gives an unfair advantage to its students. Sometimes I wish there was a set guideline for GPA. Only problem is -- there's always going to be some schools who aren't going to follow it.
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