Originally posted by: MAME
are you starting to realize how little grades matter in the real world?
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: notfred
BEcause everyone thinks that you're making up your resume, because no school I've ever heard of makes it possible to get better than a 5.0 GPA?
Or maybe because you're going to Northwestern in the fall and they dont want to hire someone for a month or two.
Or possibly you just sound arrogant in interviews.
A regular class is a 4.0 for an A, honors is 5.0, AP is 5.5.
Originally posted by: Reikon
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: notfred
BEcause everyone thinks that you're making up your resume, because no school I've ever heard of makes it possible to get better than a 5.0 GPA?
Or maybe because you're going to Northwestern in the fall and they dont want to hire someone for a month or two.
Or possibly you just sound arrogant in interviews.
A regular class is a 4.0 for an A, honors is 5.0, AP is 5.5.
Wtf is that? I've never seen a grading system like that. All the schools around here give 4 points for an A in regular and honors and 5 points for an A in AP classes.
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Ive applied to 10 different places (retail stores, ie best buy, circuit city, ritz camera, etc., I dont want to work in a restaurant) and not one has hired me, or even called me for an interview. I started applying a month ago. I can't figure this out. Anyone have any job search tips?
These places dont really ask for much other than references, highest degree, gpa, school attending, awards. But heres my resume basically (edited for AT):
Valedictorian Class of 2005
Weighted GPA: 5.065
Unweighted GPA: 3.99
SAT: 800 Verbal; 780 Math
Ford Motor Company Scholar
National Merit Scholarship Winner
AP Scholar with Disticntion
Will attend Northwestern University in Fall (Not until Mid-September)
Attended Stanford University in Summer of 2004, took classes in
Computer Science and Economics
Very knowledgeable with computer software and
hardware, building and repairing systems
West Broward YMCA Volunteer - over 500 hours of service
My referrences are very strong.
I dont have work experience, but you gotta start somewhere...
I dont think my apperance is lacking...
My Pic
I think I'm very humble too. I dont think I would give off the impression of being snobby or superior in an interview.
To clarify the weight:
A regular class is a 4.0 for an A, honors is 5.0, AP is 5.5.
Originally posted by: SouthPaW1227
Originally posted by: Reikon
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: notfred
BEcause everyone thinks that you're making up your resume, because no school I've ever heard of makes it possible to get better than a 5.0 GPA?
Or maybe because you're going to Northwestern in the fall and they dont want to hire someone for a month or two.
Or possibly you just sound arrogant in interviews.
A regular class is a 4.0 for an A, honors is 5.0, AP is 5.5.
Wtf is that? I've never seen a grading system like that. All the schools around here give 4 points for an A in regular and honors and 5 points for an A in AP classes.
It's not that unusual. As a matter of fact, many colleges grade on a 4.5 GPA scale instead of 4.0, so it gets tricky.
But yes, grades ONLY help you get a connection, beyond that connection, it is 100% how you communicate and market yourself. And btw, what "high school" you went to is completely not important. IT'S HIGH SCHOOL FOR HEAVENS SAKE! I went to a ghetto-fied crapshoot of a high school, made great grades (obviously, they hadta dumb down everything) and got into a great university (same as Anand, matter of fact) and now have an internship paying more than my mother made 10 years into her career. It's who ya know, and how ya present yourself. My interview did not even brush across the subject of academics.
Originally posted by: aidanjm
How is your resume formatted? Seeing as you have no work history maybe you should be going with a skills-based resume instead of a chronological resume. You need to work out what skills and experiences you have, which are relevant to the jobs you are applying for, and then draw attention to those skills/ experiences. Have you had any kind of experience doing customer service? It wouldn't have to be a paid job, it could be volunteer work, etc. Are you tailoring your resume for each job you apply for? Why are you telling potential employees that you will be pissing off to university in a few months time? Why on earth would they hire you if they know you're going to leave almost immediately?
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: aidanjm
How is your resume formatted? Seeing as you have no work history maybe you should be going with a skills-based resume instead of a chronological resume. You need to work out what skills and experiences you have, which are relevant to the jobs you are applying for, and then draw attention to those skills/ experiences. Have you had any kind of experience doing customer service? It wouldn't have to be a paid job, it could be volunteer work, etc. Are you tailoring your resume for each job you apply for? Why are you telling potential employees that you will be pissing off to university in a few months time? Why on earth would they hire you if they know you're going to leave almost immediately?
They have specific apps, so I dont attach a resume. And I have over 500 volunteer hours at my YMCA, and I listed the director who knows me well (for 14 years) as a referrence. And I'm not telling them that, cause they ask for where you got you degrees from, but I havent gotten on from there.
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: aidanjm
How is your resume formatted? Seeing as you have no work history maybe you should be going with a skills-based resume instead of a chronological resume. You need to work out what skills and experiences you have, which are relevant to the jobs you are applying for, and then draw attention to those skills/ experiences. Have you had any kind of experience doing customer service? It wouldn't have to be a paid job, it could be volunteer work, etc. Are you tailoring your resume for each job you apply for? Why are you telling potential employees that you will be pissing off to university in a few months time? Why on earth would they hire you if they know you're going to leave almost immediately?
They have specific apps, so I dont attach a resume. And I have over 500 volunteer hours at my YMCA, and I listed the director who knows me well (for 14 years) as a referrence. And I'm not telling them I'm going away, cause they ask for where you got you degrees from, but I havent gotten on from there.
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
there are too many people looking for work.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
there are too many people looking for work.
Do you have proof of that?
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: aidanjm
How is your resume formatted? Seeing as you have no work history maybe you should be going with a skills-based resume instead of a chronological resume. You need to work out what skills and experiences you have, which are relevant to the jobs you are applying for, and then draw attention to those skills/ experiences. Have you had any kind of experience doing customer service? It wouldn't have to be a paid job, it could be volunteer work, etc. Are you tailoring your resume for each job you apply for? Why are you telling potential employees that you will be pissing off to university in a few months time? Why on earth would they hire you if they know you're going to leave almost immediately?
They have specific apps, so I dont attach a resume. And I have over 500 volunteer hours at my YMCA, and I listed the director who knows me well (for 14 years) as a referrence. And I'm not telling them that, cause they ask for where you got you degrees from, but I havent gotten on from there.
Filling out generic applciations and turnuing them in to some nobody who makes minimum wage will get you nowhere. Next time you go into a store, don't say "Can I get an application" to the guy at the counter. Say "can I speak with the manager?"
If the manager's not there, ask when he will be, and come back. When you get to talk to the manager, ask if there are any positions available, what the qualifications are, etc. Have a decent conversation. Make the manager like you and remember you. THEN you fill out an application.
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: mzkhadir
there are too many people looking for work.
Do you have proof of that?
yu don't need proof. Just look at the job market. The professional market is bad enough, but the part time market is horrible, especially now now since everyone ha sbeen hored for teh summer one month ago.
Anyways...OP, your timing is awful. For summer positions, you need to fill out applications in April. Also, when you work in retail places, they couldn't care less about your GPA and skills. All they care about is if you are able to work the hours they need. Since you only want to work in the summer, you basically told them you cannot work the hours the need when the summer is over. Youe best bet may be you local super market, but even they are probably filled up.
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: aidanjm
How is your resume formatted? Seeing as you have no work history maybe you should be going with a skills-based resume instead of a chronological resume. You need to work out what skills and experiences you have, which are relevant to the jobs you are applying for, and then draw attention to those skills/ experiences. Have you had any kind of experience doing customer service? It wouldn't have to be a paid job, it could be volunteer work, etc. Are you tailoring your resume for each job you apply for? Why are you telling potential employees that you will be pissing off to university in a few months time? Why on earth would they hire you if they know you're going to leave almost immediately?
They have specific apps, so I dont attach a resume. And I have over 500 volunteer hours at my YMCA, and I listed the director who knows me well (for 14 years) as a referrence. And I'm not telling them that, cause they ask for where you got you degrees from, but I havent gotten on from there.
Filling out generic applciations and turnuing them in to some nobody who makes minimum wage will get you nowhere. Next time you go into a store, don't say "Can I get an application" to the guy at the counter. Say "can I speak with the manager?"
If the manager's not there, ask when he will be, and come back. When you get to talk to the manager, ask if there are any positions available, what the qualifications are, etc. Have a decent conversation. Make the manager like you and remember you. THEN you fill out an application.
exactly. When I got my night job a K-mart, I didn't ask for an app, I asked to see their personnel director, and asked her if they were hiring. I got an interview right on the spot. As soon as I said I knew stuff about computers, i was back in electronics.
Of course, it helps to know that most retail stores go on a April-October schedule.![]()
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: Krk3561
Originally posted by: aidanjm
How is your resume formatted? Seeing as you have no work history maybe you should be going with a skills-based resume instead of a chronological resume. You need to work out what skills and experiences you have, which are relevant to the jobs you are applying for, and then draw attention to those skills/ experiences. Have you had any kind of experience doing customer service? It wouldn't have to be a paid job, it could be volunteer work, etc. Are you tailoring your resume for each job you apply for? Why are you telling potential employees that you will be pissing off to university in a few months time? Why on earth would they hire you if they know you're going to leave almost immediately?
They have specific apps, so I dont attach a resume. And I have over 500 volunteer hours at my YMCA, and I listed the director who knows me well (for 14 years) as a referrence. And I'm not telling them that, cause they ask for where you got you degrees from, but I havent gotten on from there.
Filling out generic applciations and turnuing them in to some nobody who makes minimum wage will get you nowhere. Next time you go into a store, don't say "Can I get an application" to the guy at the counter. Say "can I speak with the manager?"
If the manager's not there, ask when he will be, and come back. When you get to talk to the manager, ask if there are any positions available, what the qualifications are, etc. Have a decent conversation. Make the manager like you and remember you. THEN you fill out an application.
exactly. When I got my night job a K-mart, I didn't ask for an app, I asked to see their personnel director, and asked her if they were hiring. I got an interview right on the spot. As soon as I said I knew stuff about computers, i was back in electronics.
Of course, it helps to know that most retail stores go on a April-October schedule.![]()
Alright, well next time around I'll remember that. Thanks for your advice, and aidanjm and notfred too
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: MAME
are you starting to realize how little grades matter in the real world?
Grades do matter in the real world - college admissions, first job out of college, etc. But they mean jack for these kinds of summer jobs.