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HomerJS

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will you bet your life that voting fraud doesnt exist?
That's not the point. Name one time we've had a PERFECT election. Besides I just got telling you real fraud exists, Republicans committed it. Have Republicans made and changes in law to mitigate fraud after votes are cast?
 

killster1

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That's not the point. Name one time we've had a PERFECT election
hahahahahhahaha so funny, ok lets not worry about it then, its already fuct lets just leave it as is ;) guess there is fraud then if you wouldnt bet.. oops
 

Pohemi

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will you bet your life that voting fraud doesnt exist?
Will you stop being so stupid, please? No one has claimed there is absolutely no voting fraud ever. Now go show me where voting fraud amounts to more than .1% of votes. Anywhere. You won't, because you can't even if you made an actual effort, which I know 110% you will not.

Fuck off, disingenuous shit.
 

killster1

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nah @fskimospy he just wants to project and troll others :rolleyes:

He's on ignore now since all he's doing is shitting up the thread(s).
Will you stop being so stupid, please? No one has claimed there is absolutely no voting fraud ever. Now go show me where voting fraud amounts to more than .1% of votes. Anywhere. You won't, because you can't even if you made an actual effort, which I know 110% you will not.

Fuck off.
i can prove your a two face liar :) LULZ thanks for so much laughs, you really came through.
 

fskimospy

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I know first hand people who have committed fraud voting! will i throw them under the bus? nah.. but its not that complicated to vote for someone that you know is not going to vote to begin with. LIke me! ive never voted once hahahahahha
Oh so your Canadian girlfriend does it all the time. Very convincing.

Like I said, put up or shut up. Provide us with real evidence in person voter fraud exists on a meaningful scale. If you can’t provide this evidence just admit it.
 

Pohemi

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i can prove your a two face liar :) LULZ thanks for so much laughs, you really came through.
Really? Another worthless, "gotchya!" comment? Yeah, because there isn't a button to show ignored content at a whim, amirite? Fucking moron.
 
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killster1

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Oh so your Canadian girlfriend does it all the time. Very convincing.

Like I said, put up or shut up. Provide us with real evidence in person voter fraud exists on a meaningful scale. If you can’t provide this evidence just admit it.
yes it has to be a meaningful scale to matter right? Anything that is .1% we should just let it go.. like rape child porn etc hey we dont need to crack down or worry about it.. just .1% (OF easily proven INSTANCES Just imagine the real number)
 

Pohemi

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Like I said, put up or shut up. Provide us with real evidence in person voter fraud exists on a meaningful scale. If you can’t provide this evidence just admit it.
Or...ANY type of fraud, in-person involving IDs (or not having them) or otherwise. He can't. Like I said...he's likely just being an idiot to troll, now.

If he's seriously this retarded, I fucking hope he hasn't reproduced.
 

killster1

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Or...ANY type of fraud, in-person involving IDs (or not having them) or otherwise. He can't. Like I said...he's likely just being an idiot to troll, now.

If he's seriously this retarded, I fucking hope he hasn't reproduced.
yup if you cant prove it dont worry about it.. who am i to prove anythign anyway? prove your not a ..... come on more insults so cool, you are SO TOUGH!! makes your points like 100x more valid to throw in your tough girl attitude.
 

fskimospy

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yes it has to be a meaningful scale to matter right? Anything that is .1% we should just let it go.. like rape child porn etc hey we dont need to crack down or worry about it.. just .1% (OF easily proven INSTANCES Just imagine the real number)
Yes, of course it has to rise to a meaningful scale before we start taking away people’s right to vote. This is common sense and is a standard we use for all laws.

I can easily prove to you that rape and child porn exist, and exist at a significant enough scale to merit action against them. So now it’s your turn. Show is that in person voter fraud exists at large enough levels that it’s worth disenfranchising millions of eligible voters.

Come on, show us the data. You can do it!
 

fskimospy

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yup if you cant prove it dont worry about it.. who am i to prove anythign anyway? prove your not a ..... come on more insults so cool, you are SO TOUGH!! makes your points like 100x more valid to throw in your tough girl attitude.
While the government is spending its time defending us from evidence-free threats should they also deploy a few brigades on Flying Spaghetti Monster duty to make sure it doesn’t attack us with its noodly appendage?
 

fskimospy

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Or...ANY type of fraud, in-person involving IDs (or not having them) or otherwise. He can't. Like I said...he's likely just being an idiot to troll, now.

If he's seriously this retarded, I fucking hope he hasn't reproduced.
To me it sounds like he’s more used to yelling at his family about politics at thanksgiving where you’re rewarded by being louder and sillier than anyone else and nobody is expected to back up what they say. When he’s asked to actually provide facts to support his argument he’s lost so he yells more.
 

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Yes, of course it has to rise to a meaningful scale before we start taking away people’s right to vote. This is common sense and is a standard we use for all laws.

I can easily prove to you that rape and child porn exist, and exist at a significant enough scale to merit action against them. So now it’s your turn. Show is that in person voter fraud exists at large enough levels that it’s worth disenfranchising millions of eligible voters.

Come on, show us the data. You can do it!
your only argument is that everyone doesnt do it.. so everyone doesnt rape either.. so we shouldnt try to stop them with any extra measures right.. wouldnt want to hurt feelings
 

Pohemi

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yup if you cant prove it dont worry about it.. who am i to prove anythign anyway? prove your not a ..... come on more insults so cool, you are SO TOUGH!! makes your points like 100x more valid to throw in your tough girl attitude.
You haven't proven anything, nor made a point besides you think that disenfranchising certain groups of voters is necessary. You still refuse to show why it would be justified.
Come on, show us the data. You can do it!
Give him some time, he'll have to create it from thin air.
 

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To me it sounds like he’s more used to yelling at his family about politics at thanksgiving where you’re rewarded by being louder and sillier than anyone else and nobody is expected to back up what they say. When he’s asked to actually provide facts to support his argument he’s lost so he yells more.
i guess you missed the part where i said i have NEVER VOTED. so why would i argue with my family about politics.. (not that i would they are republicans not someone on / for welfare for all duhh)
 

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You haven't proven anything, nor made a point besides you think that disenfranchising certain groups of voters is necessary. You still refuse to show why it would be justified.

Give him some time, he'll have to create it from thin air.
who is the certain group you speak of? Do only a certain group of people refuse to get ID?
 

fskimospy

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your only argument is that everyone doesnt do it.. so everyone doesnt rape either.. so we shouldnt try to stop them with any extra measures right.. wouldnt want to hurt feelings
No, my argument is that we shouldn’t take away the right to vote from people without evidence that it is necessary.

Your entire argument is based on your feeling that this is widespread. What I’m asking you to do is put your feelings aside and use facts instead.

No feels, only facts. Provide your facts.
 

killster1

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No, my argument is that we shouldn’t take away the right to vote from people without evidence that it is necessary.

Your entire argument is based on your feeling that this is widespread. What I’m asking you to do is put your feelings aside and use facts instead.

No feels, only facts. Provide your facts.
nope even if fraud is indeed .1% i think we should not allow it. You think feelings is more important than integrity OK i read you loud and clear. doesnt matter what either of us think right..
 

fskimospy

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i guess you missed the part where i said i have NEVER VOTED. so why would i argue with my family about politics.. (not that i would they are republicans not someone on / for welfare for all duhh)
It doesn’t have to be about politics, this applies to anything.

Prove us wrong, stop ranting and screaming and give us facts.
 

fskimospy

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nope even if fraud is indeed .1% i think we should not allow it. You think feelings is more important than integrity OK i read you loud and clear. doesnt matter what either of us think right..
We already don’t allow it.

You’re saying we should undertake additional restrictions that will certainly prevent eligible voters from voting. Show me the facts as to why that’s a choice we should make and why it will make voting and elections better.

Again, it’s kind of amusing that your entire argument is based on your emotions and your feelings and you don’t seem to have noticed this, haha.

Again, stop with the emotional ranting and give me facts. I don’t care if your feelings are hurt, I just want to know what your evidence is.
 

killster1

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It doesn’t have to be about politics, this applies to anything.

Prove us wrong, stop ranting and screaming and give us facts.
lulz screaming so silly. you already proved it for me, you said its proven .1% Why should i double prove it?
 

Pohemi

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who is the certain group you speak of? Do only a certain group of people refuse to get ID?
Are you claiming that nobody in America ever has difficulty obtaining an official state-issued ID card? Would you bet your life on it? HURRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRR :rolleyes:

Fucking idiot.
 
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killster1

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We already don’t allow it.

You’re saying we should undertake additional restrictions that will certainly prevent eligible voters from voting. Show me the facts as to why that’s a choice we should make and why it will make voting and elections better.

Again, it’s kind of amusing that your entire argument is based on your emotions and your feelings and you don’t seem to have noticed this, haha.

Again, stop with the emotional ranting and give me facts. I don’t care if your feelings are hurt, I just want to know what your evidence is.
this whole time im laughing and only called names when the ole, 'prove it or its false" bs keeps rolling.. you said its proven again and again .1% so boom i dont even care about any of this just wasting my time getting 50 bux a hour to laugh at you.
 

JEDIYoda

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this whole time im laughing and only called names when the ole, 'prove it or its false" bs keeps rolling.. you said its proven again and again .1% so boom i dont even care about any of this just wasting my time getting 50 bux a hour to laugh at you.
GOD I Love peope who are ignorant...
 

fskimospy

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this whole time im laughing and only called names when the ole, 'prove it or its false" bs keeps rolling.. you said its proven again and again .1% so boom i dont even care about any of this just wasting my time getting 50 bux a hour to laugh at you.
No, I didn’t. I have repeatedly asked you to provide your evidence but instead all you’ve done is tell us that your feelings say it’s true.

You can keep talking shit if you want. It doesn’t make me mad, if anything it’s funny that you think I would care. I am interested in what evidence you have other than that your Canadian girlfriend commits voter fraud all the time though. What is it?