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Pohemi

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if you cant say anything productive i guess you can resort to insults and attacks :)
Yeah, precisely. I followed your lead, clown. I asked for evidence of your false claims and you had nothing but insults. So now you're onto projection as well. Typical fucktard rightie.
 

killster1

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Yeah, precisely. I followed your lead, clown. I asked for evidence of your false claims and you had nothing but insults.
you can ask anything you want, but it doesnt make what you say true if i dont feel like proving something that is impossible to prove. how about we require ID and thumbprint scans so we can actually prove something.. OH WAIT WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT FEELINGS!
 
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MrSquished

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ALL Institutions? hahaha talk about dumb.. generalizing shit is the epitome of stupidity. I've never seen a hologram on a college ID, have you seen a passport or drivers license lately and can honestly say it compares to a college ID that hundreds of people at the campus have access to printing?


/edit.. im sure there are a few colleges with some damn good security on the ID, but does that mean you group them all together and say College ID is good to go? guess that doesnt work does it..
Colleges like clemson have been using holograms since 2015 or earlier and it's only getting more popular. College kids have been ordering fake ID from China with holograms and all for years now.

Get a clue.

And again, if you can't make a point that has proof, when proof becomes an inconvenience, to make policy change that affects millions, go away and reassess your own morals, values and standards.
 
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Colleges like clemson have been using holograms since 2015 or earlier and it's only getting more popular. College kids have been ordering fake ID from China with holograms and all due years now.

Get a clue.

And again, if you can't make a point that has proof, when proof becomes an inconvenience, to make policy change that affects millions, go away and reassess your own morals, values and standards.
2015 is 25 years ago>.. omg your math is atrocious. so because one college is good that makes the next good to go? there would have to be a approved list, how about you make a list of every college with a hologram id or i can say its not true! :)
 

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you can ask anything you want, but it doesnt make what you say true if i dont feel like proving something that is impossible to prove. how about we require ID and thumbprint scans so we can actually prove something.. OH WAIT WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT FEELINGS!
Again you don't want to provide proof to make a point. It's an unfair burden to evil people usually.

Typical Trump trash.
 

Pohemi

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you can ask anything you want, but it doesnt make what you say true if i dont feel like proving something that is impossible to prove. how about we require ID and thumbprint scans so we can actually prove something.. OH WAIT WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT FEELINGS!
We get it, you have nothing to back up your bullshit. Now will you just shut the fuck up?
 
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killster1

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We get it, you have nothing to back up your bullshit. Now will you just shut the fuck up?
how about you prove there has never been a case of fraud with voting? oh wait you cant so that means your filled to the brim with shit.. oooOoOooOOOO back to you! /pmsl
 

MrSquished

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2015 is 25 years ago>.. omg your math is atrocious. so because one college is good that makes the next good to go? there would have to be a approved list, how about you make a list of every college with a hologram id or i can say its not true! :)
How about you provide proof there is an issue you claim there is before I even make an effort. It won't matter what I post, your entire argument is based on fiction. Typical right wing fascist trash.
 

killster1

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How about you provide proof there is an issue you claim there is before I even make an effort. It won't matter what I post, your entire argument is based on fiction. Typical right wing fascist trash.
prove there is not a issue,, oh wait now i can call you names if you dont right? :)

id bet my life voting fraud exists and will always exist!! you are the most naïve person alive if you think otherwise :)
 

MrSquished

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prove there is not a issue,, oh wait now i can call you names if you dont right? :)

id bet my life voting fraud exists and will always exist!! you are the most naïve person alive if you think otherwise :)
What's your next trick? Prove the world is flat and we need to change all air travel because of it but offer no proof?

We await eagerly.
 

Pohemi

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prove there is not a issue,, oh wait now i can call you names if you dont right? :)

id bet my life voting fraud exists and will always exist!! you are the most naïve person alive if you think otherwise :)
You are a fucktard. It's well established that voting fraud is NOT a systemic or major issue. Can't accept that? Us linking the studies here isn't going to help. Fucking Google it, you goddamn idiot.
 

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What's your next trick? Prove the world is flat and we need to change all air travel because of it but offer no proof?

We await eagerly.
funny you mention something so far offtopic and silly, easy to prove. would you bet your life there is no such thing as voting fraud?
 

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You are a fucktard. It's well established that voting fraud is NOT a systemic or major issue. Can't accept that? Us linking the studies here isn't going to help. Fucking Google it, you goddamn idiot.
do you feel tough? i sure bet you wouldnt say anything to me on the streets, but online you sure sound so great "fucktard" hahah thanks for so much laughs, sorry i hurt your feelings, oh wait no im not sorry hahahahahha
so if everyone is not doing it and its not easily proved then we shouldnt worry about it until then right?
 
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Pohemi

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funny you mention something so far offtopic and silly, easy to prove. would you bet your life there is no such thing as voting fraud?
Your self-imagined "gotchya" moments are worthless. No such thing? Not beyond a very small %, no. Fuck off.
 
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fskimospy

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Classic moron reply, if i cant prove 1 million cases that means that it doesn't exist.. i love how people always make some big "PROVE IT OR ELSE YOUR ...." comments.
Right, if you want to take rights away from someone you have to give a good reason for it. That’s common sense.

i dont give a shit about anyone's feelings, but obviously you think peoples feelings are more important than the integrity of the system... right? If you don't have a ID what kind of citizen are you? sounds like a non productive one that doesn't pay taxes,
Your entire point is based on your feelings - you have no evidence, it’s just that you feel this is a problem and you want us to indulge your feelings. No thanks.

As far as if they pay taxes or not, we have an entire constitutional amendment about that.

Imagine how great the world would be if everyone shared responsibilities. Oh but that might hurt someone's feelings right. DOWN WITH AMERICA lets make a new nation called Freeica everything free for everyone, we can go back to dirt roads and everyone self policing. oh wait how would all your friends get welfare then? ugh
I’m not sure why you’re getting so irrationally angry about people simply asking you to provide evidence for why you should restrict the most basic right in a democracy.

We are dealing in facts and reality here, you’re letting your emotions and feelings get in the way of the evidence. If you can show us some evidence that the type of fraud voter ID would prevent is a serious issue then I would love to look at it. If you can’t, just admit you have no evidence and are basing your position on feelings.
 
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Pohemi

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nah @fskimospy he just wants to project and troll others :rolleyes:

He's on ignore now since all he's doing is shitting up the thread(s).
 

fskimospy

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do you feel tough? i sure bet you wouldnt say anything to me on the streets, but online you sure sound so great "fucktard" hahah thanks for so much laughs, sorry i hurt your feelings, oh wait no im not sorry hahahahahha
so if everyone is not doing it and its not easily proved then we shouldnt worry about it until then right?
It is easily proved - if people are commonly impersonating other voters at the polls then invariably someone will come in to vote and see someone has cast a vote under their name. Alternatively, people who have voted absentee will also show an in-person vote.

So basically just find us a whole bunch of double votes that aren’t otherwise explained and that’s evidence of voter impersonation. This is really not that complicated, so when can we expect your evidence?
 

killster1

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Right, if you want to take rights away from someone you have to give a good reason for it. That’s common sense.


Your entire point is based on your feelings - you have no evidence, it’s just that you feel this is a problem and you want us to indulge your feelings. No thanks.

As far as if they pay taxes or not, we have an entire constitutional amendment about that.


I’m not sure why you’re getting so irrationally angry about people simply asking you to provide evidence for why you should restrict the most basic right in a democracy.

We are dealing in facts and reality here, you’re letting your emotions and feelings get in the way of the evidence. If you can show us some evidence that the type of fraud voter ID would prevent is a serious issue then I would love to look at it. If you can’t, just admit you have no evidence and are basing your position on feelings.
thanks for the thought out reply, good points, my best point would be that its hard to prove fraud if there is little stopping it to begin with!
 
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fskimospy

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thanks for the thought out reply, good points, my best point would be that its hard to prove fraud if there is little stopping it to begin with!
It’s really not, see my other post. If it’s happening with any regularity it can be easily proven.
 

killster1

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It is easily proved - if people are commonly impersonating other voters at the polls then invariably someone will come in to vote and see someone has cast a vote under their name. Alternatively, people who have voted absentee will also show an in-person vote.

So basically just find us a whole bunch of double votes that aren’t otherwise explained and that’s evidence of voter impersonation. This is really not that complicated, so when can we expect your evidence?
I know first hand people who have committed fraud voting! will i throw them under the bus? nah.. but its not that complicated to vote for someone that you know is not going to vote to begin with. LIke me! ive never voted once hahahahahha
 
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