Why Google and Android is going the way of the Dinosaur

[BoberFett]

You don't think the market for smartphones has already become commoditized? Are you insinuating that Android hasn't caught up to apple yet and they are not perfect competitors?

Your post isn't even worth writing up a response.

You're simply not smart enough to write a response, boy. Hell, you don't even know what the word commoditized means if you think smartphones already are. Come back when the adults are done talking.

 

[Zen0]

lol dude you never stop

I guess that`s why we`ve never heard of something called jailbreaking because it`s so perfect.

That's why 99% of people don't Jailbreak.

 

[zerocool84]

Consider that my iPad has Inkling textbooks, both as references and class books - in full glorious chapters and content.

Zinio lets me subscribe to Magazines for next to nothing in full glory.

Netflix can stream for 10 hours seamlessly and integrates perfectly.

iBooks, Kindle, Nook apps etc cover literally every book you can desire to purchase.

GarageBand lets me take with me a Grand Piano and numerous other instruments for on the go accompaniment

Office is a snap, with the plethora of document editors that integrate with DropBox etc

Flipboard/Feedly etc puts relevant in the ease of use

Atomic gives you full website surfing, adblocking, tabbing, awesomeness while Skyfire gives you Flash - even when most of use end using ClicktoFlash and other extensions to DISABLE FLash on our Laptops to save battery life.

Need I mention the hundreds of other dedicated and generic uses for the iPad (sharing, social networking, work, media output, streaming, skyping/facetiming, even drawing and painting etc etc etc etc etc)? No, it would take too long, and Android users will run out of Notification LEDs to put to as their ultimate productivity advantage.

It's not just the iPad's smoothness, incredible screen, battery life, built in 3G and GPS capabilities... it's what they facilitate, which is productivity. Much like a computer or operating system is useless without the applications it can run and the calculations it can do.

And the only thing non-Apple tablets don't have is GarageBand and Netflix. Netflix is the only killer app that`s missing.

 

[zerocool84]

That's why 99% of people don't Jailbreak.

And 99% of people don't root, what's your point?

 

[Zen0]

And 99% of people don't root, what's your point?

My point was fairly obvious... iDevice > Google

 

[Zen0]

And the only thing non-Apple tablets don't have is GarageBand and Netflix. Netflix is the only killer app that`s missing.

No Textbooks, No Netflix, No Magazines, No Office integration, No Garage band, far less featured browsers...

You got nothing, nada

 

[zerocool84]

My point was fairly obvious... iDevice > Google

My mistake, that`s too good of an argument.

 

[zerocool84]

No Textbooks, No Netflix, No Magazines, No Office integration, No Garage band, far less featured browsers...

You got nothing, nada

You need to do some homework before you say stuff buddy.

 

[Zen0]

You need to do some homework before you say stuff buddy.

What homework?

Everything I mentioned I use and are exclusively for iDevices. Hell, Inkling, the only relevant Textbook replacement, is made ONLY for the iPads.

I'd like to hear about an Android app that can edit .doc, .xls, .pdf etc ... much less integrate into DropBox for true Cloud editing.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

What Android severely lacks is a tightly integrated experience. It's also incredibly unstable, I can't tell if this is a result of poorly coded apps or inherent OS issues. Also, the GUI can be herky/jerky at times.

I'm using it because quite frankly there were no other options. That's why Android is as big as it is, there literally were no other options until very recently when Verizon picked up the iPhone4.

I predict that in the end Microsoft will get their act together and put together a product that can compete toe-to-toe with Apple. They have the resources and know how to do so better than any other company in the world.

 

[BenSkywalker]

I'd like to hear about an Android app that can edit .doc, .xls, .pdf etc

QuickOffice? It's been out for years, I had it on an Android 1.5 device. You may be amazed by the fact that an Apple device can do anything productive at all, but it is rather the norm outside of that little world.

Zinio lets me subscribe to Magazines for next to nothing in full glory.

Most of the print magazines I subscribe to give me an Android version for free. No pirating involved, included.

Everything I mentioned I use and are exclusively for iDevices.

Like Kindle and Nook? It's rather comical you mention the Nook app since the Nook runs on Android, and then there is the Kindle being made by the company running the second largest Android market.

What Android severely lacks is a tightly integrated experience. It's also incredibly unstable

Unstable? Have you ever even seen an Android device? I would question if you had ever heard of it, but you did manage to spell it properly.

 

[MagickMan]

Unstable? Have you ever even seen an Android device? I would question if you had ever heard of it, but you did manage to spell it properly.

I like Android, and 3.0 is really pretty. But, yeah, compared to iOS, HC is quite unstable. Sorry.

 

[Dulanic]

No worries, the comments just make me grin

people will say, damn signs were all there back in 2011, and remember that AT thread we all thought was foolish?

Anyone get this feeling this is like John and his "we're not heading into a recession" thread a few years ago?

Just ignore what he says, there is no other side to this debate for him. It's just Apple > God > All Other no matter what. Oh and the reason? Because Apple costs more than the others. Cost means everything after all.... not just that someone overpaid for something.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Wow, what a trainwreck.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Consider that my iPad has Inkling textbooks, both as references and class books - in full glorious chapters and content.

Zinio lets me subscribe to Magazines for next to nothing in full glory.

Netflix can stream for 10 hours seamlessly and integrates perfectly.

iBooks, Kindle, Nook apps etc cover literally every book you can desire to purchase.

GarageBand lets me take with me a Grand Piano and numerous other instruments for on the go accompaniment

Office is a snap, with the plethora of document editors that integrate with DropBox etc

Flipboard/Feedly etc puts relevant in the ease of use

Atomic gives you full website surfing, adblocking, tabbing, awesomeness while Skyfire gives you Flash - even when most of use end using ClicktoFlash and other extensions to DISABLE FLash on our Laptops to save battery life.

Need I mention the hundreds of other dedicated and generic uses for the iPad (sharing, social networking, work, media output, streaming, skyping/facetiming, even drawing and painting etc etc etc etc etc)? No, it would take too long, and Android users will run out of Notification LEDs to put to as their ultimate productivity advantage.

It's not just the iPad's smoothness, incredible screen, battery life, built in 3G and GPS capabilities... it's what they facilitate, which is productivity. Much like a computer or operating system is useless without the applications it can run and the calculations it can do.

i came.

 

[bonkers325]

Consider that my iPad has Inkling textbooks, both as references and class books - in full glorious chapters and content.

Hardbound books are the only way to go. You can write on them, mark them up, tab them, and buy/sell them used. can't do that on an ebook.

Zinio lets me subscribe to Magazines for next to nothing in full glory.

most magazine subscriptions allow you full, glorious, unfettered access. because you PAID already.

Netflix can stream for 10 hours seamlessly and integrates perfectly.

I concede this point. I returned my android tablet because it doesn't stream netflix.

iBooks, Kindle, Nook apps etc cover literally every book you can desire to purchase.

Android has the kindle app, and open source e-readers that will let you read anything

GarageBand lets me take with me a Grand Piano and numerous other instruments for on the go accompaniment

GarageBand is great. It's an awesome program and I hope it sees more widespread use and generates more interest in the arts. However, there can be no substitute for an actual grand piano

Office is a snap, with the plethora of document editors that integrate with DropBox etc

DropBox is a multi-platform application. Every mobile platform has an office-esque app capable of opening standard documents.

Flipboard/Feedly etc puts relevant in the ease of use

There are tons of RSS readers you can use, pick your flavor. Although Flipboard puts it in magazine format, which no other RSS reader does.
Feedly is available for Android.

Atomic gives you full website surfing, adblocking, tabbing, awesomeness while Skyfire gives you Flash - even when most of use end using ClicktoFlash and other extensions to DISABLE FLash on our Laptops to save battery life.

Every modern mobile browser will do all that, and give you the option to enable/disable what you please. If you want to save battery life, just disable flash. If you want flash, then enable it. No comparisons on flash can be made between mobile iOS and other mobile platforms, simply because iOS doesn't have native flash support.

Need I mention the hundreds of other dedicated and generic uses for the iPad (sharing, social networking, work, media output, streaming, skyping/facetiming, even drawing and painting etc etc etc etc etc)? No, it would take too long, and Android users will run out of Notification LEDs to put to as their ultimate productivity advantage.

Generic uses are generic. Any smartphone or tablet today can do the "dedicated and generic" things you mention. Because they're generic.

It's not just the iPad's smoothness, incredible screen, battery life, built in 3G and GPS capabilities... it's what they facilitate, which is productivity. Much like a computer or operating system is useless without the applications it can run and the calculations it can do.

iOS is smooth, no doubt. The IPS screen is to die for. The battery life is exemplary and sets the bar for other tablets. GPS is standard. 3G is available as an option.
Productivity stems from the efficient display of information and effective input methods for the user. A 10" screen (where half of it is covered by a virtual keyboard) is hardly effective for any type of meaningful work that I can imagine. If you are going to tout productivity on an iPad, you're going to sound like a fool. Get a laptop or go home and sit at your desktop.

 

[Zen0]

QuickOffice? It's been out for years, I had it on an Android 1.5 device. You may be amazed by the fact that an Apple device can do anything productive at all, but it is rather the norm outside of that little world.



Most of the print magazines I subscribe to give me an Android version for free. No pirating involved, included.



Like Kindle and Nook? It's rather comical you mention the Nook app since the Nook runs on Android, and then there is the Kindle being made by the company running the second largest Android market.



Unstable? Have you ever even seen an Android device? I would question if you had ever heard of it, but you did manage to spell it properly.

Oh yay you finally have an office app! Try typing on that on-screen keyboard for more than 2 seconds and not have the urge to commit sepuku.

You subscribe to magazines... individually? Yikes, having an app for each one must be a pain the rear.

Obviously Kindle and Nook are available on their own devices and in generic... I thought obvious did not need to pointed out.

 

[A5]

Oh yay you finally have an office app! Try typing on that on-screen keyboard for more than 2 seconds and not have the urge to commit sepuku.

You subscribe to magazines... individually? Yikes, having an app for each one must be a pain the rear.

Obviously Kindle and Nook are available on their own devices and in generic... I thought obvious did not need to pointed out.

Anyone seriously editing documents on a phone or tablet already hates themselves. There aren't any acceptable touchscreen keyboards for serious writing, including Apple's.

 

[Zen0]

Hardbound books are the only way to go. You can write on them, mark them up, tab them, and buy/sell them used. can't do that on an ebook.

You can do that on an Inkling book too. You can also have the same Inkling book shared across two iPads. And you'll have your book everywhere you go for reference. You might actually learn something instead of dreading your textbooks!

most magazine subscriptions allow you full, glorious, unfettered access. because you PAID already.

LOL... um ...

http://idioplatform.com/2009/05/top-magazine-iphone-apps/

These are not magazines in full glorious unfettered access, they're mobile versions of full glorious magazines.

Ever tried reading the reviews for Magazine apps? Ads, content, price, stability etc..

Every modern mobile browser will do all that, and give you the option to enable/disable what you please. If you want to save battery life, just disable flash. If you want flash, then enable it. No comparisons on flash can be made between mobile iOS and other mobile platforms, simply because iOS doesn't have native flash support.

Which browsers?

Generic uses are generic. Any smartphone or tablet today can do the "dedicated and generic" things you mention. Because they're generic.


iOS is smooth, no doubt. The IPS screen is to die for. The battery life is exemplary and sets the bar for other tablets. GPS is standard. 3G is available as an option.
Productivity stems from the efficient display of information and effective input methods for the user. A 10" screen (where half of it is covered by a virtual keyboard) is hardly effective for any type of meaningful work that I can imagine. If you are going to tout productivity on an iPad, you're going to sound like a fool. Get a laptop or go home and sit at your desktop.

LOL, being productive is about typing?

Typing onscreen on an iPad is about 100x faster than an Android device.



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[Zen0]

Anyone seriously editing documents on a phone or tablet already hates themselves. There aren't any acceptable touchscreen keyboards for serious writing, including Apple's.

Except for the feedback, typing on the iPad can be just as fast (I don't type as fast as this but I'm not that far) because of the intelligent corrective predictions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbnvRqjVLDM

 

[Dulanic]

Typing onscreen on an iPad is about 100x faster than an Android device.

Mods seriously.... this post isn't a troll post yet? Statements like that just prove it.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

I would whoreheartedly recommend anybody I know to use a Windows Phone 7 over an Android phone.

Methinks this thread is over.
I didn't edit the original post at all, except for bolding the most interesting part. Just goes to show what are the OP's real feelings.

 

[pm]

I agree. I'll lock. Probably should have earlier but locking is a big hammer and I try not to use it very often.


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