Why Google and Android is going the way of the Dinosaur

[cheezy321]

Yes, Cloud Storage is so horrible. Who the hell would even care about that. Being able to access your music anywhere sucks.

Amazon already has done this. This isn't anything new or groundbreaking. Thus the Yawn. Just like the video rental service.

The USB host thing is AWESOME tho. I gotta say I am impressed by that, some cool things will come from that.

 

[zerocool84]

It caches the songs you've recently played on your phone so you don't need a net connection for those.

 

[randay]

Second, people should begin to examine what Google actually brings to the table:

1) Superior search engine
2) ???

the way i see it, google made android for shits and giggles. they have their hands in so many markets. apple only has iphones and ipads and ios. theres no way google will ever go out of business if android somehow fails. the success or failure of android has little bearing on the future of google. the day apple comes out with a search engine is the day your musings could even be considered as fallacy. for now, its just nonsense.

 

[cheezy321]

the way i see it, google made android for shits and giggles. they have their hands in so many markets. apple only has iphones and ipads and ios. theres no way google will ever go out of business if android somehow fails. the success or failure of android has little bearing on the future of google. the day apple comes out with a search engine is the day your musings could even be considered as fallacy. for now, its just nonsense.

Give me a freaking break.

Google is a one trick pony. Almost ALL of their profits come from search advertising. Look at their financials. They are *NOT* making money in 'so many markets'. They are making veritable shitloads of money in this one single category. Android is an attempt for them to protect their cash cow, which is search advertising.

 

[BoberFett]

Give me a freaking break.

Google is a one trick pony. Almost ALL of their profits come from search advertising. Look at their financials. They are *NOT* making money in 'so many markets'. They are making veritable shitloads of money in this one single category. Android is an attempt for them to protect their cash cow, which is search advertising.

Google is a one trick pony? What does Apple have? The iPhone and the 10" iPhone. Sorry, iPad. I get confused.

Once smartphones and tablets become commoditized, and they will, what exactly is Apple going to do? Talk about a one trick pony...

 

[randay]

Give me a freaking break.

Google is a one trick pony. Almost ALL of their profits come from search advertising. Look at their financials. They are *NOT* making money in 'so many markets'. They are making veritable shitloads of money in this one single category. Android is an attempt for them to protect their cash cow, which is search advertising.

i said nothing about them making money in so many markets. but thanks for reiterating my point. android means jack shit to google in the end. either you need to read slower or you need to take off the goggles.

 

[Oyeve]

the way i see it, google made android for shits and giggles. they have their hands in so many markets. apple only has iphones and ipads and ios. theres no way google will ever go out of business if android somehow fails. the success or failure of android has little bearing on the future of google. the day apple comes out with a search engine is the day your musings could even be considered as fallacy. for now, its just nonsense.

The same was said about Netscape and yahoo and ASK and many others that are obscure now.

 

[cheezy321]

i said nothing about them making money in so many markets. but thanks for reiterating my point. android means jack shit to google in the end. either you need to read slower or you need to take off the goggles.

LOL wut? So the point you are trying to make is that android doesnt matter? Seriously? It matters a ton to them. A ton of searches are being done over cell phones now. They want to protect their cash cow, so they made android. Google is building a moat for its search property- http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/25/search-googles-castle-moat/

Android means a whole hell of a lot to google in the end. Its a way to protect their core business. They want to make sure that when people are searching on a cell phone they see googles ads. Its very important to them and their future revenue.

Please tell me the 'many markets' that google is dominating in. And please show me how much money they are making. They have created a lot of failed products in a lot of other markets, that is a fact. Remember google buzz?

Please explain further how android means 'jack shit' to google. I am genuinely interested in what you have to say.

 

[cheezy321]

Google is a one trick pony? What does Apple have? The iPhone and the 10" iPhone. Sorry, iPad. I get confused.

Once smartphones and tablets become commoditized, and they will, what exactly is Apple going to do? Talk about a one trick pony...

You don't think the market for smartphones has already become commoditized? Are you insinuating that Android hasn't caught up to apple yet and they are not perfect competitors?

Your post isn't even worth writing up a response.

 

[randay]

LOL wut? So the point you are trying to make is that android doesnt matter? Seriously? It matters a ton to them. A ton of searches are being done over cell phones now. They want to protect their cash cow, so they made android. Google is building a moat for its search property- http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/25/search-googles-castle-moat/

Android means a whole hell of a lot to google in the end. Its a way to protect their core business. They want to make sure that when people are searching on a cell phone they see googles ads. Its very important to them and their future revenue.

Please tell me the 'many markets' that google is dominating in. And please show me how much money they are making. They have created a lot of failed products in a lot of other markets, that is a fact. Remember google buzz?

Please explain further how android means 'jack shit' to google. I am genuinely interested in what you have to say.

if youre genuinely interested you need to go back and understand my first post. i have nothing more to say to you.

 

[cheezy321]

if youre genuinely interested you need to go back and understand my first post. i have nothing more to say to you.

I read your post. I understand what you mean. Please refute my statement that Google makes the majority of its money from search and that android is a moat to protect its cash cow. Please tell me how you think that doesn't matter for their future profits, especially when more and more searches are being done on cell phones? How can you say that android is not a huge part of their strategy moving forward?

Again, what markets is google involved in? You act like they are General Electric. Their profits are not distributed through various means. The majority of their profits are coming from one mean, which is search advertising. Android is very important to the future of their seach advertising.

 

[gsaldivar]

Apple and Google aren't "perfect competitors".

They compete in some of the same markets, and not at all in others. Google's main business is advertising, that's true enough. Android is a significant extension of their existing efforts in that market.

Google's goal is to maximize revenue from the overall market. Google is advertising-centric, because a pervasive presence is required for success with that strategy. Google is quite happy with the millions of micro-profits coming in from the total amount of people using their varied and pervasive marketing channels (Search, Maps, Gmail, Voice, Android, etc.) As far as branding is concerned, Google isn't terribly worried about how people regard their brand, their products or the overall experience. This is reflected in the spartan, almost "generic" appearance of many of their products. Google's products are designed to efficiently deliver data to the most number of consumers.

Apple's goal is to maximize revenue from the premium market. Apple is brand-centric, because a premium identity is required for success with this strategy. Apple is quite happy with a smaller overall number of more profitable transactions coming in from its hardware and software channels. Branding is key to Apple's strategy, as consumers must always regard Apple's products as superior to all others. This is reflected in the polished, seamless integration of Apple's products. Apple products are designed to deliver the best user experience to the select number of consumers that are willing to pay Apple's premium price.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I have no doubt that Google is leveraging it's position in the market to destroy competitors. Google is so big, it doesn't even need to do or say much to crush them.

What I love is blind fans that can't imagine a world where Google is capable of shit like this.

How about a $500 million dollar fine they buried in their quarterly report this year?

That's a half BILLION dollar fine Google paid the DOJ this year.

http://www.geekwire.com/2011/google-takes-surprise-500m-charge-doj-ad-investigation

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Yea, and it was developed by Skyhook.

damn, skyhook sounds like skynet.

as for as the rest of the OPs argument about lag fest. Hahahaha. Go try out a incredible and tell me its laggy. That last years tech. Android is far from laggy.

also, what happened to all the ip3g phones on the iOS 4 update.

 

[theeedude]

Google is not going anywhere, sorry to burst your bubble, OP.
Google is a for-profit company that expects something in return for the money it spends developing Android. It has to pay all those programmers, so you shouldn't even expect no strings attached open source. Google is nice enough to provide it for most versions of Android, and if you are a manufacturer, you could branch it completely, replace Google's services with other services like Skyhook or Bing or Amazon Appstore and tell Google to FOAD, but then don't expect Google to support you going forward. You just took something valuable of theirs for free, and cut them off from making money off of it. Why should they waste their time and resources supporting your devices? The manufacturers understand this and choose to play by Google's rules. They don't have to, but then Google doesn't have to support them either, so it's to their benefit. If Skyhook is an odd man out, well, tough cookies. Skyhook can develop it's own OS and give it away with their service like Google, instead of mooching off Google's Android efforts.

 

[gsaldivar]

How about a $500 million dollar fine they buried in their quarterly report this year? That's a half BILLION dollar fine Google paid the DOJ this year.

It sounds like they are taking an early charge against an anticipated penalty. In other words, setting aside money but nothing has actually been paid out yet. Regardless, I'm sure they won't be hurting for cash as a result...

 

[zerocool84]

also, what happened to all the ip3g phones on the iOS 4 update.

iPhone 3G with iOs 4 update didn't even work. Made the phones literally unusable.

 

[Bateluer]

Google is a one trick pony? What does Apple have? The iPhone and the 10" iPod Touch. Sorry, iPad. I get confused.

Once smartphones and tablets become commoditized, and they will, what exactly is Apple going to do? Talk about a one trick pony...

Fixed it for you.

 

[Bateluer]

also, what happened to all the ip3g phones on the iOS 4 update.

Those people went out and bought the iPhone 4. Its magical.

 

[foghorn67]

Those people went out and bought the iPhone 4. Its magical.

Brilliant strategy. Really. No joke.

 

[Pliablemoose]

iPhone 3G with iOs 4 update didn't even work. Made the phones literally unusable.

I have a 3G iPhone it wasn't that bad on 4.0, acted like a laggy Android phone... still useable, but slow and laggy, they fixed it too. That's more than Google is willing to commit to.

I'm not saying google sucks major salty balls, or that Apple powns, but that these are corporations, and we're foolish to lock our feelings into corporations that quite literally sell data about us to make money.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

I have a 3G iPhone it wasn't that bad on 4.0, acted like a laggy Android phone... still useable, but slow and laggy, they fixed it too. That's more than Google is willing to commit to.

I'm not saying google sucks major salty balls, or that Apple powns, but that these are corporations, and we're foolish to lock our feelings into corporations that quite literally sell data about us to make money.

We're not. Atleast most of us are not. Its still usefull to know which one is
1. going to around later
2. Have the best 3rd support
3. Provide better services.

For example, i'd love to switch to WebOS. Imo thats truly the only smartphone OS worthy of the title. But i don't because palm kinda failed and i'm still waiting to see what HP can do.

 

[Zen0]

I have a 3G iPhone it wasn't that bad on 4.0, acted like a laggy Android phone... still useable, but slow and laggy, they fixed it too. That's more than Google is willing to commit to.

I'm not saying google sucks major salty balls, or that Apple powns, but that these are corporations, and we're foolish to lock our feelings into corporations that quite literally sell data about us to make money.

The hilarious part is when Apple users are using their devices to be productive, while the Android ones are nerd-raging in their basements and modifying the OS code without realizing Google is just laughing right at them.

 

[zerocool84]

The hilarious part is when Apple users are using their devices to be productive, while the Android ones are nerd-raging in their basements and modifying the OS code without realizing Google is just laughing right at them.

lol dude you never stop

I guess that`s why we`ve never heard of something called jailbreaking because it`s so perfect.

 

[Zen0]

lol dude you never stop

Consider that my iPad has Inkling textbooks, both as references and class books - in full glorious chapters and content.

Zinio lets me subscribe to Magazines for next to nothing in full glory.

Netflix can stream for 10 hours seamlessly and integrates perfectly.

iBooks, Kindle, Nook apps etc cover literally every book you can desire to purchase.

GarageBand lets me take with me a Grand Piano and numerous other instruments for on the go accompaniment

Office is a snap, with the plethora of document editors that integrate with DropBox etc

Flipboard/Feedly etc puts relevant in the ease of use

Atomic gives you full website surfing, adblocking, tabbing, awesomeness while Skyfire gives you Flash - even when most of use end using ClicktoFlash and other extensions to DISABLE FLash on our Laptops to save battery life.

Need I mention the hundreds of other dedicated and generic uses for the iPad (sharing, social networking, work, media output, streaming, skyping/facetiming, even drawing and painting etc etc etc etc etc)? No, it would take too long, and Android users will run out of Notification LEDs to put to as their ultimate productivity advantage.

It's not just the iPad's smoothness, incredible screen, battery life, built in 3G and GPS capabilities... it's what they facilitate, which is productivity. Much like a computer or operating system is useless without the applications it can run and the calculations it can do.