Why don't you carry a gun?

[Gunslinger08]

Jesus....where the F do some of you live that you feel your life is in peril every time you step out your door?

I've managed to survive over 60 years on this old earth and not once have I ever been robbed, mugged, whatever. And this included hanging out on The Block in Baltimore, the South End in Boston, some seedy appearing areas in Atlanta, sketchy places in Germany, Italy, and France when I was over in Europe. Where do y'all go.....looking for drugs? Hanging out in high crime areas on purpose looking for altercations? Get drunk and belligerent?

And about home invasions.....try my house. You'd best have guns drawn and blazing because 3 of my dogs will put you on your ass in a moment, esp. if the wife's at home. I wouldn't try it and I live in the house.

Some of y'all sound like you live in the Wild West where everyone has a gun and is looking for a reason to use it.....must be a hard existence.

My house has never burnt down, but I have insurance, smoke detectors, and a fire extinguisher. I haven't been in a wreck that would have resulted in injury without a seatbelt, but I still wear it. I haven't been broken into, but I still lock the doors on my car and home.

It is all about weighing the risk vs. the effort it takes to mitigate the risk. Some people will not see value in carrying. Some will think that the burden is too high for the perceived risk. Some will not agree with you. Those of us who carry generally aren't seeing danger around every corner. They just want to be prepared if there is a danger to their life at some point and the burden of carrying weighs less heavily on us than others believe it would weigh on them. This is no different from any other safety precaution you take in any other aspect of your life.

 

[rudeguy]

Jesus....where the F do some of you live that you feel your life is in peril every time you step out your door?

I've managed to survive over 60 years on this old earth and not once have I ever been robbed, mugged, whatever. And this included hanging out on The Block in Baltimore, the South End in Boston, some seedy appearing areas in Atlanta, sketchy places in Germany, Italy, and France when I was over in Europe. Where do y'all go.....looking for drugs? Hanging out in high crime areas on purpose looking for altercations? Get drunk and belligerent?

And about home invasions.....try my house. You'd best have guns drawn and blazing because 3 of my dogs will put you on your ass in a moment, esp. if the wife's at home. I wouldn't try it and I live in the house.

Some of y'all sound like you live in the Wild West where everyone has a gun and is looking for a reason to use it.....must be a hard existence.

well...not everyone can live in the middle of nowhere

 

[z1ggy]

I carry on me every where except to and from work, and when I enter a state that doesn't allow me to.

I would only use it in the situation that I was being personally robbed/attacked. If I was in a mass shooting situation, the first thing I am doing is getting the F outta there. I wouldn't try to be a hero. In the confusing situation, I'd probably be labeled as a bad guy, and worst case I would end up harming innocent people.

 

[onza]

Work has a sign that says no guns allowed, but if i was literate I could definitely carry one in because they don't have a picture as well.

 

[onza]

crazy, where bouts in st paul? There are some bad areas ... but I can't imagine that is common.

Probably by Augsburg where the Somali population is high..

 

[JulesMaximus]

You either suffer from a lack of real world experience or a lack of oxygen. Possibly both.

Have you ever needed the police? Like NEEDED them? Not your car got broken into or something where time isn't of the essence? They don't show up as soon as you dial 911. Matter of fact, the first thing you need to do is argue with the 911 operator who is going to make the call as difficult as possible. Then if you do finally convince them to send a cop, the cop is going to take at least a few minutes to show up. So you are basically looking at minimum 5 minutes before a cop will be there to "help". So all you need to do is ask the criminal to please hold when he is trying to rob/rape/kill you. He should oblige.

Then there is me. It takes me less than a second to get the help I need. If I have a couple free seconds, I'll call 911 to let them record what goes on.

What 'real world experience' are you talking about exactly? I lived in Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots. I worked in the Wilshire district, Hollywood, LAX and Pasadena for years. I've picked up rental cars in South Central LA, Compton, north Long Beach, some real shitty areas and never got mugged/robbed/etc. Never once needed a gun.

Never once called 911 either. I own guns but have never used one, in 46 years on this planet, to prevent or stop a crime.

Oh wait, my wife's car got broken into twice while parked on the street overnight when we lived in Torrance, CA. They busted up her dash and stole her stereo both times. We might have called the cops for that and I called the cops on a road rager once... it didn't do any good either time.

 

[rudeguy]

What 'real world experience' are you talking about exactly? I lived in Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots. I worked in the Wilshire district, Hollywood, LAX and Pasadena for years. I've picked up rental cars in South Central LA, Compton, north Long Beach, some real shitty areas and never got mugged/robbed/etc. Never once needed a gun.

Never once called 911 either. I own guns but have never used one, in 46 years on this planet, to prevent or stop a crime.

Oh wait, my wife's car got broken into twice while parked on the street overnight when we lived in Torrance, CA. They busted up her dash and stole her stereo both times. We might have called the cops for that and I called the cops on a road rager once... it didn't do any good either time.

I am very happy to hear that you have never needed to call the cops in an emergency. Really I am. I am also very happy to hear that you are prepared in case you do have an emergency.

You're a good man.

 

[exdeath]

Jesus....where the F do some of you live that you feel your life is in peril every time you step out your door?

I've managed to survive over 60 years on this old earth and not once have I ever been robbed, mugged, whatever. And this included hanging out on The Block in Baltimore, the South End in Boston, some seedy appearing areas in Atlanta, sketchy places in Germany, Italy, and France when I was over in Europe. Where do y'all go.....looking for drugs? Hanging out in high crime areas on purpose looking for altercations? Get drunk and belligerent?

And about home invasions.....try my house. You'd best have guns drawn and blazing because 3 of my dogs will put you on your ass in a moment, esp. if the wife's at home. I wouldn't try it and I live in the house.

Some of y'all sound like you live in the Wild West where everyone has a gun and is looking for a reason to use it.....must be a hard existence.

Easy to say when you or your wife are two of the lucky ones not at that Aurora theater or numerous other safe places where people were just minding their own business.

 

[IronWing]

What I've learned here is that if I carry a gun I have a small penis. If I don't carry a gun I lose my man card. Either way, I'm a gelding. Maybe I should carry a mace. No one messes with a guy carrying a mace and they don't question his manhood either.






Edit: Okay, people might think he's a renaissance fair fairy, but definetely a manly renaissance fair fairy.

 

[rudeguy]

What I've learned here is that if I carry a gun I have a small penis. If I don't carry a gun I lose my man card. Either way, I'm a gelding. Maybe I should carry a mace. No one messes with a guy carrying a mace and they don't question his manhood either.






Edit: Okay, people might think he's a renaissance fair fairy, but definetely a manly renaissance fair fairy.

We just need to get you the proper equipment.

One of these:

and this:

 

[waggy]

well...not everyone can live in the middle of nowhere

actually living in the middle of nowhere you SHOULD have a gun. Less cops and bigger area for them to cover means it takes longer to get to your house.

 

[waggy]

I hope most know most cops aren't charging into a home if they think there is a hostage or potential domestic violence issue with a gun involved.

They wait things out a bit. Same thing with burglaries. Cops add in extra time as it's better the perps are not in the home when they are there.

It sucks. They respond much differently to businesses.

yeah? tell it to this family because that is exactly what the cop did. He also shot the hostage.

 

[olds]

yeah? tell it to this family because that is exactly what the cop did. He also shot the hostage.

But that's the way it's done. You shoot the hostage so that they fall out of the hostage takers arms. The hostage takers is so surprised that you can just go up to them and cuff them. Be sure to read them their rights too.

 

[MtnMan]

You talk like cops are never on scene when a crime is in progress. That's silly. The more accurate analogy, if you must have one, is that cops are to crime as doctors are to sickness and injury: they can't always prevent it, when it starts they can't always stop it, but they always do their best to fix whatever bad thing is happening.

Call for a cop, call for a pizza.

Offer the cop some pizza when they get there.

 

[shortylickens]

 

[rudeguy]

Call for a cop, call for a pizza.

Offer the cop some pizza when they get there.

I've been doing it wrong.

In my CPL (CCW) class we were taught to put a pot of coffee on (its going to take them a bit to show up). When the cops get there you only need to say two sentences:

"I fully intend to cooperate with your investigation, however I wish to remain silent until my attorney is present. Would you like some coffee?"

 

[exdeath]

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1471585

Nope nothing bad ever happens.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I've been doing it wrong.

In my CPL (CCW) class we were taught to put a pot of coffee on (its going to take them a bit to show up). When the cops get there you only need to say two sentences:

"I fully intend to cooperate with your investigation, however I wish to remain silent until my attorney is present. Would you like some coffee?"

To add to that we were told it is not a bad idea to make the initial call to 911 yourself. That way you don't get grandma across the street screaming "man with a gun". Also it puts your name on record as the one who wishes to file a report.

 

[cmdrdredd]

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1471585

Nope nothing bad ever happens.

This is why I hate people who ride rice burners. Never met one who wasn't a total dick to people on the road.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I don't carry a gun with me for the same reason I don't take a helicopter to work.

 

[rudeguy]

I don't carry a gun with me for the same reason I don't take a helicopter to work.

because you can't?

I would so fly a helicopter to work if I could.

 

[MtnMan]

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1471585

Nope nothing bad ever happens.

New Yark, where no one needs more than 7 rounds in their gun to defend themselves.

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

http://m.nydailynews.com/1.1471585

Nope nothing bad ever happens.

I'm surprised this doesn't have its own thread yet. Crazy stuff. That and a whole bunch of other things I'm seeing lately are making me consider becoming a gun owner. People are just becoming worse and worse...at least as far as I can tell.

 

[waggy]

because you can't?

I would so fly a helicopter to work if I could.

no shit. i would consider going back to work if i could fly a helicopter to work :hmm:

This is why I hate people who ride rice burners. Never met one who wasn't a total dick to people on the road.

I rode motorcycles for years. yeah i had everything from crotch rockets to street bikes.

I HATE when riders are dicks and dangerous. it makes those of us that ride safely and courteous look bad. I look for other traffic and try to act as if i'm in my car (but drive very defensively.)

only bad thing i would do is if you had a open stretch of road and 100% sure no other traffic i would open it up hehe


edit: also as a rider i wan't to say that guy should have floored it and fuck any idiot in his way. i wouldn't have stopped. fuck them

 

[Scotteq]

I've been doing it wrong.

In my CPL (CCW) class we were taught to put a pot of coffee on (its going to take them a bit to show up). When the cops get there you only need to say two sentences:

"I fully intend to cooperate with your investigation, however I wish to remain silent until my attorney is present. Would you like some coffee?"

To add to that we were told it is not a bad idea to make the initial call to 911 yourself. That way you don't get grandma across the street screaming "man with a gun". Also it puts your name on record as the one who wishes to file a report.

QFT - 'The Person Who Calls' is the Complainant. The other is the Suspect... Beg pardon - "Person of Interest" is the correct phrase now.