Why doesn't America hold the ghetto community to task?

[lotus503]

I would give up my right to unreasonable search and seizure if everyone in America could speak, read and write at a 12th grade level.

I wouldn't, I would cut defense in half and use the funds for K-12 education.

 

[davmat787]

The canadians don't have it and they seem to get along just fine.

True, but sheep usually do what they are told is best for them anyway.

 

[Nebor]

I wouldn't, I would cut defense in half and use the funds for K-12 education.

Cut defense in half?! Those non-english speakers in the Middle East aren't going to blow themselves up. Oh wait... they are.

 

[SheHateMe]

You don't have to give up anything, you can learn English for free in the US.

 

[glenn1]

Why doesn't America hold the ghetto community to task?

Why should we? They helpfully have consolidated in the cities where the rest of us can safely ignore them. Civilization starts in the first ring suburbs in America.

 

[Doppel]

Why should we? They helpfully have consolidated in the cities where the rest of us can safely ignore them. Civilization starts in the first ring suburbs in America.

This is what I was getting at in my post. I have some ideas, but I don't pay a ton of attention. I mainly stay well enough away from the ghetto, where the rates of murder, robbery, generally having a shitty life, are many magnitudes worse than in the suburbs where the only gun shot I ever expect to hear is during hunting season. The last time there was a robbery in my neighbor was never.

 

[nextJin]

I have zero white neighbors, and I feel perfectly safe running at night or hell even leaving my car unlocked sometimes (too lazy to go down stairs to check). I actually felt more safe in the streets of Baghdad and Tal-afar than I did in the ghetto. Sure I had an M4 and 11 other guys with me but it's sad.

It's a culture not even really associated with rap music or the thug mentality. Plently of people around me now have that look and listen to rap. These slums or ghettos are a difficult problem to address. I've only ever seen places like that changed overseas with guys patrolling the streets in uparmored vehicles.

People need inspiration and drive to change, there are no more Dr Kings or JFK's in this country anymore. We need leaders who do not need to lead through legislation but threw the power of words and action. Not for political gain, or financial gain but for a drive to help people better themselves and their communities.

The main voices in the black community honestly do not give a shit about these communities, which is a shame.

 

[Moonbeam]

Our economic system is unfair and unjust, So long as we do nothing about jobs our country will rot and it will rot the most where poverty is greatest. If money is required for happiness than it is the job of the government to see to it that everybody can find one. I see no reason why ghettos that are failing can't be rebuilt by the people who live in them. Let the military create and organize a civilian army of folk to do public works. We can do solar, the electric grid, wind etc. plus redesign our whole civilization. Children need hope as they grow up and so long as there aren't jobs for them we are lost. When the only way to stay alive is to prey on other people, that's what will happen. But that kills the soul.

 

[SheHateMe]

I have zero white neighbors, and I feel perfectly safe running at night or hell even leaving my car unlocked sometimes (too lazy to go down stairs to check).

It's a culture not even really associated with rap music or the thug mentality. Plently of people around me now have that look and listen to rap. These slums or ghettos are a difficult problem to address.

Wat?

You mean, you haven't been raped and murdered by a ghetto savage wearing a hoodie in deep cover blasting violent rap music from his durango with his convict friends? 😛

 

[Pr0d1gy]

I saw this on Amazon. I was surprised to see such political discussion on Amazon.

Of course the "racist" card is being pulled, again, just like in here.



Full link = http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/di...x148DA585SFSDU

Just wait until the economy finally collapses, then you will see what ghetto really looks like.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Where's Bill Cosby....he's good at yelling at people from the ghetto

 

[marincounty]

Our economic system is unfair and unjust, So long as we do nothing about jobs our country will rot and it will rot the most where poverty is greatest. If money is required for happiness than it is the job of the government to see to it that everybody can find one. I see no reason why ghettos that are failing can't be rebuilt by the people who live in them. Let the military create and organize a civilian army of folk to do public works. We can do solar, the electric grid, wind etc. plus redesign our whole civilization. Children need hope as they grow up and so long as there aren't jobs for them we are lost. When the only way to stay alive is to prey on other people, that's what will happen. But that kills the soul.

You have some good ideas. Too bad the Republicans pissed away all of the money on tax cuts for the rich and unnecessary wars. Oh, but they're building schools in Afghanistan.

 

[brycejones]

Then go tell a ghetto person what they're doing wrong. See how right you are. Time to nut up.

We'll be waiting for video of this act of civic engagement. However it would require him putting down the Cheetos and Mountain Dew long enough to get out of his Mom's trailer.

 

[Vic Vega]

Why doesn't America hold the ghetto community to task?

Your average person doesn't have the time or energy to do anything about it.

Those in government think that either 1.) They aren't responsible for "fixing" them (Republicans) or 2.) Benefit by keeping them the way they are (Democrats).

Knowing that, I don't see anyone doing much about it any time soon.

 

[Vic Vega]

You have some good ideas. Too bad the Republicans pissed away all of the money on tax cuts for the rich and unnecessary wars. Oh, but they're building schools in Afghanistan.

Republicans and Democrats voted to go to war and both voted to fund it.

Kindly shut your whore mouth you dishonest hack.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Stop privatizing prisons.

Immediately execute any citizen on their third felony in 30 years.

Immediately execute anyone in the prison system who has had more than 3 felonies in 30 years.

Forced castration on any citizen who is on public assistance and has more than two children.

All public assistance is limited by time. 10 years. After that, if your life is not back together you are put on a mental institution farm/labor camp setup exactly how china runs theirs.


We would have less crime/thug life, less 'public' poverty, and it would bring cheap labor back from china.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Our economic system is unfair and unjust, So long as we do nothing about jobs our country will rot and it will rot the most where poverty is greatest. If money is required for happiness than it is the job of the government to see to it that everybody can find one. I see no reason why ghettos that are failing can't be rebuilt by the people who live in them. Let the military create and organize a civilian army of folk to do public works. We can do solar, the electric grid, wind etc. plus redesign our whole civilization. Children need hope as they grow up and so long as there aren't jobs for them we are lost. When the only way to stay alive is to prey on other people, that's what will happen. But that kills the soul.

It is not the government's job to find happiness for its citizens.

If a citizen is unwilling to find happiness through hard work and pride then no reasonable amount of assistance will help.


Our American thug culture would rather get a $2000 monthly stipend and deal drugs than flip burgers for $2100. That is an issue of ethics and pride, and products of our American thug culture certainly aren't going to help build public works for the rich folk for that amount of money.

You would have to pay them more than a college educated hard-working citizen or else they will continue to sit on the couch getting high, dealing drugs, and collecting assistance.

 

[Doppel]

Stop privatizing prisons.

Immediately execute any citizen on their third felony in 30 years.

Immediately execute anyone in the prison system who has had more than 3 felonies in 30 years.

Forced castration on any citizen who is on public assistance and has more than two children.

All public assistance is limited by time. 10 years. After that, if your life is not back together you are put on a mental institution farm/labor camp setup exactly how china runs theirs.


We would have less crime/thug life, less 'public' poverty, and it would bring cheap labor back from china.

This would work very well long term but introduce other issues. One would be a race war, two would be now we're really afraid of the state (I would be).

 

[glenn1]

This would work very well long term but introduce other issues. One would be a race war, two would be now we're really afraid of the state (I would be).

Bring it on. Their targets for murder, rape, and pillaging would be the yuppie urban white folks, not the suburbs.

Your average person doesn't have the time or energy to do anything about it.

Those in government think that either 1.) They aren't responsible for "fixing" them (Republicans) or 2.) Benefit by keeping them the way they are (Democrats).

Knowing that, I don't see anyone doing much about it any time soon.

Republicans and those who engaged in "white flight" thought they were administering some tough love to the ghetto by writing them off politically and publiclly shaming them respectively. Instead of getting the point that it was about making a statement about their behavior and horrifying culture being beyond the pale of civilized people, the ghetto instead interpreted it as being simple racism. Thus they actually doubled down on the bad behavior, saying in effect "if we can't do anything well except for being bad, we're going to be as good as possible at being bad." Thus the pathology has only multiplied in the last couple decades; since illegitimacy, drug dealing, and gang-related shootings have become literally the only thing the ghetto community can point to as a "point of pride," as fucked up as that is.

 

[glenn1]

Our economic system is unfair and unjust, So long as we do nothing about jobs our country will rot and it will rot the most where poverty is greatest. If money is required for happiness than it is the job of the government to see to it that everybody can find one. I see no reason why ghettos that are failing can't be rebuilt by the people who live in them. Let the military create and organize a civilian army of folk to do public works. We can do solar, the electric grid, wind etc. plus redesign our whole civilization. Children need hope as they grow up and so long as there aren't jobs for them we are lost. When the only way to stay alive is to prey on other people, that's what will happen. But that kills the soul.

A fine example of progressive philosophy; emulate the Romans paying tribute to the Visigoths hoping they don't sack your city because they're too weak, too, too cowardly, or too unwilling to face them down.

 

[Genx87]

If we dropped the war on the drugs it would help these neighborhoods. But also the community needs to come to grips with other social issues that have huge ramifications. Out of wedlock babies, teen pregnancy, drug abuse, and lack of education.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

If we dropped the war on the drugs it would help these neighborhoods. But also the community needs to come to grips with other social issues that have huge ramifications. Out of wedlock babies, teen pregnancy, drug abuse, and lack of education.

No. The thugs use drugs as a means of making money without having to work. If drugs were legalized they'd deal in stolen cars or something else. Thug types are not interested in a 9 to 5.

 

[Genx87]

No. The thugs use drugs as a means of making money without having to work. If drugs were legalized they'd deal in stolen cars or something else. Thug types are not interested in a 9 to 5.

Take away that huge source of income and they wouldnt be fighting a war over turf, killing people in the process, and destroying the youth by recruiting them into the gang to sell more drugs to up and coming users.

I do not buy into the idea that if the war on drugs was stopped every one of these people would resort to stealing cars or breaking into homes. It is much more difficult to do that than selling drugs. And it pays much less.

The war on drugs has been an abysmal failure. And these ghettos have been directly affected by it.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

This would work very well long term but introduce other issues. One would be a race war, two would be now we're really afraid of the state (I would be).

If a race war is a result of getting rid of these thugs then that's on them. It would be a war of people who make their living off of terrorizing innocent people.

And I do agree regarding fearing the state, that's why I think it should be a '3 strikes you're out' system.

Yes, people get "screwed"... Once, sometimes twice. But, if you're hitting 3 felonies in a thirty year period then the problem is you, not the system.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Take away that huge source of income and they wouldnt be fighting a war over turf, killing people in the process, and destroying the youth by recruiting them into the gang to sell more drugs to up and coming users.

I do not buy into the idea that if the war on drugs was stopped every one of these people would resort to stealing cars or breaking into homes. It is much more difficult to do that than selling drugs. And it pays much less.

The war on drugs has been an abysmal failure. And these ghettos have been directly affected by it.

Your experience with these guys is zilch. I spent close to 2 years between the county jail and prison. Trust me when I tell you those guys aren't going to go legit once the drug money dried up.

Either way it's a pointless argument because drugs will never be legal. We still have a good portion of the country that believes Reefer Madness was all true.