Why doesn't America hold the ghetto community to task?

[Svnla]

I saw this on Amazon. I was surprised to see such political discussion on Amazon.

Of course the "racist" card is being pulled, again, just like in here.

Doel A. Perez says:
As a person that grew up in Queens, New York, I'm well versed in all things ghetto. Thus, i've made it my life's mission to raise my children in the exact opposite manner. Anytime someone brings up the jaw dropping stats from welfare, violence. thefts, education and incarceration, the media and the ghetto supporting communities make excuses for them. I find it amazing that such a community is so against change. I know people who think that being a well spoken, educated and gentle person is "acting white". I know women who refuse to date men because they have no "swag". I've even seen a surprising amount of white kids adapt the ghetto mentality. What are we becoming? What is our end goal? I don't want readers to interpret the "ghetto" community as a code word for black. Because the truth is that while that community almost universally accepts that mentality, a large chunk of the hispanic community and to a lesser extent the white community are adapting it as well. What can be done about this? Are we doomed to become a country of ignorant, aggressive, hyper sexed and criminally minded people?

Full link = http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/di...x148DA585SFSDU

 

[nextJin]

Are we doomed to become a country of ignorant, aggressive, hyper sexed and criminally minded people?

I thought that question was already answered when Obama was elected? One only has to look at our HOS mention a son like Treyvon as opposed to falling asleep to go campaign the next day after the embassy attacks.

 

[Matt1970]

Big difference between having the gangster look and having the gangster lifestyle.

 

[umbrella39]

How is linking to forums on Amazon newsworthy here? Not even any commentary from OP... Please just forward the contents of your Inbox next time...

 

[Incorruptible]

This is a problem with liberals. Many people have wanted those speaking in ghetto to learn proper English but the liberals don't like this.

 

[CrackRabbit]

This is a problem with liberals. Many people have wanted those speaking in ghetto to learn proper English but the liberals don't like this.

That is funny coming from the guy who can't post in proper English more than half of the time.

 

[nextJin]

EDIT: Of course the "racist" card is being pulled, again, just like in here.

I am assuming you mean my post.

I wouldn't care if it was Hillary saying if she had a daughter that looked like Jodi Arias before the guilty verdict. The fact of the matter is this whole culture or whatever you want to call it is pretty much locked in. We are already past the point where people vote in their wants. That would be the case if any Democrat were elected in '08. The war on poverty should CLEARLY show this, if a society does not want to help itself they are doomed to failure.

Whatever happened to ask not what your country can do for you but ask what you can do for your country? That shit does not exist anymore, it never will. Jesus could rise from the grave and say those words and be booed off the stage with people screaming where are my handouts, don't take my rights to other peoples money or any other number of things they benefit from not related to actually paying for society.

 

[Nebor]

That is funny coming from the guy who can't post in proper English more than half of the time.

:biggrin:

 

[Incorruptible]

This is just political correctness and multiculturalism run amok.

 

[Spungo]

This is a problem with liberals. Many people have wanted those speaking in ghetto to learn proper English but the liberals don't like this.

Pretty much this, sort of. It's not ghetto specific but liberals to the far left seem to embrace multiculturalism even if it includes garbage cultures that shouldn't be embraced. Radical Islam in UK is one of those cultures that should not be tolerated but is. There's nothing wrong with being a Muslim but holding up signs saying people should be killed for speaking against Allah should not be tolerated. American liberals tolerate things like ghetto culture.

 

[Doppel]

Discussing the roots of problems that are predominantly affecting the black community are only acceptable in light of things that are not their fault; i.e. residual effects of slavery, lack of civil rights, etc.

As soon as you start criticizing that community for issues that are exacerbated by their own culture and values you are a damned racist.

The truth is multiple factors are at play. Most people outside of that community are afraid to criticize lest they be deemed a racist, and so instead they will just white-flight out to the suburbs. Then the inner city problems don't bother them and they don't need to really worry about them.

 

[Nebor]

Discussing the roots of problems that are predominantly affecting the black community are only acceptable in light of things that are not their fault; i.e. residual effects of slavery, lack of civil rights, etc.

As soon as you start criticizing that community for issues that are exacerbated by their own culture and values you are a damned racist.

The truth is multiple factors are at play. Most people outside of that community are afraid to criticize lest they be deemed a racist, and so instead they will just white-flight out to the suburbs. Then the inner city problems don't bother them and they don't need to really worry about them.

But then they start reoccupying the inner cities via gentrification, and all of a sudden they're racists again.

 

[Balt]

But then they start reoccupying the inner cities via gentrification, and all of a sudden they're racists again.

Just one of the many contradictions.

People complain "No one spends any money fixing up our neighborhood." People move in and fix up some houses, open a couple of shops, and then the residents complain that property values go up.

People complain "The police don't care about crime in our neighborhood." The cops step up patrols and enforcement, people then complain they are being targeted because their teenage son was stopped while roaming the streets at 3am.

 

[waggy]

Why doesn't America hold the ghetto community to task?


A) it would be considered racist
B) its the white mans fault. we are keeping them down!
C) slavery

i think i covered all the answered that people will give.

 

[Attic]

Decent Video Price of changing an intergral part of the ghetto culture,.. Welfare.

I thought both speakers have decent points, neither one is entirely correct. Unfortunately the solution, if there is one, is still elusive to our enlightened leadership.

 

[her209]

This is just political correctness and multiculturalism run amok.

I bet you wouldn't say that to a ghetto person's face.

 

[Incorruptible]

I bet you wouldn't say that to a ghetto person's face.

Excellent you moron. I told the truth about a serious problem and you prefer to derail. You're part of the problem.

 

[HeXen]

Discussing the roots of problems that are predominantly affecting the black community are only acceptable in light of things that are not their fault; i.e. residual effects of slavery, lack of civil rights, etc.

As soon as you start criticizing that community for issues that are exacerbated by their own culture and values you are a damned racist.

The truth is multiple factors are at play. Most people outside of that community are afraid to criticize lest they be deemed a racist, and so instead they will just white-flight out to the suburbs. Then the inner city problems don't bother them and they don't need to really worry about them.

That is why more educated blacks and other minorities need to criticize, at least they can't cry racist, not that they won't find some other way to cry loudly.
We should probably start doing away with inner cities, tear down buildings once they are not in use and plant some trees and just keep doing that until it's gone.
But whatever, there are no solutions because you can't help and change people that can't help and change themselves

 

[her209]

Excellent you moron. I told the truth about a serious problem and you prefer to derail. You're part of the problem.

I'll take that as a "no" then.

 

[Incorruptible]

I'll take that as a "no" then.

I told the truth you didn't

 

[Lithium381]

I already tried to have this same discussion in the DISCUSSION CLUB but was just labled a racist and dismissed.

That's why we can't have change.

 

[her209]

I told the truth you didn't

Then go tell a ghetto person what they're doing wrong. See how right you are. Time to nut up.

 

[Phokus]

That is funny coming from the guy who can't post in proper English more than half of the time.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Incorruptible]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

You bitch idiot imbecile.

 

[Nebor]

I bet you wouldn't say that to a ghetto person's face.

Because they would only understand 3 words in that sentence.

I've been in that situation, where someone was trying to tell me how all black people are poor because "the man" keeps them down and poor. I tried to explain to them how we'd all be better off if the inner city poor weren't poor, but were actually productive components of the economy and not a social program drain. I lost them during the first sentence. In a system where education isn't valued, what else can you expect?