Why do you guys bother with PC gaming?

[skipsneeky2]

Couple post mention a cheap case heck i love my antec 300 with the case allowing up to 5 case fans with one being a 140mm which cools off my system just fine for its price when compared to its big brother the 900 which i have owned before .

Can't see what more you need for a single gpu system heck for $45 i am happy .

 

[SickBeast]

Yeah that was a cheap shot about the cheap case.

Take Mercedes as a brand, for example. It costs a lot but the actual quality of the car is garbage.

Some people like to spend money on strange stuff. To each their own. *shrug*

 

[RaistlinZ]

$600 computer + F2P/flash web games gets you the most entertainment for your money.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

WTF is with the trolling of SickBeast's rig?
My office rig is similar to his (8GB, PII X4 @ 3.7GHz, 6950 1GB, Thermaltake Dokker, BFG ES-800).
Is my home rig (i7 920 @ 4.1GHz, 6950 2GB, 8GB, P183, BFG EX-1000) better? Sure. Is it ~$300+ better than my office rig? Not really, but I make an exception for that one machine.

If you rang my doorbell and left $10 million on my front porch, sure, I'd overnight a whole bunch of 2600Ks from newEgg (main, office, HTPC, file server, even the damn torrent/net system).

 

[HeXen]

You sound like someone who has Mom and Dad buy their stuff.

There is something to be said about bang for the buck and saving a few dollars here or there.

Buying high end is never a good buy. I bet Intel loves when you spend $1000 on an Extreme processor don't they?

you sound like someone who makes assumptions. so why do you care so much about my opinion? lol thats sad. its my opinion, thats all there is to it. deal

 

[SickBeast]

*grabs popcorn*

 

[RussianSensation]

Right now people could spend the same amount and get something significantly better than what I have.

Most people buying consoles may not be technically savvy to find $90 deals on a GTX460. They may not even own a desktop (since most people today gravitate towards laptops/tablets/smartphones). They probably walk into Best Buy and see a GTX460 for $165 and realize for $40 more they can buy an Xbox360 and be done with it.

Again, this argument is getting old. What do you mean by "better"? You are referring to better graphics I presume? No one knowledgeable enough who owns a PC and also plays console games is going to argue that consoles have superior graphics, because they don't. We PC gamers know that.

However, people play some consoles game because they are fun, not available on the PC, provide a social gaming environment that PC can't match, easy to pick up to (don't require 10 hours of getting into like SKYRIM). If none of the genres available on consoles that are superior (racing, action/adventure, fighting interest you), if you don't care to play games with friends socially, if you hate the console controller, etc. all these are valid points for not gaming on the console for you.

I know that my HD6950 @ 6970 can play BF3 with graphics that blow Uncharted 2 out of the water. But I don't care for BF3 multiplayer, and would much rather play Uncharted 2 or Gran Turismo at 1280x720 with 0AA than BF3 at 2560x1600 16x Super Sampled....You know at the end it's all about the types of games each gamer enjoys. For example, the upcoming Zelda Skyward Sword game for the Wii, despite horrible graphics and 'kiddie design', will be a bazillion times better than the single-player campaigns of Medal of Honor, BF3 or MW3. But that's for me -- for you, you might put 1000 hours into BF3 in the next 12 months :thumbsup:

But if you enjoy racing games for example and deny the greatness of either Project Gotham Racing, Gran Turismo, Forza, then you just make yourself look biased. And don't say Dirt 3 is the same because you can't race supercars in Dirt 3.

Take Mercedes as a brand, for example. It costs a lot but the actual quality of the car is garbage.

I think you should stick to PCs. I doubt you have ever driven a modern Mercedes car, nevermind one from their AMG stable. I am also going to say that you don't care for luxury and you also have never driven faster than 125 mph anywhere that wasn't a racetrack to appreciate the stability of a german car at 125 mph. I mean unless of course you drive a Bentley Continental GT / Rolls Royce Drophead daily and your weekend/track car is a Ferrari F458 or a Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0, then ya, Mercedes is "garbage" as you put it. It's only after American automakers started to acknowledge that their cars were inferior in just about every way, that we started to get much improved American cars in the last 5-7 years (with better cornering performance, efficiency, interior materials design/quality, reliability and luxury features), while the Europeans have been building great cars for 20-30+ years.

This thread can basically be summarized as: "My opinion is better than yours." All consoles games are the stupid. Consoles have crappy graphics and crappy controls. We get it, let's move on.

What would any of us achieve if we went on a console forum and started a thread that PC gaming is better than consoles? or if we went on a motorcycle forum and started a thread that cars are better than motorcycles... ya. Pointless.

For people who enjoy a wider variety of games, then buying a $300 console in 2007-2008 was not a lot of $ (esp. since consoles have replaced DVD/Blu-Ray, online streaming/Netflix capable devices in many households), and there is a trend towards owning 1 device for many of your needs. And for people who don't care for console games, great - spend your $$ on PC hardware Everyone wins.

And the most simplistic case before taking $$ or graphics into the equation: If most of your friends/colleagues game on the PC, well you'll probably want a PC. If most of your friends game on a console, you'll probably want a console too. And if you want to play specific games that are best on a certain platform, you just buy both.

 

[Cerb]

There's some good gaming you just aren't getting on the console.

While I paid full MSRP, the Morrowind GOTY box was indeed priced right at $20. With MSGO and TR, it does need my GTX 460 to be OCed a bit, unlike newer games , but turned down a bit would still look and play fine on much lesser hardware.

Throw in fair magicka regen, sane animal behavior, herbalism for purists, some NPC mods, wildlife mods, side quest guild quest and house quest mods, and more detailed ruins mods, and I've got a game with so many great hours of gameplay that I hardly need anything else.

On the console, it would be as ugly, slow, and buggy as it was in 2003, with a UI that is maddening, after playing newer games. On top of that, accurate ranged spell casting is next to impossible without a mouse.

In the past, as well, I got to experience Mechwarrior 2, Mechwarrior 3, Tribes, Quake, Quake 2, Doom, Serious Sam, and others, in ways you still can't on a console, even for ported games (keyboard, mouse, real joystick, mods). Now, bad console ports can keep the reverse true, sadly (BG&E, as an example: did they spend more than 5 minutes on the UI?!). And, while I don't recall the details, I vaguely remember the PC ports of the first few Resident Evil games being pretty bad.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Yeah that was a cheap shot about the cheap case.

Take Mercedes as a brand, for example. It costs a lot but the actual quality of the car is garbage.

Some people like to spend money on strange stuff. To each their own. *shrug*

Not to sure about the quality of the newer Mercedes versus old but i know a classic 80s 300d with its motor can run 500k and to me that's quality.

But prefer the indestructible mopar slant 6 myself :thumbsup:

 

[SickBeast]

You know what, it appears as though Mercedez's quality has improved over the past few years. My apologies. They used to have a reputation for poor reliability. The same goes for Jaguar. The turnaround is quite impressive.

 

[lehtv]

GTX 460 $90
GTX 460 $100
Phenom II X4 w/ Crossfire motherboard $140
Antec 300 case $30
OCZ 1000w PSU $30
8gb of memory $40
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$430 total

Even with my SSD and the other 4gb of ram I'm all in for under $500.

There is no way you bought all of these components new.

My PSU is made by PC Power & Cooling which has a good reputation and it runs off a single rail. I haven't had any issues with it thus far.

PCP&C doesn't manufacture power supplies, they're a brand. OCZ bought the brand, it didn't make them OCZ's manufacturer, just a brand owned by OCZ Technology.

Cheap doesn't mean bad, either. My case is all aluminum and keeps my PC cool and quiet.

Antec 300 is made of steel, not aluminium.

 

[SickBeast]

lehtv, they are all new and are glorious.

my mistake on the 300. steel is just about as good anyway.

 

[Jaskalas]

Why do you guys bother with PC gaming?

It gets worse, if you'll indulge.

As mobile devices such as tablets replace desktops the gaming PC will look increasingly like the upper 1% than a typical computing setup. Game devs will find fewer reasons to program for the 1%. You can imagine how that might stall future development on the PC.

Even video cards will become scarce as you won't be buying them for your tablet. Certainly nothing that resembles today's behemoth models.

So goes the desktop computer, so goes PC gaming and its video cards. The end of an era?

 

[SirPauly]

Actually, PC gaming is gaining revenue and been hearing doom-and-gloom, really for a decade now.

The key to PC gaming is its flexibility.

 

[sm625]

I played Shadowbane on the PC for 5 more years than I'd like to admit. I literally used every key on the keyboard; I even utilized several CRTL, ALT, and SHIFT key combos. I used insert, page up, page down,tilde, everything. I play LoL now and I use many keys. Not the whole keyboard, but most of it.

After nearly 30 years of gaming, I can barely even hold an interest in a game where all you do it press "triangle, square, triangle". I mean, really? Consoles are for noobs.

 

[sep]

I play both, console and pc, I'm a gamer ; )

I have to say both have there place.

I've been pc gaming since Snipesl and don't think I'll ever stop.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Actually, PC gaming is gaining revenue and been hearing doom-and-gloom, really for a decade now.

The saving grace for PC gaming is MMOs and Facebook games. If you leave those out, the margin staggering between consoles and PCs. Don't get me wrong, everyone in this thread I'm sure is a huge Farmville fan, the most popular PC game by a long shot, while I'm sure noone would touch the most popular console game, Call of Duty(IMO, they are comparable, but that's me ).

I mean, really? Consoles are for noobs.

Demon's Souls. Give it a shot. Play Farmville and Demon's Souls back to back. PCs are clearly the noob platform(hell, use Diablo 3 compared to Demon's Souls). I am an MMO player, and fully realize that the PC has large advantages in certain areas, but overall PC games tend to be obscenely easy due to PC gamers demanding hyper nub all the time mode("no save anywhere- I will NEVER buy a game without it... wahh wah, boo hoo etc").

SickBeast- I completely understand leaving the monitor out of your equation, but I have ten year old PCs that would demolish the rig you list when it comes to actual gaming. They have, you know, a keyboard and mouse For me, my KB/Mouse combo costs almost as much as a PS3(my next KB/Mouse will cost more).

 

[SirPauly]

The saving grace for PC gaming is MMOs and Facebook games. If you leave those out, the margin staggering between consoles and PCs. Don't get me wrong, everyone in this thread I'm sure is a huge Farmville fan, the most popular PC game by a long shot, while I'm sure noone would touch the most popular console game, Call of Duty(IMO, they are comparable, but that's me ).



Demon's Souls. Give it a shot. Play Farmville and Demon's Souls back to back. PCs are clearly the noob platform(hell, use Diablo 3 compared to Demon's Souls). I am an MMO player, and fully realize that the PC has large advantages in certain areas, but overall PC games tend to be obscenely easy due to PC gamers demanding hyper nub all the time mode("no save anywhere- I will NEVER buy a game without it... wahh wah, boo hoo etc").

SickBeast- I completely understand leaving the monitor out of your equation, but I have ten year old PCs that would demolish the rig you list when it comes to actual gaming. They have, you know, a keyboard and mouse For me, my KB/Mouse combo costs almost as much as a PS3(my next KB/Mouse will cost more).

What you call the saving grace is what I call its largest strength; its flexibility.

 

[Idontcare]

you sound like someone who makes assumptions. so why do you care so much about my opinion? lol thats sad. its my opinion, thats all there is to it. deal

You sound like someone who has Mom and Dad buy their stuff.

There is something to be said about bang for the buck and saving a few dollars here or there.

Buying high end is never a good buy. I bet Intel loves when you spend $1000 on an Extreme processor don't they?

wow, what a POS rig. lmao.
that PSU last longer than 5 months? lol. but whatever. if i'm gonna invest in a gaming rig. i buy quality parts and go high end. i want it to last a few years. not replace something in a year or struggle with certain games next year. that crap is a waste.
now that i think about it. i spent more on my case than most of that setup. But of course its dampened, tough and will virtually last me many, many ...many builds. maybe its just me, but i always hated cheap cases.

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[Vesku]

I got stuck in Skyrim last night, ~ to open console > toggle collision. If I was on a console I'd have to load about 3 saves back.

 

[Puppies04]

it's pretty insane what PC gamers spend just on video cards. a video card can cost the same or more than an entire PS3/360. all these $1,000+ rigs, all the questions and research on cooling, power consumption, SSD, and so on, when you can just buy a PS3 for $250 and turn it on and be done with it.

not to mention the dearth of games for PCs in the last decade. when i did most of my gaming on a PC back in the 80s/90s, there were new titles left and right.

Page 10 and you lot are still feeding the troll

 

[SickBeast]

LOL

The OP does have a point, though.

Too bad for him, my rig cost $400 and change and it will crush his weak consoles like a Bulldozer being pounded deep within the earth's crust by a Piledriver. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

()

 

[RavenSEAL]

OP has clearly never played a true PC game on a true PC. I get headaches whenever I look at console graphics now.

 

[HeXen]

i have PS3 for exclusives and rentals. it saves me money on PC games cause i can rent the same game first to see if i like it enough to buy.
But no one ever buys a console to get the best geek experience possible, they just buy it to play the games, not get mad over pixels.

 

[hoppussinatrya]

it's hard to play shooter and strategy game in console