CycloWizard: Many people will do whatever they can get away with. The kids in college now have been told their entire lives that nothing they do is their fault. The system of "compassion" you and Moonbeam preach is the driving force for their inability to behave in a responsible manner.
M: I do not know what system of compassion Icepick does or does not espouse, but the 'system' I speak of has nothing to do with compassion. You live, in my opinion, in a world of delusion where free willed beings are running around, some exercising responsibility and some not, whereas I see a world inhabited only by machines. You have the delusion that you are a fee agent but because you are not conscious of what you feel and are thus motivated by forces you don't understand, you are effectively asleep. That, however, does not flatter your ego which is built of the illusion that you are a responsible being who deserves all the praise that goes with such.
Furthermore, it is you who are responsible for the irresponsibility of youth today, not me. You and your ilk created a world of responsible morality and shoved it on your kids, making them feel worthless if they couldn't achieve. You made them hate themselves and created a culture where other fools would try to step in to fix it. All these poor self hating zombies you responsibility quacks created bully other kids prompting other idiots to step in and try to make them feel good. Your kind made folk feel bad and now you kick those too blind to know how to help but see what the problem is, low self esteem. And you blame others precisely because you are at fault yourself, at fault, that is as a causative agent, not as a responsible one. You and the fools you create are not at fault because you are all asleep, zombies if you will.
CW: No one almost kills me when they hand in an assignment late. If someone is perfectly willing to roll the dice and kill someone in order to tweet while driving, is it wrong to remove that person from society?
M: There you go again, they rolled the dice. They did what they did because they are asleep. You can't blame a machine. It may be perfectly alright, however, to remove such a person from society if they fail in the future to exercise better self reflection. We can remove them but we can't assign no personal blame. They are poorly programmed machines.
Judge not because you are also a zombie. You are also mindless because you do not know what you feel. Your only claim to fame is that you conform to to ethical ideals that flatter your ego and look down on those who do not.
CW: The same driver almost hit a pedestrian who had just cleared her lane of traffic. If the student had hit him at 40 mph, he would surely have been maimed or died. It's interesting that you demonize me rather than the other driver, a reckless zombie who has no regard for the lives of others as evidenced by actions.
M: As you can see, it is the demonetization that is at the root of human mental illness. Neither you with your machine opinions or her with her machine actions are demons. It is just sleep, an unawareness of what you feel.
CW: I've never heard anyone cry out in dismay when zombies are shotgunned by the thousands in movies. What is a zombie but a human mindlessly killing other humans?
M: You forgot to add 'or a human who mindlessly teaches other people they are worthless when they act irresponsibly'.
CW: The difference is that I know it's not my job to be judge, jury, and executioner. I didn't get out of my car and kick the student in the face. I made a personal decision to extend unwarranted compassion to the zombie. I called the cops. The cops are there to enforce the law because something as nebulous as compassion cannot be enforced, much less institutionalized. Relying on compassion to run society is resulting in the zombie apocalypse as we speak.
M: Hehehe, When you see that people are asleep you can have compassion for them but that changes nothing except elimination all the insane moral indignation that you feel. Those who prove to be reckless and dangerous to others have to be prevented from doing so. Punishment will only make them worse, but they simply can't be allowed to continue to harm others. They have to be stopped and they should be treated, but by whom, I cannot say. How do machines that sleep awaken other sleeping machines?
CW: Some of you don't seem to realize the reason government exists. It is to ensure rights of its citizens. Specifically, rights to life, liberty, and property. It's not to make its citizens feel all warm and fuzzy. It's not to tell them "Don't sweat it" when they almost kill someone out of complete negligence. In this case, my rights were violated and the other party is skating away while I foot the bill. Anyone defending the student has no concept of what rights are or the purpose of government and is effectively enabling these shenanigans.
M: Your self hate makes you toe the line. You were programmed to act with what you call responsibility. You hate others who do not have your conditioning and you do not want them to get well as you do not want to get well yourself. To you any attempt, fools attempts included, to make folk feel better means giving them an excuse for irrational behavior. The truth could not be farther from that. People who like themselves act with real responsibility, responsibility that comes from within, that is natural and unforced. But the idea that you can tell a person with deep self hate that what he does is OK is absurd just as you say. It is all that folk who see the damage done by low self-esteem can see to do, because they too do not want to feel what they really feel.
The truth is always some third way, in this case, understanding that self hate is at the core of everything and that is is very difficult to cure. In a culture that judges folk too much it is better if that moves the other way, but a culture that accepts to much shit needs to move back. The third way is to understand the fulcrum from which all this swings and treat the real cause. That means that the battle begins with self awakening.
CW: You can call me heartless or whatever you want, but if government isn't going to secure my rights, then I will have to.
This is not a joke. I guess
this guy should have made tea for the guys invading his home with assault rifles in the middle of the night? Maybe he can compassion them into submission when
other guys return and shoot up his house?
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