Why do some atheists love circlejerks on a tech forum?

[destrekor]

IRL, most outspoken atheists I have known (not all that many, really) have been hardcore libertarians.

Hmm, it does make sense, as it too has seen a growing trend, a rise in awareness and practice.

Both ultimately remain in the shadows of the world at large, or in this case, our country. One is rising faster than the other in prominence, and hopefully Libertarians can gain some kind of footing in our political bodies.

Ultimately, I (and many) would loathe to see the day that Libertarian ideals take hold in the country at large... but there are many things to be learned from the ideology of Libertarian politics. There are certain balances that it would help create, but a wholly Libertarian U.S. would probably be just as bad off as we are today.
Which is why we, quite simply, just need a political system comprised of something greater than two parties. I know the Libertarian ideals resist the notion of caucuses and campaign financing... but they truly need to realize there are certain necessary evils to accept if they wish to make a contribution to our future.

However, the heathen I am, I have committed to a digression.

 

[destrekor]

Have we commenced with the philosophical circle jerk yet?

I feel it is near. :wub:

:twisted):awe:

 

[Jeff7]

Interestingly, I think I've got a mix of liberal, conservative, and maybe libertarian too?
Social liberal, usually.
Fiscal conservative, in the sense that I don't like spending on pork-laden projects (you know, gotta keep it Kosher). Efficient government, kept on a short choke leash.

So I guess that means I lean libertarian? *shrug*
I'm an engineer. I prefer practical and efficient solutions to problems.
Well, unless the solution is boring, and I've got money to burn. Then all bets are off.

Have we commenced with the philosophical circle jerk yet?

I feel it is near. :wub:

:twisted):awe:

Could you please feel just a little faster? And put some emotion into it for god's sake.

 

[randomrogue]

I admit that don't know of a polite way to tell someone that they're delusional and that their entire belief system is based on a bunch of fairy tales. I also admit that I have not looked very hard for a way to do it.

And I most definitely and freely admit that I don't give 1/10th of one iota of a shit about some bible thumper getting his feelings hurt in a thread titled "Why do some atheists love circlejerks on a tech forum?". Don't pick fights with people smarter and better informed than yourself and if you get your ass kicked as a result, learn from that and don't let it happen again. Sadly, like dogs chasing skunks, it seems the the biggest religious zealots are the ones most incapable of learning from their past mistakes.

A topic worth it's own thread really. How in the world do you deal with friends/family and their crazy belief systems? I simply ignore it. Over and over and over again. They never give up though. They all want you to reinforce their beliefs by being a part of it. At least with strangers I can tell them to fuck off or make fun of them.

 

[IronWing]

Interestingly, I think I've got a mix of liberal, conservative, and maybe libertarian too?
Social liberal, usually.
Fiscal conservative, in the sense that I don't like spending on pork-laden projects (you know, gotta keep it Kosher). Efficient government, kept on a short choke leash.

So I guess that means I lean libertarian? *shrug*
I'm an engineer. I prefer practical and efficient solutions to problems.
Well, unless the solution is boring, and I've got money to burn. Then all bets are off.




Could you please feel just a little faster? And put some emotion into it for god's sake.

Since no one got my logos joke, the circle jerk is hereby cancelled.

 

[destrekor]

Since no one got my logos joke, the circle jerk is hereby cancelled.

But, but... we were so CLOSE! ahhhhhh man, fun killer.


BTW, that logos statement was so deep it just appeared like another puddle, one which was formed to hold the puddle exactly as it looks.

I admit, I did not see it, thought it was indeed right in front of my eyes, everywhere I looked.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

A topic worth it's own thread really. How in the world do you deal with friends/family and their crazy belief systems? I simply ignore it. Over and over and over again. They never give up though. They all want you to reinforce their beliefs by being a part of it. At least with strangers I can tell them to fuck off or make fun of them.

Honestly, I kick their asses too if necessary. Eventually, they stop trying to talk religion with me. It's all about knowing how to ask questions that embarrass the shit out of them. When you say "The Bible is completely stupid because..." they just get defensive. So instead ask them why they have not sold their daughters into slavery as mandated and why they do not stone their neighbors for failing to keep holy the sabbath. Questions are better than statements. Ask them about their faith in a way they can't answer and they'll run away.

 

[BudAshes]

The reason atheists get mad is because the bible is a bad influence on people. It needs to be rebooted. How about Christians come up with a new bible that doesn't suck? As Overvolt said earlier it doesn't matter that it is just made up, it's just a tool to use for life. The problem is that right now it's a worn out and outdated tool and it needs to be replaced.

 

[randomrogue]

What's amazing is that such an absurd book could still be popular.

 

[destrekor]

What's amazing is that such an absurd book could still be popular.

It said it's important! It must be so!

 

[thejunglegod]

Religion - Guaranteeing 100+ pages of pure entertainment on tech forums since the advent of internet.


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[thejunglegod]

Hope the OP got what he was here for.

 

[BudAshes]

Religion - Guaranteeing 100+ pages of pure entertainment on tech forums since the advent of internet.


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I don't know why I like it, but I do.

 

[OverVolt]

Its currently nothing but Atheists in this thread and it really is a purely an Atheist circle jerk now :awe:

 

[JD50]

You ask atheists a question in your thread title and then call it a circle jerk when we respond. Self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Juddog]

You ask atheists a question in your thread title and then call it a circle jerk when we respond. Self fulfilling prophecy.

All part of his master plan:

* Make ridiculous assumption
* Troll responses, don't actually debate the subject at all
* Wait until the religionists are called on their lack of logic, then leave the thread
* Come back at the end after having all arguments torn apart piece by piece, then laugh calling the thread a circle-jerk
* Self-fulfilling prophecy complete.

 

[IronWing]

OP never came back. I think we converted him to our dark religion. Another soul saved from eternal whatever.

 

[JM Aggie08]

I can see the narcissism pouring out of my screen.

That said, OP got what he came for.

 

[Jeff7]

I can see the narcissism pouring out of my screen.

That said, OP got what he came for.

If it's a circle jerk, I don't think that's narcissism.

 

[JM Aggie08]

If it's a circle jerk, I don't think that's narcissism.

OP said it was a circlejerk, not me.

 

[Juddog]

I can see the narcissism pouring out of my screen.

That said, OP got what he came for.

For someone whose sole purpose is to post in the thread about how he doesn't care about what either side says, and that both sides are stupid, you are coming across as the biggest narcissist here.

 

[OverVolt]

I'm surprised how many atheists there are, it used to be around 50:50 now its like 90:10.

Its not like you guys are "right" because its the majority now, its just the demographics here suck :awe: At first the arguments for it were fairly reasonable and now you guys are just totally lost. Like the OP was saying, a circlejerk.

One athiest going "I don't agree with religion" is fine and then another follows up and its like "yea people are so stupid at funerals, they should be happy they meet their maker, their religion is so stupid, hah!" and a third one pops up and goes like "yea why are they crying they are going to meet their maker, we gotta punch some sense into people and go on a funeral punching spree!" and Athiest 1 is like "Yea! wtf is wrong with those people at funerals! they deserve to be punched in the face! yea!" and then you guys officially go full-retard in large enough numbers.

First of all no matter what religion you are, death is a sacred thing across all cultures regardless of belief. Spirituality to some degree is holding certain things sacred, you could say not letting the American flag touch the ground is a spiritual aspect of patriotism because it is sacred, but an athiest would come along and go "well there is no logical reason to not let it touch the ground, its just a flag. I'll use one as a carpet" and it totally disrespects the people who died protecting the country when you wipe your muddy feet on it everyday coming back home. As an example. Athiests = retarded.

Everyone is spiritual because in everyday life there are certain things we just do not do because we consider them sacred. Everyone has a spiritual meter or else you would act like a moron on public.

 

[shortylickens]

I would just like to say for the record: Based on everything else I've witnessed on this forum over the years, Circlejerk is not appropriate for a thread title.

 

[Phanuel]

*places a bagel in the circle*

"Last one to 'post' eats it!"




Serious answer, no not everyone is spiritual you dimwit. We have respect for traditions, sure, but that sure as shit ain't spirituality. I leave bits of the pledge of allegiance out because I find them insulting to myself. But I still do it.

And sure I go to funerals and people read from random books / scriptures, whoopily do. But honestly, I'm not sitting there thinking anything meaningful is actually happening in a 'spirit world' or an afterlife. I'm just putting a close relative or friend into the ground and saying my good byes one more time.

 

[Juddog]

I'm surprised how many atheists there are, it used to be around 50:50 now its like 90:10.

Its not like you guys are "right" because its the majority now, its just the demographics here suck :awe: At first the arguments for it were fairly reasonable and now you guys are just totally lost. Like the OP was saying, a circlejerk.

One athiest going "I don't agree with religion" is fine and then another follows up and its like "yea people are so stupid at funerals, they should be happy they meet their maker, their religion is so stupid, hah!" and a third one pops up and goes like "yea why are they crying they are going to meet their maker, we gotta punch some sense into people and go on a funeral punching spree!" and Athiest 1 is like "Yea! wtf is wrong with those people at funerals! they deserve to be punched in the face! yea!" and then you guys officially go full-retard in large enough numbers.

First of all no matter what religion you are, death is a sacred thing across all cultures regardless of belief. Spirituality to some degree is holding certain things sacred, you could say not letting the American flag touch the ground is a spiritual aspect of patriotism because it is sacred, but an athiest would come along and go "well there is no logical reason to not let it touch the ground, its just a flag. I'll use one as a carpet" and it totally disrespects the people who died protecting the country when you wipe your muddy feet on it everyday coming back home. As an example. Athiests = retarded.

Everyone is spiritual because in everyday life there are certain things we just do not do because we consider them sacred. Everyone has a spiritual meter or else you would act like a moron on public.

You have yet to address the most basic point of atheism, that it's a lack of belief in a deity or deities, and instead are attacking stereotypes that really don't exist at ATOT. It sounds to me like you're responding to a post in another forum to be honest. It shows you really have no interest in trying to understand even the basics here and just want to rant that your demographic is shrinking in size.