Why do some atheists love circlejerks on a tech forum?

[Atomic Playboy]

To be honest the whole arguement between atheists and Christians boils down to the following analogy. Let's say for example life is a car company there are known defects as a result of using the same mold for 5000 years(approximately). There is a QA section in this car company half are (Christians) other half are (Atheists). The Christian side know a defect exists in the car and sends out people to warn all the car owners that there are know defect with the car and a local dealership(Salvation through Jesus Christ) can repair/replace the problem parts. Atheists on the other had would rather state that there are no problems with the car and to keep on trucking oblivious to the problems plaguing your auto.

This explains why Christians are so quick to adapt the Bible to new discoveries from science. "This book is defective; we must work tirelessly to incorporate these new ways of thinking, or at least inform people of it's inherent fallibility!"

 

[CVSiN]

Funny, I'd call it wise for not making claims I can't support, which is something you're unfortunately unable to do. I don't believe in God--that's correct. But that's different from saying "I believe there is no God." Do you mean to tell me you honestly can't see the difference?

that is exactly the problem with Christians in general.
they are intolerant and only acknowledge that they are the only real religion and everyone else is full of it.
it wouldn't matter if you were a Buddhist you cannot debate with a devout Christian as they are worldly dumb and refuse to even acknowledge the fact that they are the new guys in religion and that they may be.. "wrong"

It is funny though to look at all the failed religions over the centuries.
and now people look at them as pure fiction.. but back then they were just as positive as the Christians today that their beliefs are real.

How is Zeus, or Ra, Osiris or any number of other older played out "gods" working out?

 

[Juddog]

This is part of what drives away people from religion:

 

[Retro Rob]

What you call mental gymnastics would better be described as "nuance." It means that I don't see everything in black and white. The world would be a much better place if people realized there aren't just two shades to it.

I actually agree with you here.

Personally, I always thought it was designed to manifest itself as a way for "non-believers" to separate and distance themselves from believers.

For instance, belief can be present without proof, but isn't always (for instance, I believe the car will complete it's trip to the store, becasue it has enough gas, and it is working order -- that's showing evidence)

"Since there is zero evidence for the non-existence or God, we can't say we "believe he doesn't exist", or we'd be living the same belief-based fariy-tale system believers do that doesn't necessarily require hard evidence for one to believe it".

I don't even know if that makes sense, but that kinda how I interpreted your post.

 

[datalink7]

Who was it that said "atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position"?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Theist: Do you believe in God
Atheist: No
Theist: So you deny the existence of God?
Atheist: No
Theist: So you do not believe in god and you do not deny the existence of God?
Atheist: Exactly

OverVolt, RobM and other idiots: Atheists are just too stupid to know what they believe...

Random forum poster: Yah, i hate Atheists who are this loud and obnoxious.

Hindu OP: We will take over the world we will, any day now!

Reality: Atheists don't have any shared beliefs what so ever, all we share is that none of us believe in god/gods. This doesn't mean that there are not Atheists that believe in unicorns or dragons or vampires, i'm sure there are, but if they do or not doesn't have the least bit to do with Atheism. There is no such thing as an Atheist belief system or faith regardless of how many times you smugly claim that there is.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Who was it that said "atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position"?

Or as bald is a hair colour or as not collecting stamps is a hobby or ... you can keep going forever and they will NEVER get it.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

LOL @ theists

 

[Cookie]

But who doesn't love a good circle jerk?!

 

[SagaLore]

But who doesn't love a good circle jerk?!

You like being in the middle of the circle?

:sneaky:

 

[Cookie]

You like being in the middle of the circle?

:sneaky:

... there is really no good way to answer that...

 

[Atomic Playboy]

... there is really no good way to answer that...

You could have gone with "EAT ME" for ironic effect and a natural close to the earlier scenario...

 

[Aikouka]

Don't have to be Japanese to enjoy bukkake! :awe:

 

[destrekor]

it's better than the only option being a reach around

 

[amddude]

I think athiest just like circlejerks in general. My fb feed is FULL of athiests constantly being butthurt about all manner of topics.

The christians, hindus and muslims I have barely say anything about religion.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I actually agree with you here.

Personally, I always thought it was designed to manifest itself as a way for "non-believers" to separate and distance themselves from believers.

No.

For instance, belief can be present without proof, but isn't always (for instance, I believe the car will complete it's trip to the store, becasue it has enough gas, and it is working order -- that's showing evidence)

It's not just that there is no evidence, it's the claim itself. Supernatural beings who creates worlds would be expected to have SOME evidence at the very least for me to believe that they are real. Do you scoff at Mormons who believe God is an ascended alien who was actually a regular guy living on another planet but who ascended to become god for this planet? Of course you do, well that notion isn't ANY stranger than any other religions claims.

"Since there is zero evidence for the non-existence or God, we can't say we "believe he doesn't exist", or we'd be living the same belief-based fariy-tale system believers do that doesn't necessarily require hard evidence for one to believe it".

I don't even know if that makes sense, but that kinda how I interpreted your post.

It has nothing to do with there not being any evidence for gods non-existence, there can be no such evidence because the god claim is not falsifiable. The falsification of religions can be had though and that's usually when the churches/theists claim that that part of their holy text is metaphorical and shouldn't be taken literally.

We can't say that we believe he doesn't exist because we don't hold that belief, it's as simple as that.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Read title as "Why do some athletes love circlejerks on a tech forum?"

Answers the same for all the above - what's not to like about a circlejerk?

 

[Pray To Jesus]

The sad thing about atheists is that they think they are intelligent yet they fail to see the obvious.

 

[alzan]

Atheists don't worship gods, they worship men, a group of them (Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennett, Harris) or the "Four Horsemen of New Atheism".

Dawkins is making a killing, financially, by convincing the world that God is not only a "Delusion", but religion is an enemy of mankind.

I guess he counts as your diety, with other like-minded Dawkin-ites.

The only difference between a Christian's diety and yours is that you can actually see him. Enjoy that man worship!

Atheists worship men? Ah yes, the "Four Horseman of New Atheism" theme again.

(You'll love this!) Prove that any/all atheists worship these men. What temples or shrines have been erected in honor of these men? Are there any rites/ceremonies that are done in the worship of these men?

Honestly, you really make yourself sound desperate with posts like this.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

It has nothing to do with passiveness, not at all.
It's a function of standard language.

You can assert gnostic atheists are believers in a religious mindset, but not an agnostic atheist.
Agnostic atheists may discuss, debate, lecture, etc etc etc... but it's more dissertation and expression of thoughts than a belief-based diatribe.
Most such atheists would say "praise God!" if such a being delivered itself right in front of us. It's hard to dispute pure evidence if its available.
The evidence the vocal atheists see today supports our/their arguments, and thus that establishes the basis of conversations and research. Many are like-minded due to the simple fact that one key piece is shared: they have arrived at the same conclusion, that empirical evidence today strongly asserts the notion that God does not, and has not existed. So, they share that, discuss it, use it to feed off each other's thoughts and even debate one another if contrary points are discovered.

The only the evidence those atheists consider are the ones that supports their position. They throw out evidence to the contrary.


Truth is that there are plenty of evidence that points to the existence of God.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

The only the evidence those atheists consider are the ones that supports their position. They throw out evidence to the contrary.


Truth is that there are plenty of evidence that points to the existence of God.

Would you mind sharing some of this evidence? I have yet to see any evidence of God that doesn't also have an explanation that does not require a metaphysical being, but I haven't heard all the evidence by a long shot.

 

[IronWing]

Truth is that there are plenty of evidence that points to the existence of God.

<Waiting>


<whistling a happy tune>


<whittling randomly on a stick>


<skipping stones across the pond>


<getting dark, time to go home>

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The only the evidence those atheists consider are the ones that supports their position. They throw out evidence to the contrary.


Truth is that there are plenty of evidence that points to the existence of God.

Show me the evidence.

*awaits the cosmological argument crap*

 

[sandorski]

Who was it that said "atheism is a religion like abstinence is a sex position"?

I have heard Bill Maher say that, but he may have been quoting someone else.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Show me the evidence.

*awaits the cosmological argument crap*

Better the cosmological crap and the "it's too complex to be random" than the Apologists* and their "well, the Bible's true because the Bible says..." crap.

*Doesn't mean what it says it means. They apologize for nothing. Because Bible.