It's your choice to possibly get killed in an accident, I agree. It's also your choice to decide whether or not someone has to be scarred for life for killing you, although I strongly advise against it. It is NOT, however, your choice if someone dies along with you. They might be wearing seatbelts, but would die anyway from your '115 lb' ass crashing through their windscreen.
It's your choice to possibly get killed in an accident, I agree. It's also your choice to decide whether or not someone has to be scarred for life for killing you, although I strongly advise against it. It is NOT, however, your choice if someone dies along with you. They might be wearing seatbelts, but would die anyway from your '115 lb' ass crashing through their windscreen.
There are quite a few people that aren't very smary in this world, and a lot of them would probably think's there is little or no risk involved in doing things like smoking or drinking because they are "legal". I am all for legalization of marijuana, but other illicit drugs should remain illegal IMHO.
That may be true if you were choosing only for yourself. Not using a seatbelt also reduces the chances of retaining any control of your car after being hit. That makes your own stupidity a danger to others.
You're really working overtime for that Darwin Award. :roll:
What control of my car after it's hit?
Once you get hit, your car comes to a halt and is out of business. There is no "controlling" left to do. Odds are, if the accident is bad enough to warrant the use of seatbelts, the wheels will probably be crushed and distorted to where you can no longer steer.
Funny because I have never met someone who didn't wear it... I even put them on my dogs.. but if you want to die if you have a crash, that is YOUR choice, which is why I voted Yes in the poll. If one needs to be seriously seriously injured or killed before they put on a seatbelt, so be it.. Darwin's rule in effect I say.
Because being anti-seatbelt would just be idiotic.
However, I do agree that we shouldn't be forced to wear them.
However, I do agree that we shouldn't be forced to wear them.
Please tell that to my cousin who died in a car wreck simply because he wasn't wearing a seatbelt. :|
Now kindly STFU.
HardcoreRobot
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because the kind of people that understand why the choice to use a seatbelt should not be determined by the government are not the same type of people that would form those types of activist groups
You obviously failed both physics and logic. Not every collision will make you lose control of your car. You could just as easily get clipped in a way that sends you into a slide, skid, spin or other displacement where you would still have time to regain control of your car before you hit something or someone else... assuming you didn't get knocked out of position to control the car.
If the collision, itself, is not your fault, and you manage to recover in time to avoid further consequenses, you could be the hero. If you lose control because you weren't buckled up, you're the goat, no matter who was initially at fault.
Do yourself a favor. As things are, now, most who have read your posts believe you're an idiot. If you keep trying to defend your idiocy, you'll only succeed in proving it conclusively. :laugh:
GeekDrew
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I personally wear my seat belt every time I'm in a moving vehicle, unless I'm driving off-road at low speed. Everyone else in my vehicle does the same. I've been in multiple situations in which a seat belt has helped me maintain control of my vehicle, because the chest strap held me against the seat, rather than me having to hold myself in place, while trying to do (whatever appropriate). I may have been in situations that most of you have never been in, and perhaps never will be in, but I *know* that seatbelts have helped me avert crisis more than once. I don't think that they should be optional.
I've seen it happen. STFU.
He needs not continue. Conclusion was possible within his first post or two.
I've seen it happen. STFU.
He needs not continue. Conclusion was possible within his first post or two.
OrganizedChaos
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how to people with leather seats not wear a seatbelt? i recently got a 97 grand cherokee orvis and my ass is all over the place without a seatbelt.
(5 January 2005, Nebraska) In September of his senior year at the University of Nebraska, 21-year-old Derek wrote an impassioned declaration of independence from seatbelts for his college newspaper. Although "intrusive and ridiculous" seatbelt laws saved 6100 lives a year, according to statistics from the U.S. Congress, Derek concluded with the statement, "If I want to be the jerk that flirts with death, I should be able to do that."
Derek "was a bright young boy, a 4.0" majoring in five subjects and planning to attend law school. He was also smart enough to tutor friends in subjects he didn't even take. But good grades don't equate with common sense.
Derek was returning from a holiday in San Antonio, Texas. The driver of the Ford Explorer and his front seat passenger both wore seatbelts. Only Derek was willing to buck the system, sitting without a seatbelt in the back seat because, in the words of his newspaper column, he belonged to the "die-hard group of non-wearers out there who simply do not wish to buckle up, no matter what the government does."
When the SUV hit a patch of ice, slid off US 80 and rolled several times, Derek, in an involuntary display of his freedom, was thrown from the vehicle. He died at the scene. The other occupants of the SUV, slaves to the seatbelt, survived with minor injuries.
Alcohol was not involved in the accident.
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2005-15.html
EDIT: So please, don't wear seatbelts. I need more meat to eat; I need more air to breathe; I need more space to inhabit.
Derek "was a bright young boy, a 4.0" majoring in five subjects and planning to attend law school. He was also smart enough to tutor friends in subjects he didn't even take. But good grades don't equate with common sense.
Derek was returning from a holiday in San Antonio, Texas. The driver of the Ford Explorer and his front seat passenger both wore seatbelts. Only Derek was willing to buck the system, sitting without a seatbelt in the back seat because, in the words of his newspaper column, he belonged to the "die-hard group of non-wearers out there who simply do not wish to buckle up, no matter what the government does."
When the SUV hit a patch of ice, slid off US 80 and rolled several times, Derek, in an involuntary display of his freedom, was thrown from the vehicle. He died at the scene. The other occupants of the SUV, slaves to the seatbelt, survived with minor injuries.
Alcohol was not involved in the accident.
http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2005-15.html
EDIT: So please, don't wear seatbelts. I need more meat to eat; I need more air to breathe; I need more space to inhabit.
Amused
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A perfect example of how socialism destroys individual freedom.
We have seat belts and helmet laws now, next are laws restricting or banning any and all activities deemed "risky" in the name of saving public funds. We already see this with tobacco and some states even have soda/junk food taxes. We are headed down a VERY slippery and dangerous slope here, folks.
When you have an entity taking care of you, that entity gets to dictate how you live.
Do I wear a seat belt? Yes. Do I want or need a nanny-state to force me to? No.
I belive that people should have the choice not to wear one. However here in Canada I also belive that No Seat Belt should equal NO GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE!
No, the real reason for seatbelt laws is the cost that the taxpayers bear to pay for the extra medical care needed by those who don't wear seatbelts and get into accidents. Same for helmet laws.
It's very, very rare for someone's flying body to hurt someone else outside the car. Don't be hysterical.
I actually agree with JLGatsby that seatbelt laws are pointless for adults, BUT you're still an idiot if you don't wear them, and you should have to pay your own medical bills if you get into an accident without one. Coddling those with no common sense is NOT what the "land of the free" should be about.
I admit I haven't been in every single car ever made, but in all the ones that I'VE seen, the driver's seat has a back.
The Democrats want to be your nanny, and the Republicans want to be your Big Brother. We can't win.
JulesMaximus
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