Why are there no anti-seatbelt groups?

[Toastedlightly]

If you don't realize Gatsby is trolling, I feel bad for you.

 

[Vegitto]

JLGatsby, while I agree with you on this, don't present your assumptions as facts. When MEN debate, they present facts instead of trying to pass off their imaginations as facts.

 

[bsobel]

The odds of your body hitting someone is so astronomical it's laughable. I mean seriously, like literally one in a million. I doubt if it's even happened before.

You are right, the person was on the right 'track' but gave a darn wrong answer. Seatbelt laws (and helmet laws, for example) exist not primarily to save your life (althougth that is how they are pitched) it's to save money. The average medical costs of someone in an accident without a seatbelt are higher than those with. Insurance companies (for those insured) and everyone else (for people without insurance via taxes) pays for it.

You might not like the truth, and you may want to show your freedom by not wearing either, but thats the underlying reason for the laws.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Look in the mirror and ask yourself the same questions, troll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA1hwjBJS5E

Dude, those were actors and that video was not very realistic.

Most people "brace" themselves before a crash, unless they're not paying attention. That guy was reaching up and down seats.

And the SECOND car hit them from behind? Seriously, what are the odds of that.

Yes multiple car pile ups happen, but that storyline was very unrealistic.

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: DefDC
Does anyone have a good reason why you WOULDN'T wear a seatbelt?

You shouldn't wear it because you're only giving into what the government wants.

If you spend your life doing what people tell you, you'll get stomped on, especially by the government and nosey people trying to take away your personal freedom.

Originally posted by: swtethan
seatbelts save lives

Exercise saves lives. Should we FORCE people to exercise?

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ya its called gym class... and yes we should force all fat people to exercise

 

[SVT Cobra]

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL FFS. He is going to make one of these threads everyday now that the douche lied and came back and destroyed our nice peace, we got rid of Loke and now we have to put up his sh!t, so stop it now before it begins. Ignore his stupid posts, he only wants a responce.


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[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: confused1234
ya its called gym class... and yes we should force all fat people to exercise

No, you know it would be wrong to force people to exercise. That ridiculous.

Then they could take it further and further, telling people how to live their lives, until we basically have a government as intrusive as North Korea. Where do you draw the line? You can't. You have to stop before you even start drawing lines.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: swtethan
No wonder someone made that plugin for FF to ignore your posts, I think I'll go download that now.

Can't debate like a man?

"How old are you? Do you have no common sense at all?"

"Seriously that's stupid to even think that."

"That's seriously the dumbest thing I've ever heard."


What kind of debate is this? In a debate, you dont insult your opposition. I will not debate anyone that cannot have the capacity to be curteous and polite.

This is my last post to you BTW.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: confused1234
ya its called gym class... and yes we should force all fat people to exercise

No, you know it would be wrong to force people to exercise. That ridiculous.

Then they could take it further and further, telling people how to live their lives, until we basically have a government as intrusive as North Korea. Where do you draw the line? You can't. You have to stop before you even start drawing lines.

With this I agree. Governements are pussifying us and our children (I don't have any, yet) and are very intrusive of our personal PRIVATE lives. You have NO right to listen to what people say on the phone because one or two people in AN ENTIRE COUNTRY might, MIGHT be planning attacks.

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: confused1234
ya its called gym class... and yes we should force all fat people to exercise

No, you know it would be wrong to force people to exercise. That ridiculous.

Then they could take it further and further, telling people how to live their lives, until we basically have a government as intrusive as North Korea. Where do you draw the line? You can't. You have to stop before you even start drawing lines.

why dont we ablosish drug laws too? i mean if i want to shoot up meth everyday shouldnt i beable too?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: confused1234
why dont we ablosish drug laws too?

Why not? I think we should, and many others do to.

In the future, when modern medicine is able to "chemicially rehabilitate" people, taking away their addictions, making drugs legal will be realistic option.

I think people who drink, smoke, and use drugs are stupid, but that's my opinion, and it's not my business to force it onto others.

 

[confused1234]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: confused1234
why dont we ablosish drug laws too?

Why not? I think we should, and many others do to.

In the future, when modern medicine is able to "chemicially rehabilitate" people, taking away their addictions, making drugs legal will be realistic option.

I think people who drink, smoke, and use drugs are stupid, but that's my opinion, and it's not my business to force it onto others.

so i guess you also think prisons are bad? the govt. is locking people up against their will

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: confused1234
so i guess you also think prisons are bad? the govt. is locking people up against their will

Non-violent drug offenders? Yeah, they're locking of lots of innocent people. "Protecting them from themselves."

I'm not the only one who thinks that. A lot of people are lobbying to get non-violent drug offenders out of jail because they're overcrowding the prison system.

 

[LiquidImpulse]

wow Gatsby, I'm sorry, but you sir, are a moron. You don't even have a sensible rebuttal for anyone to take you seriously.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: confused1234
why dont we ablosish drug laws too?

Why not? I think we should, and many others do to.

In the future, when modern medicine is able to "chemicially rehabilitate" people, taking away their addictions, making drugs legal will be realistic option.

I think people who drink, smoke, and use drugs are stupid, but that's my opinion, and it's not my business to force it onto others.

Then, why can't I kill someone when I'd feel like it?

 

[uberman]

I used to live on an indian reservation. Native Americans did not have to wear seatbelts.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Then, why can't I kill someone when I'd feel like it?

You know very well why. Hurting yourself and hurting others are two different things.

That's the whole point behind seatbelts.

I think kids should be forced to wear seatbelts, but adults, who can make their own decisions, shouldn't have to.

 

[MixMasterTang]

Man, I was glad I saw JLGatsby posting again, in some odd way I kind of missed his childish rants and his opinionated arguing, but that only lasted for about two minutes and now I just wish he would go away again.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
There is a group for almost everyone.

For or against whatever. But there are not groups trying to strike down the evasive seatbelt laws.

I don't know anyone who wears a seatbelt.

I was never required as a kid. I never wear them now as an adult. And it's my choice.

Where are the anti-seatbelt crusaders? Who will protect us from our protectors?

I totally support you not wearing a seatbelt. I also strongly advise you to run with scissors, play golf in a Lightning Storm and to walk into a bar full of Hells Angels and call them all a bunch of pussies!

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
walk into a bar full of Hells Angels and call them all a bunch of pussies!

If they saw 115lb me walk in and call them pussies and I think they'd bust out laughing.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: confused1234
why dont we ablosish drug laws too?

Why not? I think we should, and many others do to.

In the future, when modern medicine is able to "chemicially rehabilitate" people, taking away their addictions, making drugs legal will be realistic option.

I think people who drink, smoke, and use drugs are stupid, but that's my opinion, and it's not my business to force it onto others.

Then, why can't I kill someone when I'd feel like it?

Ah, now _that_ is the dumbest thing I've seen in this thread, and it takes _serious_ dumbness to beat Gatsby.

In what way, exactly, is drug use equivelent to murder? Who do I hurt when I light up this joint? Surely no one but myself - and even that is debateble. The joint is undoubtably damaging me less than the beer in my other hand for example.

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
How old are you? Do you have no common sense at all?

The odds of getting hit by a flying human body is about the same as shooting a bullet straight in the air and it coming down and hitting someone in the head, killing them.

The odds of your body hitting someone is so astronomical it's laughable. I mean seriously, like literally one in a million. I doubt if it's even happened before.

If you are sitting in the back seat of a car behind the driver, and there is a head on crash, the chances of your body hitting someone is in fact nearly 100%.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Why are there no anti-seatbelt groups?

There is. They're listed at The Darwin Awards.

For or against whatever. But there are not groups trying to strike down the evasive seatbelt laws.

EVASIVE??? :roll: Well, at least, your vocabulary suggests a reason for your lack of understanding. Clue -- There is nothing any group can do to get anyone to repeal the laws of physics.
I don't know anyone who wears a seatbelt.
You must be a very lonely guy. Seatbelt usage in the U.S. exceeds 75%, but it still leaves room for improvement, especially compared to other countries.

For a nation arguably more dependent than any other on the car, the U.S. has an occupant safety record that leaves significant room for improvement. Despite recent achievements, the U.S. fares worse in seatbelt use and traffic fatality rates when compared to other industrialized nations, including Great Britain, Germany, Sweden, Australia, and Canada. Seatbelt usage exceeds 90% in several of these countries, while the U.S. seatbelt use rate is currently 75%, an all-time high. In addition to having higher seatbelt usage rates, these countries have lower traffic fatality rates: for example, 9 out of 100,000 in Germany and less than 6 out of 100,000 in Great Britain die in traffic crashes; in the U.S., it's over 15 out of 100,000.

I was never required as a kid. I never wear them now as an adult. And it's my choice.

That makes you a good candidate for a Darwin award. Thanks for not contributing to the gene pool. ;laugh;

Where are the anti-seatbelt crusaders? Who will protect us from our protectors?

The same place you'll be, more likely sooner than later.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Then, why can't I kill someone when I'd feel like it?

You know very well why. Hurting yourself and hurting others are two different things.

That's the whole point behind seatbelts.

I think kids should be forced to wear seatbelts, but adults, who can make their own decisions, shouldn't have to.

Totally agreed.

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: confused1234
why dont we ablosish drug laws too?

Why not? I think we should, and many others do to.

In the future, when modern medicine is able to "chemicially rehabilitate" people, taking away their addictions, making drugs legal will be realistic option.

I think people who drink, smoke, and use drugs are stupid, but that's my opinion, and it's not my business to force it onto others.

Then, why can't I kill someone when I'd feel like it?

Ah, now _that_ is the dumbest thing I've seen in this thread, and it takes _serious_ dumbness to beat Gatsby.

In what way, exactly, is drug use equivelent to murder? Who do I hurt when I light up this joint? Surely no one but myself - and even that is debateble. The joint is undoubtably damaging me less than the beer in my other hand for example.

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
How old are you? Do you have no common sense at all?

The odds of getting hit by a flying human body is about the same as shooting a bullet straight in the air and it coming down and hitting someone in the head, killing them.

The odds of your body hitting someone is so astronomical it's laughable. I mean seriously, like literally one in a million. I doubt if it's even happened before.

If you are sitting in the back seat of a car behind the driver, and there is a head on crash, the chances of your body hitting someone is in fact nearly 100%.

Need a new sarcasm meter?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Atheus
If you are sitting in the back seat of a car behind the driver, and there is a head on crash, the chances of your body hitting someone is in fact nearly 100%.

Head on crashes account for only a small portion (probably less than 5%) of all crashes.

You have to be in a real serious crash for your body to do damage to someone else's body. I'm not saying there isn't a danger. I'm saying the danger is my choice.

 

[DefDC]

Originally posted by: confused1234

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: confused1234
ya its called gym class... and yes we should force all fat people to exercise

No, you know it would be wrong to force people to exercise. That ridiculous.

Then they could take it further and further, telling people how to live their lives, until we basically have a government as intrusive as North Korea. Where do you draw the line? You can't. You have to stop before you even start drawing lines.

why dont we ablosish drug laws too? i mean if i want to shoot up meth everyday shouldnt i beable too?

Heh. I think I actually side with you on the seat belts, but the drug laws are an entirely different thing. All drug laws SHOULD be abolished. Do you you think people would start doing drugs if they weren't illegal? Would YOU start doing heroine if it was legal? No. It's just like drinking and smoking. People who want to, are going to regardless if it's illegal or not. If drugs were decriminalized, we'd just pay less taxes in housing non-violent criminals, and these sick people could get treament...

But that's another topic...