Why are non-believers of God so angry?

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shadow9d9

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Your thinking of Muslim extremists. It's wrong to compare your typical hardworking American Christian with those psycho's.

At first I thought this was sarcasm until I saw the poster. The sad part is that you actually belief your religious nuts are ok and theirs are evil.

You'll probably just throw out the "they are bombing and we aren't" without realizing that christian countries have been interfering in the middle east for years, helping to keep them oppresses by propping up dictators. You won't acknowledge that christian nations are wealthy and muslim nations are poor and uneducated. Which are more likely to have acts of terrorism?

Meanwhile there are plenty of abortion bombers and other violent religious nuts here.
 

totalnoob

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These ideologies were atheist and they were deadly. So the idea that organized religion is unique in people killing each other is silly.
As far as I am aware, Stalin did not collect stamps.

Let me ask a question dear reader: Do you collect stamps? You don't?? Omg...YOU'RE JUST LIKE STALIN!!! STAY AWAY FROM ME!!!

Do you see the absurdity of trying to tie people together who share nothing but a LACK of participation in some particular activity? Stalin was a militant warmonger atheist. John Lennon was a peace loving hippie atheist. Aside from lacking religion, they are polar opposites. There is nothing in atheism that gives people a tendency towards any particular outlook on life..so it's ludicrous to implicate atheism with the same type of violence done explicitly in the name of religion.
 
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shadow9d9

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These people replaced their religion with an ideology and did atrocious things. The driving force behind race purification in Germany was the ideology. The driving force behind starving millions in the Ukraine and in China was forced farm collectivation. The force behind millions dead across the world from war was the revolution.

These ideologies were atheist and they were deadly. So the idea that organized religion is unique in people killing each other is silly.

A lack of belief in one mystical being is an ideology that drove those events? Do explain.

How is it any more far fetched than saying unicorn nonbelievers have started every war?
 

Atreus21

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Because the believers in god force their beliefs upon us and are often violent about it.

* Guys who blew up WTC - believed in god.
* Guys who carbomb in Iraq - believed in god.
* Guys who blow up abortion clinics - believed in god.

Folks who are unbelievable prolific with their philanthropic efforts - believed in god.
Composers of some of the most beautiful music ever to greet human ears - believed in god.
The vast majority of the population of the world - believed in god.
 

TheVrolok

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Folks who are unbelievable prolific with their philanthropic efforts - believed in god.
Composers of some of the most beautiful music ever to greet human ears - believed in god.
The vast majority of the population of the world - believed in god.

I don't think he was trying to prove that those who believe in God are "angry", he was simply citing examples of believers that are. Sure, vast amounts of believers are not angry, and vast amounts of believers are. It's a pretty foolish statement all the way around.
 

shadow9d9

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Glad you understood what I was saying. Shadow on the other hand isnt quite getting it.

One person out of 6 billion agrees with me on the internet, so I must be right!

This is why religion is so successful. Religious nuts surround themselves with other religious nuts so they keep reinforcing the same warped views.

Same things happen on KKK websites. They just all support themselves to a point where they believe that enough people agree with them that it makes their view right.
 

shadow9d9

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Folks who are unbelievable prolific with their philanthropic efforts - believed in god.
Composers of some of the most beautiful music ever to greet human ears - believed in god.
The vast majority of the population of the world - believed in god.

But they did not do it BECAUSE they believed in god.

The terrorism is done in the NAME of god.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Okay I get it you don't believe. But why the anger and venom for something you know without a doubt doesn't exist? I can see why Jesus was crucified. There is some serious hate going on.
Why do you cast all non-believers as angry? I'm not angry in God or even the concept. Just some of the believers I am not liking of. See, I am not liking some humans. Has nothing to do with the construct of a God.

Thanks for labeling me.
 

Genx87

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One person out of 6 billion agrees with me on the internet, so I must be right!

This is why religion is so successful. Religious nuts surround themselves with other religious nuts so they keep reinforcing the same warped views.

Same things happen on KKK websites. They just all support themselves to a point where they believe that enough people agree with them that it makes their view right.

I'd say in this case one person out of 6 billion doesnt get it and will continue to showcase it for the rest of us.
 

Genx87

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As far as I am aware, Stalin did not collect stamps.

Let me ask a question dear reader: Do you collect stamps? You don't?? Omg...YOU'RE JUST LIKE STALIN!!! STAY AWAY FROM ME!!!

Do you see the absurdity of trying to tie people together who share nothing but a LACK of participation in some particular activity? Stalin was a militant warmonger atheist. John Lennon was a peace loving hippie atheist. Aside from lacking religion, they are polar opposites. There is nothing in atheism that gives people a tendency towards any particular outlook on life..so it's ludicrous to implicate atheism with the same type of violence done explicitly in the name of religion.

That isnt what I am saying at all. Dont let the kneejerk break your jaw.
 

shadow9d9

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That isnt what I am saying at all. Dont let the kneejerk break your jaw.

That is exactly what your saying. He didn't believe in a god and therefore a non group "atheists" are responsible for something.

Non unicornists created every war!!! They are just as bad!
 

shadow9d9

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Notice how oil ignored my original 10 reasons for anger. much easier to just skip over what you don't like.
 

Genx87

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That is exactly what your saying. He didn't believe in a god and therefore a non group "atheists" are responsible for something.

Non unicornists created every war!!! They are just as bad!

If your reading comprehension is that is a 3rd grader I can see where you would come up with that conclusion. But honestly, I explained it pretty well if you can get past the kneejerk about Atheism.
 

Zebo

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At first I thought this was sarcasm until I saw the poster. The sad part is that you actually belief your religious nuts are ok and theirs are evil.

You'll probably just throw out the "they are bombing and we aren't" without realizing that christian countries have been interfering in the middle east for years, helping to keep them oppresses by propping up dictators. You won't acknowledge that christian nations are wealthy and muslim nations are poor and uneducated. Which are more likely to have acts of terrorism?

Meanwhile there are plenty of abortion bombers and other violent religious nuts here.

Your an idiot. There is no equivalence between Mo and Jesus or Islam and any other religion.. One was a mass murderer one said turn cheek. One says kill unbelievers and sanctifies slavery no other religion says that. Those terrorists named were rich and educated.
 
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child of wonder

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These people replaced their religion with an ideology and did atrocious things. The driving force behind race purification in Germany was the ideology. The driving force behind starving millions in the Ukraine and in China was forced farm collectivation. The force behind millions dead across the world from war was the revolution.

These ideologies were atheist and they were deadly. So the idea that organized religion is unique in people killing each other is silly.

Edit: Where did you get the idea Atheism is a disbelief in anything?!?!?!?!?!?!?! It is a rejection in a god or higher power.

Atheism is the unbelief in a deity or deities.

An Atheist cannot reject something they do not believe exists anymore than you can "reject" the tooth fairy.

Again, the atrocities you cite were not performed in the name of Atheism. They were done by evil men for evil reasons.

Do you believe the Crusades, Dark Ages, Witch Hunts, 9/11, etc. could have come to fruition if the "foot soldiers" or "grunts" who had to do the dirty work did not believe in god? Would there be a "war on terror" today if suicide bombers did not believe 72 virgins awaited them?


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To answer the OP's question -- when my parents attempt to bring my children "into the flock" behind my back, evolution deniers want "Intelligent Design" taught in my children's schools, the Catholic church denies people in Africa condoms and spreads falsehoods to discourage their use, people blow themselves and innocents up in the Middle East believing an eternal reward awaits them, ad nauseum ---- THAT is why non-believers get upset.

If those things were to go away and the religious simply practiced their religions privately and without using it as a means to interfere in the lives of others then there would no longer be anything to be upset about.
 
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shadow9d9

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If your reading comprehension is that is a 3rd grader I can see where you would come up with that conclusion. But honestly, I explained it pretty well if you can get past the kneejerk about Atheism.

Kneejerk? Nope.

There is no difference. A lack of belief is not a belief system used as a driving force.
 

Genx87

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Atheism is the unbelief in a deity or deities.

An Atheist cannot reject something they do not believe exists anymore than you can "reject" the tooth fairy.

Again, the atrocities you cite were not performed in the name of Atheism. They were done by evil men for evil reasons.

Do you believe the Crusades, Dark Ages, Witch Hunts, 9/11, etc. could have come to fruition if the "foot soldiers" or "grunts" who had to do the dirty work did not believe in god? Would there be a "war on terror" today if suicide bombers did not believe 72 virgins awaited them?

Read my entire dialogue

I'd say often times more than not. You dislike basic humanity than believers in god. We as a species have a tendeancy to believe our way is the best and attemp others to believe by force. Give us weapons and some of us take it to extremes.
 

Nik

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Your an idiot. There is no equivalence between Mo and Jesus or Islam and any other religion.. One was a mass murderer one said turn cheek. One says kill unbelievers and sanctifies slavery no other religion says that. Those terrorists named were rich and educated.

Jesus wasn't a murderer? Have you ever read the bible? People have been murdering in his name for thousands of years. Just look at David who, by "god's command," went and killed every single motherfucker of an entire nation. Every single one. Because "god" said so.