Why are non-believers of God so angry?

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Cerpin Taxt

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No I understand you're a non believer and accept that as your belief.
Only an idiot would equate non-belief with belief.

I was just wondering why you guys get so angry. I don't see a bunch of hate for lepracauns or unicorns since you tie religion with them also.
What do you think the proportion of god-believing voters to leprechaun-believing voters are?

My point is deep inside you know there is a God and for whatever reason you've hardened your heart towards Him.
It's statements like these that let me know just how stupid theists can be. You've made a statement which I know a priori to be false, so I can reasonably conclude that your belief system is disconnected from reality in that respect.

Any chance you get to speak badly of Him you'll take it.
I've never spoken about any actually existing deity.
 

dighn

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Because people reciprocate emotions.

I agree with this statement. I won't get mad as long as the believers aren't condescending about this whole matter, e.g. implying that non-believers are morally inferior, close-minded or hell-bound for eternal torment. Of course the very natural of religion makes it very difficult for them to refrain from doing so because their version of truth is the only truth,; after all how can God be wrong? and so I get angry.
 

Cheeseplug

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I would like to point out, that while most people associate Muslims with terrorist acts, and say that the darkest parts of Christianity's history (Crusades etc.) are behind them, that there are still very active and violent Christian terrorist groups.

The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda and DRC, massacres villages and they are all around evil - their leader professes to be channeling the holy spirit.

NLFT in India, forcibly converts people to Christianity on threat of death, one of the most active terrorist groups in the world.

Nagaland insurgency in India, has killed thousands and wants to establish a Christian state

Russian National Unity, a fascist paramilitary group calls for the increased power of the orthodox church. Murders and terrorist attacks have been attributed to them.

Ireland - the troubles? Ring a bell?

Just because it isn't reported in the USA doesn't mean it isn't happening.
 

Zebo

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I agree with this statement. I won't get mad as long as the believers aren't condescending about this whole matter, e.g. implying that non-believers are morally inferior, close-minded or hell-bound for eternal torment. Of course the very natural of religion makes it very difficult for them to refrain from doing so because their version of truth is the only truth,; after all how can God be wrong? and so I get angry.

Exactly, by in large people of all religions, who keep it to themselves are very moral and nice from my experience, so I don't bash until they start doing crazy ass shit. It's not polite an I happen to believe in constitutional protections.
 
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Cerpin Taxt

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As you say, there is no single unifying ideology for all atheists, therefore you cannot blame the works of a few atheists as a blanket to apply to all atheists, like Genx is attempting to do.
It is not clear to me that Genx87 is attempting to smear the totality of atheists by pointing out that some with atheistic ideologies have committed atrocities in our history. I thought so at first, and I had drafted a response to his post arguing against that position, but after consideration I think that conclusion is a hasty one.

This CAN be done for religious wars. The ideologies of the religion was the driving force for the wars.
I think the distinction between the disunity of atheistic ideologies and the unity of theistic ideologies is a rather insignificant one. Not al religions are the same, and more often then not they are in direct conflict with one another. It is a fact that at the very least they share a general belief in a god, that's about as far as commonalities necessarily go.

They were supported both in battle and back at home for the crusades, the inquisition, conquering the new world and sending missionaries with the first troops, the 1000s of years of war in europe and asia...
In general I avoid getting pulled in to comparing body counts between theists and atheists, because at the end of the day, it doesn't have anything to do with whether there exists a god or not. It's just about each side trying to demonize the other.
 

ch33zw1z

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It's only allowed if "god says so" but until he tells you to go on a holy-murderous-rampage, it's against his law to kill people.

Oh, and he's a loving god. :rolleyes:

Don't forget that he his a humble god that desires nothing more than everyone to worship him..

The OP is under the impression that everyone who doesn't believe is angry. I'm a pretty happy guy, I love my wife and kids, and my fellow man...I don't need my imagination to do it for me, I do it because it's the way I am. If you need some higher power to tell you how to live, that's great...just don't cram it down my throat and tell me how I will burn for eternity.
 

Juddog

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Don't forget that he his a humble god that desires nothing more than everyone to worship him..

The OP is under the impression that everyone who doesn't believe is angry. I'm a pretty happy guy, I love my wife and kids, and my fellow man...I don't need my imagination to do it for me, I do it because it's the way I am.

Why are you so angry BRO!?
 

BurnItDwn

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No I understand you're a non believer and accept that as your belief. I'm just not going to waste the energy to get into an all caps typing e-peen contest. I was just wondering why you guys get so angry. I don't see a bunch of hate for lepracauns or unicorns since you tie religion with them also. My point is deep inside you know there is a God and for whatever reason you've hardened your heart towards Him. Any chance you get to speak badly of Him you'll take it.

Well ... now that you mention it ...
I do sometimes get mad about other people's extreme arrogance and intolerance, but I can be pretty hard headed myself, so I do attempt to stay civil except in the most extreme cases .... such as the horse shit posted above....

It's best not to contradict yourself so blatantly. "I understand you're a non believer and accept that as your belief" and then "you know there is a god" ..... pick one, you can't believe both.

Also, I'd like to add, that "not believing" in something is NOT a belief. Perhaps you don't understand what the word "not" means. To "believe" requires faith. To "not believe" simply means, you don't take a leap of faith. I don't believe in any gods because the probability of one existing is very low. No faith necessary.

You keep spewing horseshit like that and you will clearly succeed in making more people angry.

(unless your post was in jest and my sarcasm meter is broken, if that's the case, my apologies, your satire is right up there with stuff that comes out of the onion or bbspot, you got me!)
 

Zebo

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I would like to point out, that while most people associate Muslims with terrorist acts, and say that the darkest parts of Christianity's history (Crusades etc.) are behind them, that there are still very active and violent Christian terrorist groups.

The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda and DRC, massacres villages and they are all around evil - their leader professes to be channeling the holy spirit.

NLFT in India, forcibly converts people to Christianity on threat of death, one of the most active terrorist groups in the world.

Nagaland insurgency in India, has killed thousands and wants to establish a Christian state

Russian National Unity, a fascist paramilitary group calls for the increased power of the orthodox church. Murders and terrorist attacks have been attributed to them.

Ireland - the troubles? Ring a bell?

Just because it isn't reported in the USA doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Does it say they can kill people? This is the problem I have with this whole religious equivalence argument. I could literally show you many verses of the sword in Koran, TV clips with mullas/imams saying to kill people, and have read these terrorists screeds where they justify thier actions with chaper and verse. I'm just not sure Buddhism, Taoism, Mormonism, Christianity etc are just like that.

People kill people for any old reason, we are sick, but I'm not sure that killing is legitimized as much as in Koran by other secs.
 
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BudAshes

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SO you accept our beliefs but then you say were wrong and we know it but won't admit it. SO EVEN THOUGH we could get into heaven by just accepting jesus and live forever in happiness with carebears and leprechauns(no clowns they are scary) we chose to be unhappy and go to hell. Nice theory numbnuts. People without religion are just those that aren't scared. Scared people find religion quickly because they are mentally unstable and need religion as an emotional crutch.
 
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I am a non-believer and i am not angry. I am not angry because i dont believe in any god to get angry about. I cannot defend/argue my lack of belief in something. I also do not care if people choose to believe in a god. More power to them if that is what it takes to get them through the day. As long as they dont try to preach to me about how great their god is and im going to hell etc i dont really care. You leave me alone and ill leave you alone on that subject.
 

zinfamous

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WOW, that has to be the angriest bitch ever on TV - did anyone watch this eps and know WTF this lady is going on about?

all she's going on about is how fucked-up she is. I think even her family is all "wtf is up with you, bitch?"

but yeah, i saw that way back when. It was amusing.
 

biggestmuff

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Athiest aren't so much about not believing in God, a god or gods, it's more about making fun of, raising doubt and debating against Christianity. Every once in a while an athiest will make fun of a Muslim, but it's rare.

Athiest...the new Mormons.
 

TridenT

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Because the believers believe in bullshit that affects my everyday life that comes DIRECTLY from their interpretation of their religion. So, yeah, I get angry. I get really angry.

Athiest aren't so much about not believing in God, a god or gods, it's more about making fun of, raising doubt and debating against Christianity. Every once in a while an athiest will make fun of a Muslim, but it's rare.

Athiest...the new Mormons.

Troll. Obvious troll is obvious. Ban would be sweet for this guy.
 

zerocool84

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Athiest aren't so much about not believing in God, a god or gods, it's more about making fun of, raising doubt and debating against Christianity. Every once in a while an athiest will make fun of a Muslim, but it's rare.

Athiest...the new Mormons.

Yea cus no one has EVER seen any Christian making fun of anyone else.........