Who's skipping Haswell-e and Broadwell-e?

[dave_the_nerd]

I upgraded from a Q6600 to a 3570K, so I'll probably skip the next few rounds. Call me if they release an i5-6600K, I could plug a GeForce 6600 into it and come full circle.

Even better if we have DDR4-6600.

 

[BD2003]

Part of the curse of being a hardware enthusiast is figuring out the right time to upgrade. The desire to upgrade is driven in large part by ego and boredom, and that can cause us to upgrade prematurely because we want to have the latest hardware to play with. And then a few months down the road, the itch returns and we'll be salivating at the next prospect..

At any rate, your Sandy Bridge will remain viable for years, so there's really no "need" to upgrade it at this time.....other than ego and boredom as I said earlier.

Yep. It's fun though.

I just dismantled my 4790K for a haswell-E build...seems silly, but a lot of things led to that decision. My 4790K didn't exactly win the silicon lottery, and I was never happy about that. Plus half the die is dedicated to graphics that are absolutely useless to me. Also, for the first time, I bought one of those fancy $200+ Asus motherboards and regretted it immensely - all the extra addons like sound, sata ports etc are addons you'll never use at best and PCIE lane soaking junk at worst. I also run dual GPU, and Z97 won't have enough lanes to run dual cards and an x4 NVME SSD, which are right around the corner.

At the end of the day, a 5820K is what, $20 more expensive that a 4790K? I'll pay $20 more for 2 extra cores I can actually use vs. useless graphics silicon. A basic X99 mobo costs the same as that fancy ROG mobo, except instead of upgraded sound and other useless things, I get stuff that's actually useful, like quad channel memory and more PCIE lanes. Now I can run 16x/8x GPUs and still have 4 lanes left over for a 32gb/s SSD when that time comes....and it's not like x99 is short on SATA or USB ports either.

So if you're already shopping at the top end of the Z97 platform, it basically comes down to the memory being more expensive, and while that's still an issue, for 16GB the premium really isnt that bad. You're already spending well over $500, what's another $50 at that point? Obviously the equation changes if you're shopping around the i5 range, but I think the bang for the buck is a lot better for a 5820K setup vs a 4790K.

 

[JTsyo]

My i7 920 rig is acting up but I think I'll hold off until next year and see what Skylake brings. I'll have to check perfor/price at that point to see what to get.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

My i7 920 rig is acting up but I think I'll hold off until next year and see what Skylake brings. I'll have to check perfor/price at that point to see what to get.

I had figured on "this year" for an X79 IB-E system, but the budget went for upgrades to the sig-rig. And I build for the family as well as myself. I was reminded that the X79 was an archaic chipset whose end was near. Only so many SATA-3, only six cores and other last-gen features. A sensible forum-member advised to wait for the Hassy-E.

So I budgeted the X99 i7-5820K system for next year. Or a fully working part of it, anyway. And let's say I'm "leaning toward" the 5820K . . .

 

[steve wilson]

I have an i5 2500k at 4.3ghz. All i do that is demanding of a CPU is play a few games. I can't see me upgrading until at least skylake... or when ever something is released that is a big upgrade to what I have. Like others, the only thing I might upgrade is my 120gb SSD. I do want a rift when they come out, so my 770 will need upgrading then probably.

It's good and bad... I get to save money because I don't need upgrades... but I can't scratch that itch.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I have an i5 2500k at 4.3ghz. All i do that is demanding of a CPU is play a few games. I can't see me upgrading until at least skylake... or when ever something is released that is a big upgrade to what I have. Like others, the only thing I might upgrade is my 120gb SSD. I do want a rift when they come out, so my 770 will need upgrading then probably.

It's good and bad... I get to save money because I don't need upgrades... but I can't scratch that itch.

Ain't that the Truth?! The itch has multiple dimensions for me. The fam-damn-ily is still happy with their LGA-775 Wolfdale systems. I keep thinking "They're seven years old!" If I say "Mom? Let's move you to a new computer," there is . . . hesitation . . .

So I keep thinking of a "schedule" in which I buy parts for "replacements" some months down the road. There are all sorts of temptations!

At least, I'm sticking to my plan for a 5820K/X99 build -- "next year."

I wonder if I can hold out until June?

 

[escrow4]

Ain't that the Truth?! The itch has multiple dimensions for me. The fam-damn-ily is still happy with their LGA-775 Wolfdale systems. I keep thinking "They're seven years old!" If I say "Mom? Let's move you to a new computer," there is . . . hesitation . . .

So I keep thinking of a "schedule" in which I buy parts for "replacements" some months down the road. There are all sorts of temptations!

At least, I'm sticking to my plan for a 5820K/X99 build -- "next year."

I wonder if I can hold out until June?

I'd scrap those 775 systems post haste. An i3 as I'm sure you know is just better period. Especially matched with a 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM. Night and day difference.

 

[crashtech]

High cost of HEDT makes threads like these inevitable, because it's so hard to justify spending all that money. Staying on the high end of mainstream (currently 4690K and 4790K) makes the decision easy for me. I will likely get Broadwell-K and maybe even Skylake-K, too, not that I really need to, but it's fun and not terribly cost prohibitive.

 

[cantholdanymore]

What's the general consensus on the release of Skylake-E? 2017?
If so I may stopgap upgrade from 2500k to 4790K

 

[CHADBOGA]

Money isn't an issue for me when it comes to buying myself a PC, but value for money is.

On that basis, none of Intel's greater than 4 core offerings, have remotely tempted me to date.

So yeah, I'll be skipping Haswell & Broadwell E.

 

[crashtech]

What's the general consensus on the release of Skylake-E? 2017?
If so I may stopgap upgrade from 2500k to 4790K

I don't think anybody knows yet.

 

[onelivinlarge]

Im skipping for now its just not worth the money to upgrade my 2500k. It is still fast and kicking, id love to side grade to like a 2600k/2700k or 3770k for the extra threads but other than that its just not worth it yet. Heck even the wifes q6600 is still fairly fast with a 240gb ssd with no oc

 

[tential]

Money isn't an issue for me when it comes to buying myself a PC, but value for money is.

On that basis, none of Intel's greater than 4 core offerings, have remotely tempted me to date.

So yeah, I'll be skipping Haswell & Broadwell E.

Money and Value are an issue so yes for me I don't see a reason to upgrade currently. I think if you don't have a CPU they are an EXCELLENT value for the i7 and below and you may even see value in the Haswell/Broadwell E if you utilize applications like that regularly.

For me, Skylake-E will be the next offering I look at simply because by then I expect 4k gaming to be possible and I REALLY want to be gaming on a 70+ inch display at 4K. Preferably a 80+ inch projector 4K but I know projector is far more unrealistic than a flat panel display currently.

My W1070 projector has been getting a TON of gaming love though.

 

[CHADBOGA]

For me, Skylake-E will be the next offering I look at simply because by then I expect 4k gaming to be possible and I REALLY want to be gaming on a 70+ inch display at 4K.

Does the CPU play a notably larger role in 4K gaming than 1080p gaming?

I would have thought the GPU is overwhelmingly where you would need to focus for 4K gaming.

 

[netxzero64]

skipping on haswell up until broadwell. I will wait if skylake would provide significant performance increase over IB under gaming. if not, then wait again.

I am not like other people here who has the money and luxury to upgrade everytime a new hardware arises.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

What's the general consensus on the release of Skylake-E? 2017?
If so I may stopgap upgrade from 2500k to 4790K

Most likely, as Broadwell-E is now delayed until Q1 2016.

 

[Lepton87]

Does the CPU play a notably larger role in 4K gaming than 1080p gaming?

I would have thought the GPU is overwhelmingly where you would need to focus for 4K gaming.

Of course not, the same role not one iota larger but you really need very much GPU muscle to even keep up with mainstream CPUs not to mention the high-end offerings like 4790K or 5820K with those at 4k you will pretty much always be GPU limited barring some badly threaded games like SC2 or very CPU heavy.

 

[ClockHound]

32nm Xeon hexcore ought to be enough for everybody. If it was good enough for 2010, it's good enough for 2014 and beyond. ;-)

 

[NostaSeronx]

I'm buying Skylake-EP 28-core, and then Icelake-EP 48-core.

 

[witeken]

I'm buying Skylake-EP 28-core, and then Icelake-EP 48-core.

Interesting, but will it even be called Icelake?

Typically it's 2 generations with some common suffix.

Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge
Haswell, Broadwell
Skylake, Cannonlake
Successor, Processor

 

[PhIlLy ChEeSe]

2 reasons i haven't moved ok three, got let go from my job:whiste:. Oh well, the price of DDR4 is sky high, I had a 4790K with a Z97board and i was totally let down.
My 3930K still does the job, I have a phase change unit. My 2 780TI DCII OC, I may put them under water soon, 42120 in 720 catzilla
http://www.catzilla.com/showresult?lp=366840|*|Result%20Details

 

[tweakboy]

My next upgrade is 2023 .... except I might buy a video card every 4 years..... Im happy camper... thx

 

[jpiniero]

Interesting, but will it even be called Icelake?

I think Icelake is either the real name for Cannonlake or it's a 14 nm "Skylake Refresh" type part.

I don't think you will see a "true upgrade" until After Cannonlake; and even then to play games it'd just be a bigger overkill.

 

[III-V]

Interesting, but will it even be called Icelake?

Typically it's 2 generations with some common suffix.

Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge
Haswell, Broadwell
Skylake, Cannonlake
Successor, Processor

I think Icelake is either the real name for Cannonlake or it's a 14 nm "Skylake Refresh" type part.

I don't think you will see a "true upgrade" until After Cannonlake; and even then to play games it'd just be a bigger overkill.

Icelake has FIVR, so it is not a Skylake derivative.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/mathew-kottoor/3/798/bb5

Seronx gets the credit for finding that.

 

[tweakboy]

When is North Pole coming out.. ?? Win 11 ?