Who would make a good next POTUS?

[Blackjack200]

Jon Stewart!

He's as clean as you can get currently from the full of stinking shit from everyone in politics right now

Did you see him fold against Rumsfeld? Yeah, I see that guy standing up to entrenched fascists in Washington?

 

[Indus]

Did you see him fold against Rumsfeld? Yeah, I see that guy standing up to entrenched fascists in Washington?

We aren't going to find a human who isn't human unless we want Trump 2.0.

 

[dyna]

Presidential Candidates
Peter Dinklage aka Tyrion Lannister
Lena Headey aka Cerse Lannister
Emilia Clarke aka Daenerys Targaryen
Kit Harington aka Jon Snow

VP Candidates
Iain Glen aka Jorah Mormont
John Bradley aka Samwell Tarly
Aiden Gillen aka Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish
Carice van Houten aka Melisandre

 

[Blackjack200]

The Democrats decided collectively that Iraq wasn't worth bothering with once Obama won.

You're right, but I don't think that their voters agree with that position.

Perhaps I should vote for my dog again.

I will vote for Biden if he is the nominee, I understand the consequences of the election as I did when I voted for Clinton in 2016. But I will consider myself lower than dog shit for voting for a war criminal. There is ultimately no justification for that.

We aren't going to find a human who isn't human unless we want Trump 2.0.

We can't nominate someone perfect, so let's nominate someone that's fucking terrible? Giggling about idiot Republicans and calling Trump von Fuckstick or whatever is a pretty low bar. He would absolutely not have the ability to make the changes needed.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Ms Warren hasn’t protected her name & brand well enough. That’s my only complaint about Her.
Similar to Pelosi she’s let her name & brand be tarnished so bad it can be said she is a detriment.

I will be honest I was thinking of Pelosi when I read Warren so I agree. They are interchangeable as weak and pathetic. We need stronger leaders. I can't even tell you which one is 1/1000000 Native American but it doesn't matter. Nearly all white people in America will have trace amounts of black, red, yellow, brown blood mixed in but still identify as white. Unless you were born in a lab I would think there would be very little chance any American's DNA would come out out to be 100% Caucasian. I would like to run my DNA but am not willing to have it added to the government's database. I myself am Caucasian from German and English descent, but you know damn well somebody was strokin a hottie from some exotic locale along the way. I would be disappointed otherwise!

 

[sandorski]

I will be honest I was thinking of Pelosi when I read Warren so I agree. They are interchangeable as weak and pathetic. We need stronger leaders. I can't even tell you which one is 1/1000000 Native American but it doesn't matter. Nearly all white people in America will have trace amounts of black, red, yellow, brown blood mixed in but still identify as white. Unless you were born in a lab I would think there would be very little chance any American's DNA would come out out to be 100% Caucasian. I would like to run my DNA but am not willing to have it added to the government's database. I myself am Caucasian from German and English descent, but you know damn well somebody was strokin a hottie from some exotic locale along the way. I would be disappointed otherwise!

Everyone has African DNA, because that is where we came from.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I will be honest I was thinking of Pelosi when I read Warren so I agree. They are interchangeable as weak and pathetic. We need stronger leaders. I can't even tell you which one is 1/1000000 Native American but it doesn't matter. Nearly all white people in America will have trace amounts of black, red, yellow, brown blood mixed in but still identify as white. Unless you were born in a lab I would think there would be very little chance any American's DNA would come out out to be 100% Caucasian. I would like to run my DNA but am not willing to have it added to the government's database. I myself am Caucasian from German and English descent, but you know damn well somebody was strokin a hottie from some exotic locale along the way. I would be disappointed otherwise!

The whole thing is foolish. I don’t know her specifics but it’s a pretty common family story in the North East. I have a similar story in my family.
The form where the claim was made is an informal survey that the State sends out to businesses built on State land which is not uncommon in Boston.
I managed a place above the Mass Pike, I had to hand out a survey once or twice per year that asked all employees what their ethnic background is. I don’t remember a box to opt out but I may be wrong. The form had all the usual ethnicities you’d expect and an other box with please explain. The form even asked “what you identify as”. I remember once guy chose “Martian” another girl checked every box possible since she was adopted. Other than collecting and mailing the form off, I never had a report or any suggestions regarding racial make up of my employees.
The form is simply something the State likes to have.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Cory Booker, Julián Castro, Michelle Obama, Bernie (maybe, he's really getting to an age where it could affect him), Melinda Gates

The experiment known as trump has failed spectacularly. Next time we opt for someone who has zero experience in the public sector, we pick a scientist of some sort or another.

 

[glenn1]

Michelle Obama has no reason to run or experience for anyone to vote for her.

And since Biden has been brought up as a possibility, why not Al Gore? He’s 70 years old now so it’s not like he’s that old.

 

[Jhhnn]

I figure there's a better than even chance that president Pence will be running in 2020. Just sayin'.

Realizing that straight white middle aged men have won 44 out of 45 times we could try Sherrod Brown, Mitch Landrieu or Chris Murphy. Lots of the others mentioned so far are really too old for us to ask them for 2 terms, which is what we want.

 

[Jhhnn]

Michelle Obama has no reason to run or experience for anyone to vote for her.

And since Biden has been brought up as a possibility, why not Al Gore? He’s 70 years old now so it’s not like he’s that old.

Al Gore already lost. Thanks for your concern.

 

[Blackjack200]

Michelle Obama has no reason to run

Except that she's one of the most popular political figures in the country (or at least she was a couple of years ago, haven't checked it recently.

or experience for anyone to vote for her.

Again, see 2016.

And since Biden has been brought up as a possibility, why not Al Gore? He’s 70 years old now so it’s not like he’s that old.

Ugh.

 

[UglyCasanova]

There’s no reason our presidents have to be one foot in the grave. We had to choose between two senior citizens in 2016, why? The elderly I know can be nice but don’t seem all that in tune with modern America. Obama was 47 when he was inaugurated, that seems reasonable.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Like Grand Inquisitor of the local HOA, the only person who might be good at the job doesn't want it and has no intention of running for it. Any person high enough up in politics (governor, Senate, House) has already been bought and paid for by the special interests on his/her side of the aisle and will represent them, not us. The American political system is geared so that the most corrupt rise to the top, the most successful are those who can make the most false promises to raise the most money and hire the best speechwriters and strategists to craft the message most likely to incite the far from center wings of the parties.

And any person who could tell the truth, to make Americans understand that we are the source of our problems, that hard work is to be admired and that both the far left and far right are unreasonable zealots that need to be shunned, not lobbied to can't possibly be elected. So the next POTUS won't be good, he/she will merely be elected because the law says that someone, no matter how loathsome, has to win.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

There’s no reason our presidents have to be one foot in the grave. We had to choose between two senior citizens in 2016, why? The elderly I know can be nice but don’t seem all that in tune with modern America. Obama was 47 when he was inaugurated, that seems reasonable.

I am in total agreement with this statement. No qualifiers. Well said.

 

[Jhhnn]

The Democrats decided collectively that Iraq wasn't worth bothering with once Obama won. Perhaps I should vote for my dog again.

It was winding down nicely at the time. We were out in Dec of 2011 in accordance with the agreement signed by GWB. Not that conservatives didn't rave & concern troll about it at the time.

 

[UNCjigga]

Cory Booker, Julián Castro, Michelle Obama, Bernie (maybe, he's really getting to an age where it could affect him), Melinda Gates

The experiment known as trump has failed spectacularly. Next time we opt for someone who has zero experience in the public sector, we pick a scientist of some sort or another.

Melinda Gates? Talk about a dark horse candidate...I actually like it! Unfortunately, outside of a few development wonk circles she has zero recognition.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Michelle Obama has no reason to run or experience for anyone to vote for her.

And since Biden has been brought up as a possibility, why not Al Gore? He’s 70 years old now so it’s not like he’s that old.

Haha as opposed to Trumps scary good qualifications?

 

[Incorruptible]

Dr. Rand Paul would be an excellent choice, He is very supportive on civil liberties, supports justice reform, non-interventionist foreign policy and is fiscally conservative.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It was winding down nicely at the time. We were out in Dec of 2011 in accordance with the agreement signed by GWB. Not that conservatives didn't rave & concern troll about it at the time.

We've got a list of those who died at the top of the forum. That doesn't mention those who were family and loved ones. They will never "wind down". There was no justice or closure offered them. Agreements by GWB did nothing for them.

All that suffering swept under the carpet for political expediency.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Trump had no experience to run and plenty of Russians to help him. I don't see why others can't get elected the same way.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I know I read that yesterday but it’s far too high brow. Nobody’s going to care if a tribe endorsed her.
Be smarter to go on the attack against Private Bine Spurs.

Nope. Better to run *for* something/anything than try and be the anti-trump. I suspect that it doesn't actually matter though as I believe that Trump will be a 2 term president. (if we haven't reached Armageddon in the meantime)

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Dr. Rand Paul would be an excellent choice, He is very supportive on civil liberties, supports justice reform, non-interventionist foreign policy and is fiscally conservative.

I could actually learn to like Rand Paul to some degree. He's somewhat pragmatic, not a hardliner on many issues and closer to center than a vast majority of Republicans. And that's why he got his ass kicked so thoroughly in 2016, He's conservative enough to be painted as a devil incarnate by the lefties and liberal enough that right wing Republicans view him as a traitor who will never be one of them. It's hard to be a serious candidate when both parties have such strong objections.

That's the problem with American politics now. Without a clear front runner the parties USED to compromise and nominate closer to center candidates who might be able to cross the aisle and gain some support from voters on the other side who didn't love their own guy too much. Now it's the opposite, both parties run as far from center as possible and rather than being viewed as acceptable to both sides the moderates are viewed as unacceptable to both sides.

 

[sportage]

We're all living in nutsville now.
So... it would need to be someone crazier than the current crazy occupant.
Absolutely NOT any politician. Not if dems hope at all to win.
And Bernie already lost once. People DO NOT like losers.
That's why Hilary lost, for one, and why Mitt Romney was smart enough to pass.
They were both past losers.
I give Mitt credit for at least understanding THAT.

No..... it MUST BE someone totally off the wall.
Someone that has no concept of civility or concept of common sense.
Someone that maybe had their own TV sitcom at one time, then tweeted something offensive and racist, and was fired by Disney.
Maybe a loud mouthed chubby fat lady?
But, she would need to register as either a democrat or as an independent first.
Better yet, proclaim no party. Non-political.

Either THAT suggestion (above), or someone with a GIMMICK.
Like..... some outlandish democrat teaming up with an equally outlandish republican.
I'm thinking Howard Stern and Rudy Giuliani. Assuming Howard is a democrat?
Stern and Giuliani 2020. You get the drift....
Two of the most un-imaginable looneys around teaming up together to take on the king looney.

Or speaking of gimmicks, how about a nudist?
Someone who insists on never wearing clothes.
Our first naked president, and naked vice president.
Hopefully, two people that are health conscious and physically fit.
But I guess fitness wouldn't particularly matter.

The only way to win in 2020 is either going totally crazy, or coming up with a really good gimmick.
I wonder if THE POPE would be available???
How about The Pope with Giuliani?

Or.... Bill Gates with a gimmick.
And Gates gimmick could be promising every voter $50,000 cash.
Either that, or A BRAND NEW CAR !!!!!
Give me your vote, YOU GET A CAR!
AND YOU GET A CAR!
AND YOU GET A CAR!
AND YOU GET A CAR!
AND YOU GET A CAR!

 

[Jhhnn]

Like Grand Inquisitor of the local HOA, the only person who might be good at the job doesn't want it and has no intention of running for it. Any person high enough up in politics (governor, Senate, House) has already been bought and paid for by the special interests on his/her side of the aisle and will represent them, not us. The American political system is geared so that the most corrupt rise to the top, the most successful are those who can make the most false promises to raise the most money and hire the best speechwriters and strategists to craft the message most likely to incite the far from center wings of the parties.

And any person who could tell the truth, to make Americans understand that we are the source of our problems, that hard work is to be admired and that both the far left and far right are unreasonable zealots that need to be shunned, not lobbied to can't possibly be elected. So the next POTUS won't be good, he/she will merely be elected because the law says that someone, no matter how loathsome, has to win.

You project the GOP modus operandi of radicalism onto Dems. The Dems sure as Hell didn't pander to the "far left" nearly as much as the GOP pandered to the deplorables.

They're all the same so just tear it all down & watch it burn, right?