Who will liberals blame if Trump wins the election.

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Triloby

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Even if Trump wins, both the GOP and Democrats in Congress and the Senate will make sure that he becomes a one-term president only.
 
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Not only are career contributions stupid to use in the current election cycle, especially for someone who was a Senator for years in the state where those companies are headquartered, but campaign donations are bribes now? This is very strange to hear, as Obama got a ton of money from Wall Street in 2008 and then enacted legislation that they totally hated. How do you explain this? Were their bribes ineffective then but will be effective now? Are all donations bribes or only these?



Speaking fees are now bribes too?


Butbutbutbut, it's Hiillaaarrryyyy! We *know* she's evil because 25 years of attacks have told us she is.

BEN GHAZI!!!! (a hell of an actor!)

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Moonbeam

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Butbutbutbut, it's Hiillaaarrryyyy! We *know* she's evil because 25 years of attacks have told us she is.

BEN GHAZI!!!! (a hell of an actor!)

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I blame this liberal rationalism that will settle for something they believe to be better than Trump preserving the endless status quo of having medeocracy in office rather than a revolutionary. The rational acceptance of the same old same old is killing the nation. This is a disaster reality the liberal inability to feel fear wifi not face. It's the cold blooded mess of frogs that make them easy to boil.
 

shortylickens

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Im not liberal and I will blame EVERYONE.
Trump is like a fat ugly Hitler and it sickens me he's got millions of supporters.
 

sportage

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I agree.
I'd blame reality TV and celebrity.
And a general poor selection of candidates, because after all and when you think about it, who in their right mind would ever want to be or run for president?
Anyone that runs for president would be like jumping feet first into a volcano.
Your kids are picked apart, your spouse, your entire life going back to kindergarten school.
As a first grader, did you pull the crust off the bread of your jelly sandwich?
That just might come back to haunt you. And could be the deciding factor in your winning or losing.
And what does bread crust say about your ability to fight ISIS?
Well... you know it would be twisted into meaning something about your ability to rule the free world.
 

mect

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Bailout was Bush, not Obama.

If you want to see how much Wall Street appreciated what Obama did for them look at their 2012 contributions compared to 2008. That's what hate looks like.

You seem to be contradicting yourself with this post.
 

Vic

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Do you have such a hard time seeing that people can come to different conclusions than you do and not be nuts?
The conclusion that one is being persecuted because one is being prevented from persecuting others is not rational.
 

buckshot24

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The conclusion that one is being persecuted because one is being prevented from persecuting others is not rational.
How is it rational to assume not baking a cake for Jim and John's "wedding" is persecution.
 

Jhhnn

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Do you have such a hard time seeing that people can come to different conclusions than you do and not be nuts?

Hyperbole often? Humans are never completely rational. Good luck trying to explain how Trump love is a rational phenomenon. Explain how it has anything to do with common decency while you're at it.

What Trump offers is just a more vulgar rehash of culture warrior values, such as they are.

What kind of foreign policy do you think we'll have when all his advisors are picked from the Neocon foreign policy establishment?

What kind of SCOTUS picks do you think we'll get from Heritage, who made up the list he offers?

What kind of tax & spending policy will we see with a Repub congress who share Trump's goals of cutting taxes on the financial elite? Haven't we seen that such tax cuts simply override fiscal considerations entirely & serve as excuse to kill much needed social programs?

Do you think congress will authorize the funding to go Gestapo on the Latino community, both citizens & otherwise?

His appeal is based on the empty headed discontent of people who still believe in the divisive right wing propaganda that brought us to this juncture.
 

Vic

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How is it rational to assume not baking a cake for Jim and John's "wedding" is persecution.
The bakers were fined for breaking the law, not for not baking the cake. In fact, it wasn't the refusal to make the cake that got the Kleins in trouble so much as their retaliatory actions against the lesbian couple after they had filed their complaint. But don't let facts get in your way.

BTW, do you have any idea just how recently it was that homosexuality was considered a serious crime in most areas of the US? And that gays, consenting adults, were treated like pedophiles? And how quickly we would go back to that if conservative Christians had their way? You're not the victim here. You're complaining about baking a cake when your ilk put them in prisons and forced them to register as sex offenders as recently as 2 decades ago.
 
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buckshot24

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The bakers were fined for breaking the law, not for not baking the cake. In fact, it wasn't the refusal to make the cake that got the Kleins in trouble so much as their retaliatory actions against the lesbian couple after they had filed their complaint. But don't let facts get in your way.
So these chicks filed a complaint because of? Not baking the cake.
BTW, do you have any idea just how recently it was that homosexuality was considered a serious crime in most areas of the US? And that gays, consenting adults, were treated like pedophiles? And how quickly we would go back to that if conservative Christians had their way? You're not the victim here. You're complaining about baking a cake when your ilk put them in prisons and forced them to register as sex offenders as recently as 2 decades ago.
I'm not claiming persecution! You call not baking a cake persecution and anybody who disagrees with you is wrong. That isn't a rational position to hold. I don't consider not getting a wedding cake made by a specific baker as persecution.

I don't think people should be in jail for acting on their homosexual desires so please quit trying to lump me in with others who may have. That is a dishonest debating tactic.
 

buckshot24

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How is your headset about gays any different than the headset behind segregation & Whites only businesses?
I don't have a problem with "gays". They are free to act as sinfully as they want as all of us are.