Who will Kamala pick as VP?

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Wisconsin, Iowa and the Dakotas know him. What happens there?

 

[Stokely]

So you lose the east if you pick someone from the west...and vice versa?

I guess there I was being optimistic, giving people a bit more credit than that. Then again, I've talked to voters, so maybe you all are onto something.

As I said, very few voters know any of these people before they start running nationally. Nobody here knew anything about Harris until recently, people that want to actually take the time to find out will learn about Walz soon enough (including me). Obama was "who?" but he actually won here twice, easily.

 

[pete6032]

As a western battleground resident the veep selection is a big "Meh." He doesn't move the needle here at all. None of my early arrival coworkers know who he is. He's not going to make any inroads with the black and Hispanic populations that are so crucial here. Harris better hope he can lock down a Midwestern state or two and they can find other ways to mobilize western demographics, because this ain't gonna do it out here.

I think the party wanted a middle-aged white man to shore up the middle-aged white voter base, as bad as that sounds.

 

[UNCjigga]

lmao

these guys have no idea what they are doing

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820818882438771066

He’s going full-on ballz to the Walz.

 

[K1052]

As a western battleground resident the veep selection is a big "Meh." He doesn't move the needle here at all. None of my early arrival coworkers know who he is. He's not going to make any inroads with the black and Hispanic populations that are so crucial here. Harris better hope he can lock down a Midwestern state or two and they can find other ways to mobilize western demographics, because this ain't gonna do it out here.

That's Kamala's job. From what I read she is well received especially in Nevada.

 

[BoomerD]

Whether you agree with the law or not, I suspect Minnesota’s “Trans sanctuary law” will cost Harris/Walz votes.

Washington, Minnesota become transgender and abortion sanctuaries

Democratic governors in Washington state and Minnesota on Thursday enacted legal protections for people who travel to those states seeking reproductive and gender-affirming procedures and treatment.

www.pbs.org

 

[Pens1566]

Yes, anybody who says these guys are the same thing hasn't heard either one of them talk.

I mean they're not exact clones, but they're both fairly bland "aw shucks" kinda folksy-ish frumpy white dudes that don't immediately address a "shortcoming" of the presidential candidate other than be a male ... and he's someone that almost no one (outside of MN) had heard of until like 3 weeks ago.

I don't dislike him at all, it's just the vibe I get from him

 

[Brainonska511]

Whether you agree with the law or not, I suspect Minnesota’s “Trans sanctuary law” will cost Harris/Walz votes.

Washington, Minnesota become transgender and abortion sanctuaries

Democratic governors in Washington state and Minnesota on Thursday enacted legal protections for people who travel to those states seeking reproductive and gender-affirming procedures and treatment.

www.pbs.org

You think not being the genital police will lose votes? I think spending a lot of time thinking of people's genitals is going to cost Republicans votes. That's just a really weird obsession.

 

[K1052]

Whether you agree with the law or not, I suspect Minnesota’s “Trans sanctuary law” will cost Harris/Walz votes.

Washington, Minnesota become transgender and abortion sanctuaries

Democratic governors in Washington state and Minnesota on Thursday enacted legal protections for people who travel to those states seeking reproductive and gender-affirming procedures and treatment.

www.pbs.org

Rs ran heavily on anti-trans shit in 22 and how did that work out for them?

Right wing nuts go crazy for this stuff but average voters don't consider it important.

 

[K1052]

and he's someone that almost no one (outside of MN) had heard of until like 3 weeks ago.

This describes basically every VP pick ever. Not like I had any clue who the hell Senator Joe Biden was in 2008.

 

[ivwshane]

This pick makes total sense. People are tired of the same old politicians so why not pick an older white guy as VP? /s

Good thing people don’t vote for the VP (Vance says hi).

 

[Stokely]

Hopefully people will just take the time, look at his record, listen to him and then decide. I realize that is a lot of work for an American voter (the ones that bother to vote, meaning.) If he's considered "same old same old" after that, so be it.

We shouldn't rule out an older white guy any more than we'd rule out a younger minority woman. Not really sure what people were expecting here. Do people actually want to win the election, or win the purity internet sweepstakes?

I mean, I'm in FL and had heard of exactly zero of the VP candidates other than Mayor Pete. Not that FL is in play, but GA might be.

Pretty hard to find someone for VP--a position that likely leads nowhere fast as far as your political career-- that 1)everyone has heard of and 2) doesn't have a ton of baggage. Newsome, for example.

 

[Jaskalas]

Time for Harris to waltz right into the White House.

 

[Jaskalas]

Hopefully people will just take the time, look at his record, listen to him and then decide.

It's a VP. Aside from getting a nod for a potential run in 8 years, they don't truly mean anything.

 

[MrSquished]

Oh I agree and that's what I've maintained., has to pick a straight white male, simply because it can't be Pete. But there is still a little bit of that more naive young progressive me from over 20 years ago that still likes to dream inside.

I'm putting my money on Walz though.

From Saturday - called it. Super excited for this election, love this ticket.

For the first time in my adult life I will be buying a campaign sticker - a Harris/Walz bumper sticker - never put a politician's name on my car before.

 

[Stokely]

(EDIT: whoops, replying to Jaskalas) Well, then any angst over the pick doesn't matter anyway.

I'd point out that especially in today's world of angry gun nuts, there's no guarantee there wouldn't be either a President Vance or President Walz over the next 8 years. Hell Trump just about got wasted not long ago.

"President JD Vance" sure has a ring to it.

I do think that the most bang-for-buck from a VP (other than a catastrophe like above) is right now, stumping. So a good speaker and campaigner is what matters. My impression of Walz is that he's good in those areas, we'll see.

 

[ondma]

I am totally mystified by the picking of Walz. Absolutely and by far the worst choice of the 6. He brings nothing except some superficial good ole boy country charm. He will not win over the rural vote in the swing states. He only won election last term because of winning the urban areas by a wide margin. He is a liberal governor from an inconsequential state (electoral vote wise) that the Dems should win anyway. MN is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and Walz and the Dem legislature presided over a huge spending spree the last term. He is not the safe pick some think either. He has huge vulnerabilities from his handling of the George Floyd riots and the Feeding the Future scandal. Granted, the other candidates such as Shapiro and Kelly may have had vulnerabilities, but at least they had a large upside as well, coming from swing states that the dems need to win desperately.

 

[K1052]

Dems in array.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820844956245696904

 

[nOOky]

I am totally mystified by the picking of Walz. Absolutely and by far the worst choice of the 6. He brings nothing except some superficial good ole boy country charm. He will not win over the rural vote in the swing states. He only won election last term because of winning the urban areas by a wide margin. He is a liberal governor from an inconsequential state (electoral vote wise) that the Dems should win anyway. MN is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and Walz and the Dem legislature presided over a huge spending spree the last term. He is not the safe pick some think either. He has huge vulnerabilities from his handling of the George Floyd riots and the Feeding the Future scandal. Granted, the other candidates such as Shapiro and Kelly may have had vulnerabilities, but at least they had a large upside as well, coming from swing states that the dems need to win desperately.

He's not that well liked outside of the twin cities. I work in Minnesota and he's not that popular rurally. Minnesota is hopefully already a safe blue state in the next election I agree with your sentiments.

 

[K1052]

I am totally mystified by the picking of Walz. Absolutely and by far the worst choice of the 6. He brings nothing except some superficial good ole boy country charm. He will not win over the rural vote in the swing states. He only won election last term because of winning the urban areas by a wide margin. He is a liberal governor from an inconsequential state (electoral vote wise) that the Dems should win anyway. MN is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and Walz and the Dem legislature presided over a huge spending spree the last term. He is not the safe pick some think either. He has huge vulnerabilities from his handling of the George Floyd riots and the Feeding the Future scandal. Granted, the other candidates such as Shapiro and Kelly may have had vulnerabilities, but at least they had a large upside as well, coming from swing states that the dems need to win desperately.

Kelly or Shapiro while possibly electorally prudent have potential risks as well as rewards. The truncated vetting schedule probably worked against a riskier pick.

Trump did a risky pick and it's been about as well received as a fart in a hot car.

 

[skyking]

I know I know, there is nothing else to do right now,
BUT FFS all this hand wringing about VP! It is Kamala's to win or lose. VP is a mouse fart in a whirlwind.

 

[RalphTheCow]

Let the bitching begin! I think she probably picked him mostly for the campaigning help, but hopefully also for how they relate to each other. That’s gotta be important.

 

[MrSquished]

The fact some people think we need to appeal to the worst of the rural voters is just mind-bogglingly weird. It makes zero sense logically or strategically.

This election is going to be won by turnout, by motivating the entire Democratic base and party, and moderates and independents, and also Never Trumers and double haters. Harris/Walz is that ticket. This election is not going to be won by trying to appeal to the already far far gone rural people. No way in hell. I'm sure an east-ish coast liberal Jew lawyer would really win them over too.

Anyways, now that that has been debunked, let's move on.

 

[K1052]

The fact some people think we need to appeal to the worst of the rural voters is just mind-bogglingly weird. It makes zero sense logically or strategically.

This election is going to be won by turnout, by motivating the entire Democratic base and party, and moderates and independents, and also Never Trumers and double haters. Harris/Walz is that ticket. This election is not going to be won by trying to appeal to the already far far gone rural people. No way in hell.

Walz is somebody who can likely help run up D numbers in the cities and suburbs, where most voters exist.

 

[Stokely]

I don't get that either.

One one hand he's a "good old country boy" then he won't appeal to rural voters. From what I'm reading he flipped an R seat in MN.

What Democrat is going to appeal to rural voters? Name one anywhere in the US that wouldn't be called the antichrist by just about everyone outside of urban/suburban areas.

Anyway he's what we have, and no pick was going to please everybody. I disagree that he was the worst of the six but we'll never know how the others would have played out.