Who will Kamala pick as VP?

[evident]

I think the party wanted a middle-aged white man to shore up the middle-aged white voter base, as bad as that sounds.

Yep it's reverse DEI

 

[Meghan54]

Hell Trump just about got wasted not long ago.

You sure about that?

Trump seemed remarkably healed for having a 2cm wound to his ear…about 3/4”. Unbelievably miraculous, even.

 

[K1052]

Yep it's reverse DEI

Ticket balancing is good actually:

 

[Stokely]

You sure about that?

Trump seemed remarkably healed for having a 2cm wound to his ear…about 3/4”. Unbelievably miraculous, even.

Sure? No, but then I'm not much for conspiracy nonsense. Don't really care either way about his ear at this point. Mainly glad that it doesn't seem to have helped him much.

The point remains that we are always one shot away from the VP. We've had "real" assassinations in the past. Granted, the chance is pretty low (4 out of 45 people have been killed in office)...but now we have a fair number of people owning assault and other rifles, not to mention drones...

You vote Trump, you are also voting for President Vance. Same for President Walz or whoever is picked.

 

[Perknose]

I didn't really know squat about Waltz. A friend sent me this. That guy is REAL! Excellent choice, madame!

 

[Stokely]

I really hope he lets out a "The bums will always lose, Trump! The bums will always lose!"

 

[RalphTheCow]

I guess being the same age should help them relate. Bashear or Shapiro or Buttigeg might have been like working with her son.

 

[Pens1566]

This describes basically every VP pick ever. Not like I had any clue who the hell Senator Joe Biden was in 2008.

Biden had been a name/known entity in politics for 30+ years at that point. Same w/Cheney in '00. If you didn't know who they were, you were young or weren't paying attention.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Walz is somebody who can likely help run up D numbers in the cities and suburbs, where most voters exist.

That's why I keep saying she/they have to get to the Urban areas. They have enough people to take the state in spite of the rural areas.

 

[K1052]

Biden had been a name/known entity in politics for 30+ years at that point. Same w/Cheney in '00. If you didn't know who they were, you were young or weren't paying attention.

Most people cannot name the senators of their own state let alone Delaware.

 

[Pens1566]

The fact some people think we need to appeal to the worst of the rural voters is just mind-bogglingly weird. It makes zero sense logically or strategically.

This election is going to be won by turnout, by motivating the entire Democratic base and party, and moderates and independents, and also Never Trumers and double haters. Harris/Walz is that ticket. This election is not going to be won by trying to appeal to the already far far gone rural people. No way in hell. I'm sure an east-ish coast liberal Jew lawyer would really win them over too.

Anyways, now that that has been debunked, let's move on.

Biden won in '20 because he did better in the "T" in PA (and similar areas of MI/WI) with rural voters than Clinton did in '16. Which is the same area(s) that Harris will struggle in demographically.

 

[Pens1566]

Most people cannot name the senators of their own state let alone Delaware.

That's great, but it's not the same as saying Walz is on the same level as other picks were.

 

[K1052]

That's great, but it's not the same as saying Walz is on the same level as other picks were.

As far as voters at large outside their home states having any idea who they are he is.

 

[Pens1566]

As far as voters at large outside their home states having any idea who they are he is.

Lol, ok.

 

[Indus]

This is my prediction and I'm really not sure about Nevada..

 

[Dave_5k]

As far as voters at large outside their home states having any idea who they are he is.

Walz was only recognized by ~30% of voters before the announcement as VP, as opposed to a bit under 50% name recognition for Shapiro and Kelly. They are all not well known - but Walz was definitely less known.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/06/g-s1-15454/elections-poll-harris-running-mate

Edit: similar poll a week prior showed Beshear at almost exactly the same 30% name recognition as Walz. Buttigieg wasn't on either poll, but separate poll showed over 80% name recognition as by far the most well known of the VP candidates.

 

[K1052]

Walz was only recognized by ~30% of voters before the announcement as VP, as opposed to a bit under 50% name recognition for Shapiro and Kelly. They are all not well known - but Walz was definitely less known.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/06/g-s1-15454/elections-poll-harris-running-mate

Likely a result of leading the veepstakes for a couple weeks and being broadly talked about by the national press. Walz was something of a dark horse and less covered by the mainstream.

Edit for your edit: Buttigieg is a bit different since he was a primary candidate in 2020 and ever since has been a prominent surrogate. Nobody else on the VP shortlists was.

 

[K1052]

haha the libertarians never dissapoint

 

[Brainonska511]

haha the libertarians never dissapoint

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Yes, the party that weirdly knows the age of consent in every state and laws related to interstate travel for sex. Nothing wrong with that group.

 

[ondma]

The fact some people think we need to appeal to the worst of the rural voters is just mind-bogglingly weird. It makes zero sense logically or strategically.

This election is going to be won by turnout, by motivating the entire Democratic base and party, and moderates and independents, and also Never Trumers and double haters. Harris/Walz is that ticket. This election is not going to be won by trying to appeal to the already far far gone rural people. No way in hell. I'm sure an east-ish coast liberal Jew lawyer would really win them over too.

Anyways, now that that has been debunked, let's move on.

Dont be so smug and self assured. We will only see what is "debunked" when the election is over.

 

[ondma]

I didn't really know squat about Waltz. A friend sent me this. That guy is REAL! Excellent choice, madame!

nvm

 

[ondma]

Ticket balancing is good actually:

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Exactly. Walz doesnt balance the ticket at all except being white and male (which all the VP candidates were.) Politically he has become very liberal, and doesn't balance the ticket vs Kamala at all. Of course since his politics seem sort of "flexible" (like the other VP nominee) perhaps he will shift back to a more moderate stance.

 

[Brainonska511]

Exactly. Walz doesnt balance the ticket at all except being white and male (which all the VP candidates were.) Politically he has become very liberal, and doesn't balance the ticket vs Kamala at all. Of course since his politics seem sort of "flexible" (like the other VP nominee) perhaps he will shift back to a more moderate stance.

Yes, those awful liberal politics of (checks notes) getting kids fed with school lunches and permitting reform (ie, cutting red tape) to speed up green energy deployment.

 

[hal2kilo]

Exactly. Walz doesnt balance the ticket at all except being white and male (which all the VP candidates were.) Politically he has become very liberal, and doesn't balance the ticket vs Kamala at all. Of course since his politics seem sort of "flexible" (like the other VP nominee) perhaps he will shift back to a more moderate stance.

I so shocked with all your advanced info and all.

 

[ondma]

I so shocked with all your advanced info and all.

I live in MN. I have seen his policies first hand.