Who will Kamala pick as VP?

[pete6032]

Exactly. Walz doesnt balance the ticket at all except being white and male (which all the VP candidates were.) Politically he has become very liberal, and doesn't balance the ticket vs Kamala at all. Of course since his politics seem sort of "flexible" (like the other VP nominee) perhaps he will shift back to a more moderate stance.

What policies, if any, do you feel he has he advanced that are "very liberal" but also disagreeable to the majority of Americans? Most of the "very liberal" policies I'm seeing reflect what most Americans want - legal pot, free school lunch, right to abortion, affordable college for low income, etc.

 

[Indus]

I live in MN. I have seen his policies first hand.

Hey hey you don't even know the dems first hand!

No way Kamala and Walz make it to the election much less the convention. They'll be replaced with Michelle Obama and Gavin Newsom shortly!

 

[K1052]

Walz doesnt balance the ticket at all except being white and male (which all the VP candidates were.)

This is one component of balancing the ticket. They also have different styles and dispositions. Trump picked a far less charismatic mini-me and that has not gone well.

Politically he has become very liberal, and doesn't balance the ticket vs Kamala at all.

I think he's going to have pretty good success at defending his policy choices considering the alternative. This is definitely a strength of how he presents and communicates. He already got everybody to start calling Republicans "weird" to the extent that Trump is now posting about how he is not weird.

Of course since his politics seem sort of "flexible" (like the other VP nominee) perhaps he will shift back to a more moderate stance.

Politicians sometimes revise positions in the light of different electoral circumstances? I mean this is pretty basic.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Some various points:

What Tim Walz has said about Medicare

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Kamala Harris' running mate, has emerged as a leader on the issue of health care.

www.newsweek.com

 

[K1052]

Harkening back several weeks ago to when these same people claimed that Harris would be easy to beat by painting her as a radical liberal while the party cannon ball dived into the racism/sexism pool.

So yeah you might call me skeptical this is going to work especially when early voting kicks off in a lot of states mid-Oct.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820862627095920908

 

[biostud]

Exactly. Walz doesnt balance the ticket at all except being white and male (which all the VP candidates were.) Politically he has become very liberal, and doesn't balance the ticket vs Kamala at all. Of course since his politics seem sort of "flexible" (like the other VP nominee) perhaps he will shift back to a more moderate stance.

I thought he just needed to be the likable sidekick that could show how "weird" the Trump/Vance campaign is.

 

[MrSquished]

He is the right kind of actual Democrat who supports the policies Kamala supports - he's got midwestern dad vibe energy, not a more 'educated snooty coastal elite', or whatever bullshit is that plays so well against Dems - so he is the right messenger. Beshear was the only other one that could have pulled it off. Kamala has already been painted as a California liberal elitist from four years ago, and her poll numbers and fundraising have done nothing but change the game. The communicative vibes of Walz are very very good and again, they come from that midwestern dad vibe, he is the guy you want to have a beer with, since that matters to moderates.

He will be an effective messenger, as pointed out he already came up with the biggest messaging narrative of the campaign so far with the weird bit, and he hasn't even started yet - and he has the skills to combat attacks on him.

 

[dainthomas]

Harkening back several weeks ago to when these same people claimed that Harris would be easy to beat by painting her as a radical liberal while the party cannon ball dived into the racism/sexism pool.

So yeah you might call me skeptical this is going to work especially when early voting kicks off in a lot of states mid-Oct.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820862627095920908

All his radical liberal policies such as all the wildly popular ones that use taxpayer money to help people, instead of shoveling it into the gaping maw of corporations so they can buy back even more stock and lay off workers.

 

[K1052]

Oh no how will Walz answer for feeding school children?

Probably like this:

 

[Jaskalas]

Oh no how will Walz answer for feeding school children?

Probably like this:

Love it.

 

[HomerJS]

Harkening back several weeks ago to when these same people claimed that Harris would be easy to beat by painting her as a radical liberal while the party cannon ball dived into the racism/sexism pool.

So yeah you might call me skeptical this is going to work especially when early voting kicks off in a lot of states mid-Oct.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820862627095920908

God forbid a politician that governs based on the will of the people vs against it.

 

[manly]

I mean they're not exact clones, but they're both fairly bland "aw shucks" kinda folksy-ish frumpy white dudes that don't immediately address a "shortcoming" of the presidential candidate other than be a male ... and he's someone that almost no one (outside of MN) had heard of until like 3 weeks ago.

I don't dislike him at all, it's just the vibe I get from him

I've only heard Walz once for about 30 seconds, and that's my snap impression also. But I wouldn't mind being wrong about that.

You think not being the genital police will lose votes? I think spending a lot of time thinking of people's genitals is going to cost Republicans votes. That's just a really weird obsession.

Well, that came from someone who just a month ago wrote that he couldn't tell who was a better candidate for POTUS: DJT or Kamala Harris.

 

[dank69]

Yes, the party that weirdly knows the age of consent in every state and laws related to interstate travel for sex. Nothing wrong with that group.

Related:

 

[BoomerD]

This isn’t likely to sit well with many of the veterans.

Paid letter: The Truth About Tim Walz

Tim Walz has embellished and selectively omitted facts and circumstances of his military career for years.

www.wctrib.com

Tim Walz left National Guard battalion ‘hanging,’ ‘slithered out the door’ before Iraq deployment: vets

Veterans have accused Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz of “embellishing” his military career and abandoning his National Guard battalion, highlighting that the now-vice presidential pick for the Democrats n…

nypost.com

I don’t know how much truth there is to the story…at this point, I’m not going to side with the “OMG! He chickened out!” side of it…but it doesn’t LOOK good.

 

[Brainonska511]

This isn’t likely to sit well with many of the veterans.

Paid letter: The Truth About Tim Walz

Tim Walz has embellished and selectively omitted facts and circumstances of his military career for years.

www.wctrib.com

Tim Walz left National Guard battalion ‘hanging,’ ‘slithered out the door’ before Iraq deployment: vets

Veterans have accused Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz of “embellishing” his military career and abandoning his National Guard battalion, highlighting that the now-vice presidential pick for the Democrats n…

nypost.com

I don’t know how much truth there is to the story…at this point, I’m not going to side with the “OMG! He chickened out!” side of it…but it doesn’t LOOK good.

A paid letter and the NY Post. Sounds like pretty trashy sources.

 

[Pens1566]

This isn’t likely to sit well with many of the veterans.

Paid letter: The Truth About Tim Walz

Tim Walz has embellished and selectively omitted facts and circumstances of his military career for years.

www.wctrib.com

Tim Walz left National Guard battalion ‘hanging,’ ‘slithered out the door’ before Iraq deployment: vets

Veterans have accused Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz of “embellishing” his military career and abandoning his National Guard battalion, highlighting that the now-vice presidential pick for the Democrats n…

nypost.com

I don’t know how much truth there is to the story…at this point, I’m not going to side with the “OMG! He chickened out!” side of it…but it doesn’t LOOK good.

Swiftboat wasn't real/true either, and it landed plenty well.

 

[MrSquished]

Joe Manchin came out loving Walz and if that motherfucker is out there saying these things then the people here all in a hullabaloo need to pipe down.

 

[BoomerD]

Swiftboat wasn't real/true either, and it landed plenty well.

Exactly.

Keep in mind, the original letter came out in 2018…so while it might be a hit piece, it wasn’t aimed at the possible VP, it was aimed at the possible Minn. governor.

 

[Brainonska511]

Exactly.

Keep in mind, the original letter came out in 2018…so while it might be a hit piece, it wasn’t aimed at the possible VP, it was aimed at the possible Minn. governor.

If someone served for nearly 20 years, and they were subsequently given orders that they may deploy to Iraq in 2005, 2 years after that shit show started, I wouldn't blame someone for taking the exit. I hear Iraq was really popular in the later Bush years.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The FelonCult also pulled out an old DUI of Uncle Tim's.

 

[brycejones]

This isn’t likely to sit well with many of the veterans.

Paid letter: The Truth About Tim Walz

Tim Walz has embellished and selectively omitted facts and circumstances of his military career for years.

www.wctrib.com

Tim Walz left National Guard battalion ‘hanging,’ ‘slithered out the door’ before Iraq deployment: vets

Veterans have accused Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz of “embellishing” his military career and abandoning his National Guard battalion, highlighting that the now-vice presidential pick for the Democrats n…

nypost.com

I don’t know how much truth there is to the story…at this point, I’m not going to side with the “OMG! He chickened out!” side of it…but it doesn’t LOOK good.

Can we just remember that Trump called soldiers suckers and losers? That is the point that needs to be hammered time and time again.

 

[Moonbeam]

Not sure I can support someone who owns guns. It might mean he believes that if some suicidal self hating maniac abandoned as a child by an uncaring and profoundly ignorant world, both spiritually and psychologically not to mention scientifically, should by chance target you or a loved one as a vicarious target to blame for all their suffering and rage, that you might have some increased chance to prevent such a tragedy by practicing self defense, that inborn sense of preservation of life that has driven evolution for billions of years, by using a tool called a gun. Heaven forbid.

 

[Stokely]

Swiftboat wasn't real/true either, and it landed plenty well.

Which basically tells you that Republicans will say anything, true or false, and it might or not be believed.

As as said just above, if veterans and military vote Cadet "Heel Spurs" Trump after he's shit all over them multiple times, on camera, then they aren't going to vote for you anyway.

Hopefully the Harris campaign vetted very well, because all you can hope to do is present the truth and hope it matters. The GOP will certainly make shit up if it doesn't exist, their supporters don't care which it is.

 

[Moonbeam]

Can we just remember that Trump called soldiers suckers and losers? That is the point that needs to be hammered time and time again.

Only Democrats have flaws.

 

[Brainonska511]

Can we just remember that Trump called soldiers suckers and losers? That is the point that needs to be hammered time and time again.

It's like some people are just looking for an excuse *not* to vote for Harris/Walz