Where do we expect gas prices to be later this month, now that election is over?

[Leeea]

Vs the CURRENT Pacifica which is ABSOLUTELY based on a mini-van.
(my limo company tried these AND I rented one for several weeks)

I am a bit confused.

I thought the Pacifica was the definition of what a mini-van is supposed to be? Like that is its entire purpase of existance, to be a mini-van.

 

[DaaQ]

Here’s Why the Original Chrysler Pacifica Failed

Original 2004 Pacifica Crossover

Vs the CURRENT Pacifica which is ABSOLUTELY based on a mini-van.
(my limo company tried these AND I rented one for several weeks)

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Here’s Why the Original Chrysler Pacifica Failed

Original 2004 Pacifica Crossover

Vs the CURRENT Pacifica which is ABSOLUTELY based on a mini-van.
(my limo company tried these AND I rented one for several weeks)

So my point stands, the Pacifica CROSSOVER failed, and they re made it on the minivan platform while killing off the Town and Country and Caravan.
They appear to be making the Voyager which is Fleet only.

2024 Chrysler Pacifica | America's Most Awarded AWD Minivan

Explore the 2024 Chrysler Pacifica minivan with available all-wheel drive, 7-passenger seating, safety and security features, and buy online today.

www.chrysler.com

The original Pacifica was a crossover.

EDIT 2: https://www.caranddriver.com/chrysler/voyager

 

[Captante]

I am a bit confused.

I thought the Pacifica was the definition of what a mini-van is supposed to be? Like that is its entire purpase of existance, to be a mini-van.

The below refers to the original (failed) 2004 design that was considered a "Crossover" however IT TOO was based on a modified mini-van chassis.

"It was the sole vehicle to ride on the CS platform, itself a modified version of the RS platform that was used by the Chrysler and Dodge minivans of the 2000s. The idea of the Pacifica was to be a “sports-tourer,” putting kind of a sporty twist on the practical minivan while not necessarily being a wagon. In other words … a crossover."

 

[Captante]

The original Pacifica was a crossover.

No shit.

UNLIKE the original POS "Crossover" Pacifica (Which WAS ALSO based on a mini-van chassis... do your homework!) the later version was actually a pretty nice ride.

 

[Captante]

Anyway I'm still waiting to hear about how a raised suspension with it's resulting higher center of gravity and larger/heavier wheels/tires ON OTHERWISE IDENTICAL VEHICLES won't have a negative effect on handling.

Unless the above can be proven TRUE nothing I posted related to suspension, chassis, weight-distribution and handling was incorrect.

EDIT: And NO "handling" rough roads and potholes "better" doesn't count!

 

[DaaQ]

Anyway I'm still waiting to hear about how a raised suspension with it's resulting higher center of gravity and larger/heavier wheels/tires ON OTHERWISE IDENTICAL VEHICLES won't have a negative effect on handling.

Unless the above can be proven TRUE nothing I posted related to suspension, weight-distribution and handling was incorrect.

Thickness of sway bars man. Did you just gloss over that post before the captain obvious meme?

Plus a raised suspension or in other words wheel travel does not equate to a higher center of gravity.

Did you just not read the F1 race car post? The physics post?

And since you went with Captain Obvious, I am going to go with, Ignoring information that doesn't fit your narrative Mr. Limo Co.

EDIT: See though Now you are qualifying with OTHERWISE IDENTICL VEHICLES. Move goal posts much.

EDIT2: Appears you did not pass Technical Physics class.

 

[Captante]

EDIT: See though Now you are qualifying with OTHERWISE IDENTICL VEHICLES. Move goal posts much.

Read the thread again .... the above isn't the first time I said that. (or something close to it)



Also do your friends call you psycho?

 

[brycejones]

I've been watching as crude oil prices seem to be slowly going up. Now that Biden has pretty much exhausted the strategic oil reserve in an attempt to artifically keep the price of gasoline down until after election day, where do we see gas prices one month after election day?

Not only will the strategic oil reserve need to be refilled, (creating more demand), but opec also announced supply cuts starting this month.

State average prices vary by quite a lot:

AAA Gas Prices

So, one month from election day, where do you see gas prices being?

So far this isn't aging well nor is it factual.

 

[manly]

LMAO I don't know in what universe a Honda Fit has more cargo room than a RAV4.

 

[Captante]

I don't think technically it does it's just that you can cram more stuff inside with the seat down because of the shape of the respective cargo sections. The RAV4 has fairly large areas that count as "cargo space" but are not especially usable. (it's vastly better for passengers though)

The Fit also holds more than the "rolling shoebox" Scion xB I used to have (the 2ed larger version) even though it looks like that would be impossible and compares favorably to my daughters Outback.

 

[brycejones]

LMAO I don't know in what universe a Honda Fit has more cargo room than a RAV4.

For it's size the Fit is a packaging wonder.

 

[UNCjigga]

For it's size the Fit is a packaging wonder.

Yeah just a small anecdote. I borrowed a few heat lamps and a long table for beer pong from a neighbor once. Brought my ‘12 CRV to pick them up. Put the seats down but couldn’t fit the lamp and the table. Neighbor some how put the second heat lamp AND the table in his Fit. Yes, it stuck out the tailgate but he was able to drive it over.

 

[akugami]

There's been some argument back and forth over SUV's vs sedans. They're two different vehicle types that were originally built for different purposes. Now, the lines on vehicles have blurred a lot, but this is why the sizes are different with different handling. One is not better, or worse, than the other based on their intended use.

Suffice to say each has their pros and cons in terms of drivability, cargo space, and fuel efficiency, among other factors. What one person will need, depends on their own personal situation with the number of immediate family members being a huge factor.

For myself, I have an SUV that is well over a decade old, and I'm in need of an upgrade. Coupled with moving out of the city and into a suburban area, I'm going to need a second vehicle.

At this point, I'm eyeing the new Toyota Prius Prime 2023 which would be a daily driver, and a new larger 3 row SUV for longer drives. Any difference in better handling and drivability is trumped by the fact that on longer road trips, larger families are going to be packing more items and in need of extra seating.

And gasoline prices have dropped a bit. Yay!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

What happened is the exact opposite of the OP. You living in Bizzarro world bruh?

 

[purbeast0]

Thanks Biden.

But hey, jokes on you. It's in foreign currency.

If you want to know what it was in USD, here it is.

Once again..

THANKS BIDEN!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

@GunsMadeAmericaFree

You gonna man up and issue a Mea Culpa? Or pussy out like a beta cuck MAGA?

 

[Puffnstuff]

I admit that I was wrong in my assessment as gas prices at my local Sam's Club and Costco are $2.99 ATM.

 

[Captante]

Unfortunately prices seem to have not dropped much locally for me but that may be because believe it or not my local Mobil is always one of the cheapest in the area. (currently $3.39 gal)

 

[manly]

Unfortunately prices seem to have not dropped much locally for me but that may be because believe it or not my local Mobil is always one of the cheapest in the area. (currently $3.39 gal)

To be fair, the idiot OP was opining about retail pump prices, and not crude oil prices. Retail pump prices rise quickly with crude oil prices; but slowly fall when crude oil prices decline. U.S. oil refining is essentially an oligarchy, so they get away with this "thievery." Esp. in the West, particularly California which mandates a specific summer blend that is difficult to source from outside of the state.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

To be fair, the idiot OP was opining about retail pump prices, and not crude oil prices.

He writes about crude and at the pump in his dumbass fear mongering OP. His entire hurr durr hypothesis is quoted below.

"I've been watching as crude oil prices seem to be slowly going up. Now that Biden has pretty much exhausted the strategic oil reserve in an attempt to artifically keep the price of gasoline down until after election day, where do we see gas prices one month after election day?

Not only will the strategic oil reserve need to be refilled, (creating more demand), but opec also announced supply cuts starting this month."

Prices were not being suppressed for political advantage, they were being inflated. Everything played out the opposite of what he insinuated was happening. Now we find out if he has any integrity, or is just another shameless troll parroting party propaganda.

 

[manly]

He writes about crude and at the pump in his dumbass fear mongering OP. His entire hurr durr hypothesis is quoted below.

"I've been watching as crude oil prices seem to be slowly going up. Now that Biden has pretty much exhausted the strategic oil reserve in an attempt to artifically keep the price of gasoline down until after election day, where do we see gas prices one month after election day?

Not only will the strategic oil reserve need to be refilled, (creating more demand), but opec also announced supply cuts starting this month."

Prices were not being suppressed for political advantage, they were being inflated. Everything played out the opposite of what he insinuated was happening. Now we find out if he has any integrity, or is just another shameless troll parroting party propaganda.

Fair enough, I wasn't going back to read his drivel and just relied on the thread title. Nonetheless, the OP has enough prior posting history that we already know what he is.

 

[K1052]

He writes about crude and at the pump in his dumbass fear mongering OP. His entire hurr durr hypothesis is quoted below.

"I've been watching as crude oil prices seem to be slowly going up. Now that Biden has pretty much exhausted the strategic oil reserve in an attempt to artifically keep the price of gasoline down until after election day, where do we see gas prices one month after election day?

Not only will the strategic oil reserve need to be refilled, (creating more demand), but opec also announced supply cuts starting this month."

Prices were not being suppressed for political advantage, they were being inflated. Everything played out the opposite of what he insinuated was happening. Now we find out if he has any integrity, or is just another shameless troll parroting party propaganda.

SPR is still over half full and Biden is going to have turned a profit when the DOE starts issuing contracts to refill in the high 60s. OPEC+ mulling supply goose because the Saudis need help again and need to unfuck their relations with the admin.

Sort of impressive he got everything wrong.

 

[vi edit]

I gotta admit, I always thought of the strategic reserves as more of a doomsday tool...IE... what we use to supply our military and infrastructure if shit really went sideways.

I never thought of it as a way of manipulating oil markets. That's pretty impressive honestly.

 

[Brainonska511]

I gotta admit, I always thought of the strategic reserves as more of a doomsday tool...IE... what we use to supply our military and infrastructure if shit really went sideways.

I never thought of it as a way of manipulating oil markets. That's pretty impressive honestly.

It's original intent was to provide a domestic backstop to protect ourselves against other countries that wanted to use oil supply as an economic weapon.

 

[K1052]

The US really should have a decent size refined products reserve also since hurricanes and other increasingly extreme weather pose a substantial threat to a large chunk of the nation's refinery capacity. It could also be used to moderate other weather, trade, or economic supply disruptions preventing price spikes. It's been proposed a few times but I don't think the government ever did anything with it.