When Someone Flashes Hi-Beams on Highway...

[Sphexi]

Depends. If the limit is like, 80 (kph up here), and I'm doing let's say, 90-95 and am passing traffic in the left lane, and some idiot comes up behind me easily doing 110+, then no, I won't move for him at all. He'll get an eye full of middle finger and can wait his turn.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: jandrews

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: FeuerFrei
The more aggressive you are in approaching my car from behind the less likely I am to move aside.
If you gradually approach without flashing your lights, then I'm likely to either speed up or move aside on general principles. I realize unimpeded traffic flow is a plus.

Aggression just pisses me off and then I'll do whatever I can to keep you from passing me. So don't appear too eager to pass or it'll work against you.

Do you realize that you're acting no different than the guy behind you? By not moving over, you're trying to exhibit your dominance over him by controlling the lane. You are both being aggressive It doesn't matter who is right, or who "started" it. You're both trying to be alpha males. But in this case, the guy behind you IS right because you're supposed to move right, ya jerk!

Fact #1: Europeans are better trained drivers than Americans.
Fact #2: Europeans commonly flash their brights at people to get out of the left lane. You should feel ashamed that someone had to remind you to get out of the passing lane rather than doing it yourself.

I would be interested in finding out where you learned the information regarding Europeans being better trained. Anyway, the united states has hundreds of thousands of miles of roadway more than the euros not to mention the average daily commute for each american is much larger than any European due to the expanse of our country and road system. This equates to much longer times on the road.

Also, just because euros do something doesnt mean americans do. I would find it extremely rude exteremely!!! rude if someone was flashing their brights behind me. I wouldnt even know what they wanted, I would assume there was an accident ahead or maybe they were trying to warn someone about something. In Minnesota, people rarely honk their horns and they never flash their lights and traffic is more or less polite but of course there are the standard amount of people who try to abuse traffic and cut in line. I moved to Florida several years ago and I was astonished by how rude the drivers were, people honked their horns at every little thing and I am sure light flashing was common practice. In my opinion there is a certain level of courtesy that should be given in the road and speeding on someones butt and flashing your brights on and off is not one of those courteous maneuvers.

Getting a drivers license in the US is so easy they could start handing them out in the Corn Flakes packages instead.
I'm from Europe and let me tell you... getting a license is way harder and the tests are way tougher. it's a fact, just deal with it.

 

[LordMorpheus]

If someone wants to pass me I'll let them - no point in getting pissed and creating a dangerous situation just because some guy is being a dick.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Slow vehicles to travel on right side

147. (1) Any vehicle travelling upon a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at that time and place shall, where practicable, be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 147 (1).

Exception

(2) Subsection (1) does not apply to a driver of a,

(a) vehicle while overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction;

(b) vehicle while preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway; or

(c) road service vehicle. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 147 (2).

 

[Legendary]

I'm a speeder, and a highbeamer to boot. I just drove 3200 miles cross country, highbeaming the whole way (no tickets). I would say 95% of people get out of the way (when safe).
If I highbeam you, I will pass you eventually. If you make it more difficult for me I will give you the finger when I am in front of you and drive on. It's just that simple. The people you drive with on highways aren't 'real' in the sense that they have no identity thus no reason to take it personally, but they should know they've inconvenienced me.

 

[AAjax]

The left lane (fast lane) is a passing lane, I don't even stay in it when going over the speed limit unless the 3rd lane is going way too slow. I will always move out of the way of faster traffic regardless of if they flash or not.

But of course 85% of the rest of the drivers in LA couldn't grasp this if their life depended on it.

If you ride the fast lane doing the speed limit when faster traffic is in the area out of principle, you are by definition an A$$hat of biblical proportions.


Jax

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: AAjax
The left lane (fast lane) is a passing lane, I don't even stay in it when going over the speed limit unless the 3rd lane is going way too slow. I will always move out of the way of faster traffic regardless of if they flash or not.

But of course 85% of the rest of the drivers in LA couldn't grasp this if their life depended on it.

If you ride the fast lane doing the speed limit when faster traffic is in the area out of principle, you are by definition an A$$hat of biblical proportions.


Jax

i've come across the california traffic code somewhere. i must say it's not very strict, and as i recall, doesn't even have hard provisions for slow traffic keeping right, just to 'use the lane with the smoothest flow' or something like that.

 

[Judgement]

Some idiots don't know to drive right and pass left. I can't stand people who do less than 10mph over the speed limit in the far left lane. Some of the posted speed limits around here on awful but no one follows them.
I-95 has a posted speed limit of 45mph (it's an 8 lane interstate). Usually the far right lane is doing 60 and left lane 80.

I can just see some asshole cop giving some insane speeding ticket to someone doing 80 for reckless driving because they're 35mph over the post speed limit.

BTW the posted speed limit used to be 65, they dropped it to 45 while doing construction in the area. They finished construction months ago and left the posted speeds

For what it's worth I haven't seen anyone pulled over in any 45mph stretch since the speed was reduced, I guess the cops realize how retarded it truly is.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: yllus
People in the leftmost lane who don't move over for faster traffic are fucktards. Speed up or get out of the way.

Slow down, or YOU pass me if YOU are in a hurry. I am content just driving to work.

The second lane (not including the fast lane) is perfect for that. Just stay there. Most freeways are 4 lanes + carpool, or even bigger (well, in my case anyways). Stay out of the fast lane. 65 MPH is an unreasonable speed to be in the fast lane with. If you are going slower than 80, or if you are on your cellphone or playing with the stereo, MOVE!

 

[RiDE]

I don't wait for the hi beams. If I see somebody hauling ass behind me, I GTFO of the lane. I don't want trouble and I hope somebody does the same for me when I'm the one hauling ass.

 

[Argo]

If I'm in left lane and somebody is coming up behind me, I usually move over before they have to flash their high beams.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Analog
As far as those laws that say you must stay to the right, fine, but don't tell me that I need to follow the law when you're clearly violating the law by doing 15 miles over the limit, that's also just plain idiocracy.

Umm, yes, you DO, that's why it's the law. If I blow through a yield sign and kill some guy on a go kart, I don't get a free pass because the go kart isn't street legal.

Don't try to play holier-than-thou when you're as much of a criminal as the speeders. The keep-right law does NOT mention speeds.

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Flashing your beams at someone is akin to flipping them off. If someone does it to me I return the favor by slowing the hell down.

So how exactly do you expect drivers to communicate if you interpret everything they do to get your attention as flipping you off? Clearly THEY don't understand it as flipping you off. Has anyone ever told you that you have a chip on your shoulder? Are you some gangbanger who likes to get in everyone's face over some perceived "disrespect"?

I like letting drivers pass me, because (a)less likely they'll get pissed and shoot me, and (b)less likely the cops will pull me over at any speed.

 

[Xylitol]

Usually don't you flash your high-beams to let someone know that there's something wrong with their car? (Headlights off, gas tank closer out, trunk open, etc.)
They're not gonna notice that they're being told to move over just because you're speeding

 

[dlock13]

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life

Originally posted by: Deeko
People who create a "wall" of traffic, going the same speed as the lane to their right, are the bane of my existance.

I agree. And its quite common here in PA. I cant even doing 70 in a 65 in the left lane half the time cause cars are cruising along in it going 65. Usually the right lane is going like 55-60 which baffles my mind.

I hate the traffic here in PA. I have a 20 minute commute to my college, and there are always the typical slow people. When you try to speed up past them, they'll move in front of you so they can pass this other car but they end up going EXTREMELY slow.

Seriously, 55 speed limit and everyone does 50. :|
WTFFFFFFF!

Originally posted by: Jumpem
No. If I am going at least the speed limit I stay in the left lane. If people don't like it they can go go around me. No reason for me to move because they are the ones in a hurry.

And if someone flashes me, waves their hands, or tailgates I will slow down to exactly the speed limit.

I do that too. I usually go 5-15 mph over the speed limit, and when someone comes FLYING up behind me and gets on my bumper, I let go of the gas and slow down to the speed limit.
There is no reason to tailgate me.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: Judgement
Some idiots don't know to drive right and pass left. I can't stand people who do less than 10mph over the speed limit in the far left lane. Some of the posted speed limits around here on awful but no one follows them.
I-95 has a posted speed limit of 45mph (it's an 8 lane interstate). Usually the far right lane is doing 60 and left lane 80.

I can just see some asshole cop giving some insane speeding ticket to someone doing 80 for reckless driving because they're 35mph over the post speed limit.

BTW the posted speed limit used to be 65, they dropped it to 45 while doing construction in the area. They finished construction months ago and left the posted speeds

For what it's worth I haven't seen anyone pulled over in any 45mph stretch since the speed was reduced, I guess the cops realize how retarded it truly is.

i95.. is that in florida?

yea anybody who blocks traffic when they could just get over is a douchebag

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: dmw16
Now, I know someone is going to say "you shouldn't be speeding", let me just say that I am freely admitting I speed. I do so safely. I don't weave, I don't tailgate, I try to avoid passing on the right, I always signal, etc.

Secondly, on the speeding thing, the left lane is not for someone going 5mph over the speed limit. You are only supposed to use that lane to pass (which I do, as I try to stay in the middle left lane, but given the number of cars I am typically passing, so I end up in the left a lot).
So the guy in front of me is obstructing a pass and guilty of a moving violation same as me. (Not that two wrongs make a right).

So I am just curious. If you are going a few miles over the limit in the left lane of a 3 or 4 lane highway (in each direction) and someone approaches you from behind and/or flashes their hi-beams, do you move? If not, why?

1. i'll answer the first two bolded statements here. you don't weave yet you find yourself moving from the middle-left to the left lane quite often. that could be weaving.

2. third bolded statement...i'm a speeder and let me tell you you need a good smacking. who the f((ck told you it's a moving violation if someone is going 71 in a 65 zone and they won't move to let you go 80? we don't live in europe. it's LEGAL to pass someone on the right. if it's not possible, the person ahead of you isn't doing anything illegal by driving the speed limit.

3. last bolded statement...as i said, i'm a speeder. i usually stay in the second lane from the left if it isn't too congested. if i'm in the left lane and someone comes behind me, i'll speed up, too. if i don't feel like speeding, i'll move to the right and let them pass. i generally know what's going on behind me so if i see someone weaving crazily and they come up behind me, tailgating me with like 2 feet distance between us with high beams on, drifting in his lane trying to find a way to pass me, i might speed up 5 mph. if it doesn't stop, i'll just drop to 10 below the speed limit. then i'll slow down so the guy thinks he can pass me on the right. when he changes lane and gases it, i gas it to so he can't pass me, then pace with the car to my right so the guy that was originally behind me can't pass me. then i'll slow down some more once he gets behind me, again. am i a dick for doing it? no. speeding is generally safe. when i see someone not being safe, i find it as an opportunity to piss someone off with reason. if his wife was in the back having a baby, he'd use the emergency lane to pass me.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: dmw16
Now, I know someone is going to say "you shouldn't be speeding", let me just say that I am freely admitting I speed. I do so safely. I don't weave, I don't tailgate, I try to avoid passing on the right, I always signal, etc.

Secondly, on the speeding thing, the left lane is not for someone going 5mph over the speed limit. You are only supposed to use that lane to pass (which I do, as I try to stay in the middle left lane, but given the number of cars I am typically passing, so I end up in the left a lot).
So the guy in front of me is obstructing a pass and guilty of a moving violation same as me. (Not that two wrongs make a right).

So I am just curious. If you are going a few miles over the limit in the left lane of a 3 or 4 lane highway (in each direction) and someone approaches you from behind and/or flashes their hi-beams, do you move? If not, why?

1. i'll answer the first two bolded statements here. you don't weave yet you find yourself moving from the middle-left to the left lane quite often. that could be weaving.

2. third bolded statement...i'm a speeder and let me tell you you need a good smacking. who the f((ck told you it's a moving violation if someone is going 71 in a 65 zone and they won't move to let you go 80? we don't live in europe. it's LEGAL to pass someone on the right. if it's not possible, the person ahead of you isn't doing anything illegal by driving the speed limit.

3. last bolded statement...as i said, i'm a speeder. i usually stay in the second lane from the left if it isn't too congested. if i'm in the left lane and someone comes behind me, i'll speed up, too. if i don't feel like speeding, i'll move to the right and let them pass. i generally know what's going on behind me so if i see someone weaving crazily and they come up behind me, tailgating me with like 2 feet distance between us with high beams on, drifting in his lane trying to find a way to pass me, i might speed up 5 mph. if it doesn't stop, i'll just drop to 10 below the speed limit. then i'll slow down so the guy thinks he can pass me on the right. when he changes lane and gases it, i gas it to so he can't pass me, then pace with the car to my right so the guy that was originally behind me can't pass me. then i'll slow down some more once he gets behind me, again. am i a dick for doing it? no. speeding is generally safe. when i see someone not being safe, i find it as an opportunity to piss someone off with reason. if his wife was in the back having a baby, he'd use the emergency lane to pass me.

= douchbag. did you just say "i gas it to so he can't pass me" ---- you did.

you never know the circumstances of other drivers. an open lane could be the only thing from getting them to the ER in time.

just get over. please. ok? oh and "emergency lane?" if someone comes up to you like there is an emergency lane, but you are in it, get over! there isnt always an emergency lane..

case in point, my grandma was dying.. i woke up to a phone call from my grandpa saying "son you like about 15 minutes.." I was 30 minutes away. I made it there in 15. I had my hazards and lights flashing. If a cop was to try and pull me over, I would have called 911 and reported my situation and told them to ticket me at the hospital.

 

[Penth]

I'm usually in the left lane passing people but I always get to the right when someone is going faster than me. I'll usually get right back in and follow them going close to the speed they are going. I figure there's a better shot a cop will get them if they're going faster and I get to go faster as well! Win Win!

 

[timosyy]

The only time I've ever flashed my highbeams were to let cars know they could merge in front of me/I was letting them pass.

Anyways, as far as the OP, I'm a pretty attentive driver. If I'm in the left lane and I see someone coming up behind me much faster than I'm going, I'll move over and just merge back after they pass. If I'm already in the right lane though, I'm obviously not moving left for them, they can go around.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: timosyy
The only time I've ever flashed my highbeams were to let cars know they could merge in front of me/I was letting them pass.

Anyways, as far as the OP, I'm a pretty attentive driver. If I'm in the left lane and I see someone coming up behind me much faster than I'm going, I'll move over and just merge back after they pass. If I'm already in the right lane though, I'm obviously not moving left for them, they can go around.

That is what I do. Unless of course I'm passing some one else or part of a line of cars passing someone else and the person tailgates. In that case I will slow down and take my sweet time passing the other car.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: dlock13

Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life

Originally posted by: Deeko
People who create a "wall" of traffic, going the same speed as the lane to their right, are the bane of my existance.

I agree. And its quite common here in PA. I cant even doing 70 in a 65 in the left lane half the time cause cars are cruising along in it going 65. Usually the right lane is going like 55-60 which baffles my mind.

I hate the traffic here in PA. I have a 20 minute commute to my college, and there are always the typical slow people. When you try to speed up past them, they'll move in front of you so they can pass this other car but they end up going EXTREMELY slow.

Seriously, 55 speed limit and everyone does 50. :|
WTFFFFFFF!

Originally posted by: Jumpem
No. If I am going at least the speed limit I stay in the left lane. If people don't like it they can go go around me. No reason for me to move because they are the ones in a hurry.

And if someone flashes me, waves their hands, or tailgates I will slow down to exactly the speed limit.

I do that too. I usually go 5-15 mph over the speed limit, and when someone comes FLYING up behind me and gets on my bumper, I let go of the gas and slow down to the speed limit.
There is no reason to tailgate me.

are you in the right lane? if not, more power to them.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: Judgement
Some idiots don't know to drive right and pass left. I can't stand people who do less than 10mph over the speed limit in the far left lane. Some of the posted speed limits around here on awful but no one follows them.
I-95 has a posted speed limit of 45mph (it's an 8 lane interstate). Usually the far right lane is doing 60 and left lane 80.

I can just see some asshole cop giving some insane speeding ticket to someone doing 80 for reckless driving because they're 35mph over the post speed limit.

BTW the posted speed limit used to be 65, they dropped it to 45 while doing construction in the area. They finished construction months ago and left the posted speeds

For what it's worth I haven't seen anyone pulled over in any 45mph stretch since the speed was reduced, I guess the cops realize how retarded it truly is.

i95.. is that in florida?

yea anybody who blocks traffic when they could just get over is a douchebag

Miami FL to Woodstock NB

 

[0roo0roo]

road boulders is what they are called.
passing lane is for fast driving, go slow down people in the slow lane all you want.
i've high beamed some people for not having their headlights on. generally they are oblivious until several other people take a swipe at them as well

 

[JohnCU]

Someone find Jumpem's plate and post here

Where's M4H?

"Right lane is for saving gas; left lane is for hauling ass."

 

[txrandom]

If you flash your hi-beams at me, I'll intentionally slow down just to piss you off.